What do I do? Horrible trader ivan_the_raider

[SoldierofGod22]

Hello, I am new here and am completing several trades and have already completed some major ones such as a 310 dollar one with minigamer1953, anyway one of my first trades is coming out bad ive email him repeatedly and he replied at first but now isnt anymore.. The deal was only about 40 dollars worth I was trading him a imperial guard blisters of a standard bearer, 6 ratlings, and 2 tanith ghosts and i think one other lil metal figure for his basilisk new in box. I shipped out my items and thats where it stands.....
His name on here was (it says his account is terminated) ivan_the_raider
his email is ivan_the_raider@hotmail.com, and his name is Steve Jones and his addy is 215 First Ave. St. Thomas, ON. N5R 4P6, Canada.
So Please help me out and let me know what I should do to possibly gte him in trouble and get my compensation, models back, or the basilisk.
Thank You! -Nick

[orcdom]

i think your supposed to post all the email or pms or something here, sort of a disclamer for b town. also how much time has passed?

and look for Insidious, he is a mod here and has a couple links in his sig that is for internet fraud.
Steve

[Gyulkus chaos saurus]

this guy is a noted bad trader viewtopic.php?t=12726

[Linrandir]

Yeah, he claims he's reformed but clearly we see he's not.

This is why we have the reference systems we have, so that people can check out their trade partners before a trade takes place. Not to be rude, but a little bit of common sense goes a long way - his account was terminated. Why? PM a mod and find out.

Best of luck in getting the situation resolved....and you have 24 hours to follow the rules of posting a Bad trader report.

[SoldierofGod22]

Ok yes it was one of my first trades and yea I was kinda dumb about it and didn't look through the bad trader report, lil too trusting I guess. Anyway I do not have the PMS but I did copy and paste every email, Am I doing it right? I guess if I get screwed out of this deal it isnt too horrible since that stuff wasnt crazy important or expensive but it still pisses me off. I dunno I hope it was a post office problem but judging by his history Im not banking on that. So over a month has gone by I don't think customs would take that long would it? could it? Thanks everyone =) -Nick


From: "stevev jones" <ivan_the_raider@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: xxoutlaw2022xx@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: warhammer vehicles
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:51:16 -0500

not to be rude or anythinhg, but if you report it, they will check with
my
post office, and it will show that no mail has come from your address,
so it
seems we are both in a perdicament

