Retaliation Posted - Tech9 - Bladerunner - Simone Daily

calebh124 · Post by **calebh124** » Wed May 10, 2006 2:06 am

Well considering I've already filled out the paper and was planning on doing both anyway he'll have a pretty long paper trail if me and everyone files one. I've filled it out and I'mma gonna get it to the police in da morning

( 832 ) · Post by **MagickalMemories** » Wed May 10, 2006 2:27 am

Adda-boy!

Err... I mean... Young Man!

Eric

Cheated · Post by **Cheated** » Wed May 10, 2006 4:15 am

Hey Caleb, glad to hear you got your package. I still haven't heard anything from anyone else however. Like I've said before, I'll be checking in. Unfortunately I'm dealing with a family chrisis right now so it may not be as often as usual. However, if anyone needs any additional information, please feel free to PM, or post me. Thanks.

Xtapl · Post by **Xtapl** » Wed May 10, 2006 5:00 am

I still haven't received anything. If Max is to be believed (which at this point is a stretch), my package was mailed Thursday. If it came by slow boat from California, it could take up to seven days to get here. I'm giving it until Thursday before I lift his stay of execution and drop the hammer.

DMan · Post by **DMan** » Wed May 10, 2006 6:35 am

I have to agree with Erik/MM here. Drop all hammers RIGHT NOW! I've been defrauded once by Gester/Steve Jones (who is in Canada which makes things a helluva lot harder to get done) and almost by this POS. Don't wait any longer, drop the bombs now, show this community that it is not OK to do or even attempt this type of crap!

D

insidius · Post by **insidius** » Wed May 10, 2006 4:59 pm

I seriously don't know why you people are waiting.

Haven't you waited long enough?

Whatever, it's not my stuff; do what you want. Guess the best way to learn is through experience.

Xtapl · Post by **Xtapl** » Wed May 10, 2006 5:17 pm

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm waiting because honestly, it's only been three weeks, and that's not really enough passage of time to assume fraud. Especially not when I have received word that the merchandise has been mailed.

Basically, I don't want to file a false report. If I call the cops today, and my package shows up tomorrow, then I look like a jackass. Even when dealing with "normal" companies, you have to allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.

kensig · Post by **kensig** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:31 pm

I'm curious now.

About a month ago I bought some stuff from Simone Daily, he even gave me a confirmation number a week later.

The package never showed, and the confirmation number just said that it was received by the Rancho Cucamonga post office.

During this entire time I exchanged a couple emails with the guy and I filled a complaint with the post office (since the tracking number said they still had received it, and pretty much lost it). He said he did the same thing, then I never heard from him again.

Course, since the tracking number put the box with the post office I didn't suspect anything until I saw this thread, what do you guys think?

Cheated · Post by **Cheated** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:26 pm

I'm still checking in...if you don't end up getting anything, the admins have his numbers, et cetera...

npd_bigdaddy · Post by **npd_bigdaddy** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:59 pm

See, the bad thing is even with a conformation number, that can be "faked". Heck I can mail a simple 1st class envelope to myself and give you the conformation number that it was shipped, and it will state on the website "accepted by blah blah blah post office" and you will think that everything is golden and ship your package (assuming a simo trade)

Then when it comes back to me, I can say, "Oh man, this was returned to sender, I'll get this back out to you" and never send anything to you.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's what this guy was doing.

That's why I put more faith in the actual USPS receipt than anything else. That states that at least something was shipped directly to my zip code, and not just an arbitrary conf #

That's another reason why I always keep my receipts and offer to photograph a copy and send it to the person for verificiation along with any delivery conf.

Thankfully though I don't have to worry about it much because I've been here long enough that my rating and tenure speaks for itself, but that's something that I would suggest people might want to start doing for new traders

Erik

kensig · Post by **kensig** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:39 pm

Didn't realize something like that was possible, since when you fill out confirmation you put in the to and from address on the form. But then again, he might have put one thing on the form and another thing on the box right?

But in my case, the confirmation # never recorded a delivery and when I asked them they claimed responsiblity (well my local branch, claimed that Simon's local branch screwed up anyways). You think he got lucky with this one? He didn't duck my emails until after the post office said to fill out a complaint, so he certainly played the part of concerned trader.

