the_trader... may be a Bad Trader

[TrooperPX]

On November 12th, I entered into a transaction with the_trader.

See thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=75131&p=142288#p142288

I have yet to receive these items. And yes, unfortunatly I sent $$ first. Yea, I know now... my "shopping eyes" just beat me to good sense. He just said all the right things, and as a new trader myself, someone trusted me once. Feeling confident, I concluded a second transaction. (I can hear some of you screaming "NOOOOOOOOO!!") But yes I did.

If it pans out, I will retract the posts of my concern. I really hope to receive the items I have paid for. Silly sucker.


But if not, I will pursue all possible legal recourses.

[govannon]

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=71

Better go back and read the rules before somebody with authority sees this.

Govannon

[TrooperPX]

Oh, my correspondence? Here it is cut-and-pasted from the PM window:

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Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:52 am
by the_trader

packed n posted yesterday all safe aswell

just asking my friend who lives near me wants rid of
1 FWShadowsword
1 FW Stormblade
1 FW Stormsword
10 russes

i told him i just sold mine to some one for a good price and said i would ask you if you want them
Quote the_trader Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:10 pm
by the_trader

will do
Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:05 pm
by TrooperPX

Paid! Please pack well to ensure their safe arrival. Thank you.


the_trader wrote:
if the shipping is more then $10 i'll pay the extra

my paypal is:
joe_n_lisa_bartle@hotmail.co.uk
Quote the_trader Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:49 pm
by the_trader

if the shipping is more then $10 i'll pay the extra

my paypal is:
joe_n_lisa_bartle@hotmail.co.uk
Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:44 pm
by TrooperPX

$70, sold!

$70 - Baneblade (x1)
$110 - Basis (x3), Chimeras (x3), Lemans (x4)
Sub total $180

Shipping $10
Total $190

Let me know if you need more for shipping, and your PayPal addy for payment.



the_trader wrote:
ok counter offer you offerd me $80 i'll counter offer $70 what do you say ?
Quote the_trader Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:40 pm
by the_trader

ok counter offer you offerd me $80 i'll counter offer $70 what do you say ?
Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:32 pm
by TrooperPX

I'd offer $80 for it as I can get the kit new for $62.


the_trader wrote:
same as the tanks just primmed all weaops are there all it needs is a loving home lol
Quote the_trader Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:14 pm
by the_trader

same as the tanks just primmed all weaops are there all it needs is a loving home lol
Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:12 pm
by TrooperPX

I think we have a deal!

While we're on the subject, what kind/condition is your Baneblade?


the_trader wrote:
so for all the chimeras basalisks n lemans thats $100 well make it $110 + $10 postage

i'm from the uk so as i offer all us buyers you pay the $10 [in this case] if any more i'll pay the extra

thats $12 a tank

what you think ?
Quote the_trader Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:08 pm
by the_trader

so for all the chimeras basalisks n lemans thats $100 well make it $110 + $10 postage

i'm from the uk so as i offer all us buyers you pay the $10 [in this case] if any more i'll pay the extra

thats $12 a tank

what you think ?
Re: IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:00 pm
by TrooperPX

Sight-unseen I'm offering $10 per vehicle, plus shipping. I'd be interested in the Basis, Chimeras and Lemans. Sound good, or shall we haggle?


the_trader wrote:
1 GW bane blade
3 basalisks
3 chimeras
10 setinals
4 russes

any offers ?
Quote the_trader IG TANKS
Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:29 am
by the_trader

1 GW bane blade
3 basalisks
3 chimeras
10 setinals
4 russes

any offers ?

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[arundel]

I think we were dupped man... I too bought 4 Russes and 3 Basilisks from him in the same time line and paid half up front, on the 12th of November. Crap.

He has sent conflicting stories about when he shipped them. I have initiated a PayPal complaint.

I'll paste my thread ASAP. off to Paypal now...

[the_trader]

i'm in talks with a fellow BTer to help moderate all the probelsm as i have been simply overloaded and were working on sovling this problem

[JohnHwangBT]

OK, then what's your timeline for resolution?

It takes, at most, a day to pack stuff for shipping and a day to drive it to the Post Office and mail.

So I'd expect to see tracking numbers by the weekend.

[arundel]

Well, you have told me you have shipped twice already, giving you til the weekend to provide tracking numbers seems generous, but I will wait as well. I would like an honest assessment of where my stuff is. And how did you sell two sets of three Basilisks when you only listed having three? How about the Russes? How many do you have in total?

Still seems like stalling until its to late to try and recover funds from Paypal.

Please, prove us wrong.

[redstarone]

Well, you have told me you have shipped twice already, giving you til the weekend to provide tracking numbers seems generous, but I will wait as well. I would like an honest assessment of where my stuff is. And how did you sell two sets of three Basilisks when you only listed having three? How about the Russes? How many do you have in total?

Still seems like stalling until its to late to try and recover funds from Paypal.

Please, prove us wrong.

PM me with your details please.

He has no money in the paypal for you to recover.

[porkuslime]

Well, you have told me you have shipped twice already, giving you til the weekend to provide tracking numbers seems generous, but I will wait as well. I would like an honest assessment of where my stuff is. And how did you sell two sets of three Basilisks when you only listed having three? How about the Russes? How many do you have in total?

Still seems like stalling until its to late to try and recover funds from Paypal.

Please, prove us wrong.

Arundel..

YOU need to open a BTR or Backout trade.. tacking your issues with the_trader onto established reports is not allowed. Falls into hearsay. Unless you can post a string of PMs or communication with the_trader, you have no way of proving your allegation.

-Porkuslime

[arundel]

Sorry, My bad, I will post a BTR...

Arundel

[porkuslime]

Ummm.. let me rephrase..

Start a new BTR on the_trader... in THAT thread post all your communications.. not here in this one..

-Porkuslime

[kelanen]

I'm going to cross post this to two threads because it affects you both - but it would seem that he's 'sold' two of you the same tanks...

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=76407
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=76493

Some different stuff too, but I'm sure he doesn't have enough tanks for both of you (and curiously a lot of the same numbers come up - 3 Basilisks, 1 BaneBlade, etc).

[starslayer]

Kelanen - you are from "across the pond". Can you get this guy's home adress/ phone ##?? Someone needs to ring Mum & Dad. And alert the bobbies.

[kelanen]

I am indeed from the UK.

Firstly, over here it's not mail fraud, and not something the police are going to be interested in. They will take a report, but no more.

If anyone has a full name and address, I *might* be able to to trace it, but not if he's ex-directory (as half the population is), and even if not, it will be listed in his parents names if he is a minor - depends if there are multiple people with that surname in that area (assuming the address isn't fake).

If anyone has the info then PM it to me, and I'll see what I can come up with. If you want to do it yourselves, then http://www.192.com will give you access to our Directory Listing service and the same info as I ccan get hold of. In fact it's more useful than our telephone service...

[TrooperPX]

i'm in talks with a fellow BTer to help moderate all the probelsm as i have been simply overloaded and were working on sovling this problem

For your sake, I hope you can resolve this.