Yet Another Bad Trade From The_Trader

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uatu13 ( 396 )
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Yet Another Bad Trade From The_Trader

Post by uatu13 »

Well, I think I might have been taken for a ride by The_Trader (aka Joseph Bartle), like many other BT members. I sent him the first half ($25 of $50) of a payment for 20 Black Library books on November 19, and have yet to receive anything from him yet. I've sent a few PM's, and have not heard anything back from them (the second PM I sent isn't showing up in my outbox yet). Given the number of complaints about this trader I can only conclude I'm another victim of his mail fraud scheme. I am currently taking action to recover my funds from Paypal, or my credit card if need be. :(

Here are the messages between Joseph Bartle and myself:

books
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:00 am
by the_trader

Scourge The Heretic
Gaunt's Ghosts : His Last Command
Gaunt’s Ghosts : Only In Death
Titanicus
Star of Damocles
Blind
Fire Warrior
Ultramarines : Killing Ground
Soul Drinkers : Chapter War
Crusade for Armageddon
Conquest of Armageddon
Eternal Damnation
Eternal War
Horus Heresy : Battle For The Abyss
Necromunda: Salvation
Necromunda: Fleshworks
Necromunda: Back From The Dead
Necromunda: Outlander
Kal Jerico Cardinal Crimson
Kal Jerico Lasgun Wedding

i have all of theese and they have only been red once each so near mint con

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Re: books
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:47 pm
by uatu13

Hey, how much were you looking to get for these, including shipping to zip 97405? Let me know, thanks!

Jeff

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Re: books
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:53 pm
by the_trader

$50 with free shipping

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Re: books
Sent at: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:57 am
by uatu13

Hey, $50 shipped definitely works for me, how did you prefer to be paid? Also, I saw you only had 1 feedback, do you have more feedback on ebay or something? If not, are you OK with a half now, half on arrival situation with the payment? I hate to be too paranoid, but I've been burned a few times on here with sending money, so I hope you understand. Let me know and we can work things out, thanks!

Jeff

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Re: books
Sent at: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:07 am
by the_trader

half now half when you get it is fine

if paypal is good for you heres mine
joe_n_lisa_bartle@hotmail.co.uk

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Re: books
Sent at: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:31 am
by uatu13

Cool, thanks for being understanding. I just sent the first $25, and will send the second payment as soon as everything shows up. Do you have any guess at to how long it will take to ship them? Let me know, thanks!

Jeff Wille
1726 Estate Dr.
Eugene, OR 97405
United States

$50 Shipped for:

Scourge The Heretic
Gaunt's Ghosts : His Last Command
Gaunt’s Ghosts : Only In Death
Titanicus
Star of Damocles
Blind
Fire Warrior
Ultramarines : Killing Ground
Soul Drinkers : Chapter War
Crusade for Armageddon
Conquest of Armageddon
Eternal Damnation
Eternal War
Horus Heresy : Battle For The Abyss
Necromunda: Salvation
Necromunda: Fleshworks
Necromunda: Back From The Dead
Necromunda: Outlander
Kal Jerico Cardinal Crimson
Kal Jerico Lasgun Wedding

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Re: books
Sent at: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:26 pm
by uatu13

Hey, just checking to see if you were able to get the 40K books out yet and what I can expect for a delivery time? Let me know, thanks!

Jeff

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Re: books
Sent at: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:07 am
by the_trader

posted 20th avrage time scale 1 or 2 weeks

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Re: books
Sent at: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:19 pm
by uatu13

Hey, the books haven't arrived yet. Do you have a tracking number or something so I can see where they're at? Let me know, thanks!

Jeff
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Re: Yet Another Bad Trade From The_Trader

Post by porkuslime »

Jeff, go ahead and PM this info to Norseman.. he is collecting it, and probably has some suggestions for things you can do to help the cause..

-Porkuslime
2+2=5 for sufficiently large values of 2.

If you don't have your Location listed in your User Control Panel, why not take a second and update it? It will let your trading partners know where you are from the beginning.

I use the Unofficial Porkuslime Trading Guidelines - if you have way less refs.. you ship first.

Folks I am awaiting a ref from.. Zack

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Re: Yet Another Bad Trade From The_Trader

Post by insidius »

You're definitely going to want to file a police report on this, as well. I think a few of the other guys who have done so said you can do it online, but I'm not sure. Ask Norseman for details on that, but definitely FOLLOW THROUGH.

Not doing so only sends these guys a message that they can do this whenever they want.

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
mon·ey: noun; a good that acts as a medium of exchange in transactions.
Money is a good like everything else; if your rating is lower, you ship first whether money is involved or not.

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Re: Yet Another Bad Trade From The_Trader

Post by TrooperPX »

Yes, the Hull PD has an on-line crime report.

http://www.humberside.police.uk/contact ... nor-crime/
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