Mospaeda · Post by **Mospaeda** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:43 pm

Anyone who spells their name "Maxx" is bound to be a chode. Red flag right there

Cheated · Post by **Cheated** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:16 pm

yes, his name is Maxx...not Simone. I am Simone and if you've read the past postings, it's not me who's doing the trading or whatever. He is male, I am female. My name is not Simon, Simone Dailey, Daily, etc. It explains it all in this topic. If you run into any problems, please contact the admins......Will this ever end!!!! I apologize for my frustration but SHEESH!!!

( 832 ) · Post by **MagickalMemories** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:07 pm

See, the bad thing is even with a conformation number, that can be "faked". Heck I can mail a simple 1st class envelope to myself and give you the conformation number that it was shipped, and it will state on the website "accepted by blah blah blah post office" and you will think that everything is golden and ship your package (assuming a simo trade)

Then when it comes back to me, I can say, "Oh man, this was returned to sender, I'll get this back out to you" and never send anything to you.

Well, you can't do it like that.
I've tried to get DC on an envelope once. they will only put them on packages.
I sent an eBay payment in once and I was a little leery of the guy. They wouldn't do it.
Now, I'm not saying that what you are saying can't happen... just not on an envelope.
Also, once that DC arrives, it will show that it was sent to him.
IIRC, a "returned" package won't show it as delivered but as returned. Also... if you say you send me a package & it was returned to you after 2 or 3 days... and we live a state or more apart... I know you're lying. it takes longer than that for the package to arrive at the wrong Post Office, be checked in, then returned.

That's why I put more faith in the actual USPS receipt than anything else. That states that at least something was shipped directly to my zip code, and not just an arbitrary conf #

I do agree with this.

That's another reason why I always keep my receipts and offer to photograph a copy and send it to the person for verificiation along with any delivery conf.

Precisely.

Also...for the OP... You don't have toput ANYTHING on the DC forms... I usually put what I shipped... or the eBay or BTown trade name... it's easier for me.

Eric

npd_bigdaddy · Post by **npd_bigdaddy** » Fri May 19, 2006 1:46 am

MagickalMemories wrote:
See, the bad thing is even with a conformation number, that can be "faked". Heck I can mail a simple 1st class envelope to myself and give you the conformation number that it was shipped, and it will state on the website "accepted by blah blah blah post office" and you will think that everything is golden and ship your package (assuming a simo trade)

Then when it comes back to me, I can say, "Oh man, this was returned to sender, I'll get this back out to you" and never send anything to you.
Well, you can't do it like that.
I've tried to get DC on an envelope once. they will only put them on packages.
I sent an eBay payment in once and I was a little leery of the guy. They wouldn't do it.
Now, I'm not saying that what you are saying can't happen... just not on an envelope.
Also, once that DC arrives, it will show that it was sent to him.
IIRC, a "returned" package won't show it as delivered but as returned. Also... if you say you send me a package & it was returned to you after 2 or 3 days... and we live a state or more apart... I know you're lying. it takes longer than that for the package to arrive at the wrong Post Office, be checked in, then returned.

That's why I put more faith in the actual USPS receipt than anything else. That states that at least something was shipped directly to my zip code, and not just an arbitrary conf #

I do agree with this.

That's another reason why I always keep my receipts and offer to photograph a copy and send it to the person for verificiation along with any delivery conf.
Precisely.

Also...for the OP... You don't have toput ANYTHING on the DC forms... I usually put what I shipped... or the eBay or BTown trade name... it's easier for me.

Eric

Well I'm not saying that it's super easy, but someone with a little inginuity can pull it off, especially on an unsuspecting or trustworthy person

That's why I always say, keep those receipts until you hear from the guy that he got your stuff, THEN go ahead and toss them out.

And you know what else sucks, and I've still not been able to figure this one out, is that you can't put tracking on international shipping. Atleast not from our USA end. That to me is ridiculous. Heck the frigging customs form has it's own unique number, but you're telling me we can't track that??

That's insane.........

Erik

Bartertown.com

Retaliation Posted - Tech9 - Bladerunner - Simone Daily

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