Steve


>From: Nicholas Bedore <xxoutlaw2022xx@yahoo.com>
>To: stevev jones <ivan_the_raider@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: warhammer vehicles
>Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:05:06 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hey Steve, I havent heard form you in close to two weeks and have yet
to
>get the basiliskafter over a month now, if i do not hear from you or
get
>the model in the next couple days. Im going to be forced to report you
both
>to bartertown and to the U.S. Postal Inspection Servive Mail Fraud
Center.
>Please get back to me as this will be a huge hassle for both of us and
I
>would prefer not to go this route. -Nick
>
>stevev jones <ivan_the_raider@hotmail.com> wrote: sorry man, still
don't
>have them, you got urs yet?
>
>Steve
>
>
> >From: Nicholas Bedore
> >To: stevev jones
> >Subject: RE: warhammer vehicles
> >Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 06:02:30 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Hey Steve! Just curious if you got the models yet, maybe not since
ur up
>in
> >canada, hope so thou! Iv eyet to get the basilisk but expect i shuld
be
> >getting it soon! yay! an dplease when you get the models can you
list me
>as
> >a good trader and ill do the same for you ? I wanna get my points up
here
> >so ppl trust me more! hehe
> >
> >stevev jones wrote:
> >Steve Jones
> >215 First Ave.
> >St.Thomas, ON
> >N5R 4P6
> >Canada
> >
> >the basalisk is going out today (Saterday)
> >
> > >From: Nicholas Bedore
> > >To: stevev jones
> > >Subject: RE: warhammer vehicles
> > >Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:36:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Ok so now we just send the stuff to each other? Well once you send
me
> >your
> > >address I'll send them out asap, probably on saturday, cant wait
to get
> >the
> > >basilisk ! my addy is :
> > >Nick Bedore
> > >27413 Catala Ave.
> > >Saugus, CA, 91350
> > >
> > >stevev jones wrote:
> > >yes, i have all the pirece, and sure i will trade for that.
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Nicholas Bedore
> > > >To: stevev jones
> > > >Subject: RE: warhammer vehicles
> > > >Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Hello, Well I do need tanks but ill pass up the russ as it most
>likely
> > >wont
> > > >match my other tanks! but the basilisk unpainted and put
together
> >right?
> > >is
> > > >it complete? will u be giving me the xtra pieces it usually
comes
>with?
> > >If
> > > >so Ill trade ya the blisters. They are actually opened but in
perfect
> > > >condition, unpainted, and just untouched they just sat in a
tackle
>box.
> >I
> > > >would be giving you 2 Tanith Ghosts, 5 Ratlings and a Standard
Bearer
> >and
> > > >ill give you the 8 bases with them. working it out its all worth
the
> >same
> > > >pretty much. Let me know thank you -Nick
> > > >
> > > >stevev jones wrote:am am interested in the
> > > >ratlings, the tanith goasts, and mabye a standard
> > > >bearer. How many ratlings are we talking about. The russ is pro
> >painted,
> > > >and i will only sell if the offer is good, but the basalisk, i
will
>let
> > >go
> > > >for almost any offer
> > > >
> > > >Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Nicholas Bedore
> > > > >To: ivan_the_raider@hotmail.com
> > > > >Subject: warhammer vehicles
> > > > >Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:53:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >Hello I saw you had a basilisk and leman russ on barter town,
would
> >you
> > > > >sell them? how much? I have imperial guard and various blister
>stuff,
> > > > >nothing major thou as im still currently building it, i have
some
> >medic
> > > >and
> > > > >standard blisters, ratlings, catachan officers, gaunt, tanith
>ghosts,
> > > >going
> > > > >to have a vindicare assasin coming in mail, and various other
bits
> >and
> > > >any
> > > > >other various other things you may need! let me know, thank
you!
> >-Nick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >---------------------------------
> > > > > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
> > > >
> > >
>_________________________________________________________________
> > > >MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of
> >scheduling
> > > >get-togethers.
> > >
> >
>
>http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&pag ... S_Taglines
> > > >Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and
get the
> > > >first two months FREE*.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >---------------------------------
> > > > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
> > >
> > >_________________________________________________________________
> > >Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft®
>SmartScreen
> > >Technology.
> >
>
>http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&pag ... S_Taglines
> > >Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get
the
> > >first two months FREE*.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >---------------------------------
> > > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
> >

[Linrandir]

No, you're good insofar as proof goes. Interesting new tactic he's using, it seems. I'd go ahead and report him anyway if you have proof of mailing your side of the trade to him.

On the other hand, if you don't have that proof (which to Canada is a little harder since you can't use USPS delivery confirmation) your case may be a little harder to prove.

[Andrewj67]

Hey guys,
Linrandir acutally you can track your package as it heads through the states, it costs like a buck fifty more and although it doesn't have it's whereabouts constandtly noted, you can log on to candapost.ca (or something like that) and have them email you (and him) when he signs for it (ALWAYS MAKE SURE SOMEONE SIGNS FOR YOUR STUFF). If someone signs for it they can't claim "sorry, didn't get it yet." Also, if you add in his email address to be notified when the parcel is signed for, he'll know that you know he signed for it, and will make him less likely to screw you.
Anyway, that's my two cents,
Cheers,
Andrew

[SoldierofGod22]

Hey all thanks for the tips im definatly gonna do the delivery confirmation thingy. Seems that another bartertown memeber taggered recieved a combination of my some of my models and a couple others in a box with no return address however my name was inside the box! way crazy! and the guy that got the package was ripped off by the same guy that i was in the past! hmmmm coincedence? I dunno but im happy to be getting compensated about equally for the ordeal! -Nick =)

[narceron]

How does this Steve Jones keep operating>? It seems I've been reading about him for months, but he still gets to rip people off. I think you shoudl have a note about him in the terms of use when you sign up for an account here,:)

He's just a mad abuser of the public trust.

Always get delivery confirmation unless you trust the person implicitly.