The Brinkosanity issue

[Torrero]

Ok it looks like some other people have been stung by brink, so I needed to put this up. It should stop the other brink thread too.

Also forgive my bad grammar, I'm terrible at spelling.
I'm making an effort if you've noticed.

Oh bold is me, Italics Brinkosanity.

I am intreseted in trading you nids for some of my Chaos Pieces.
Pm back if intreseted.

Very interested

Here ill make it easer. What Chaos are you Intrested in?

Any marines! Erm dreads, marine, raptors, plaguebearers, demons... the list goes on!

HAAHhaha

Ok fair enough. heres some of what i got thats NIB

Thousand Sons
Possessed Chaos SM
CSM Terminators
Death Guard Plague Marines
Khorne Berzerkers Squad
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Chaos Terminator Lord
Defiler
CSM Land Raider

and asymbled but not painted I have:

2 CSM attack Squad
4 CSM (standard marine)squad
4 Chaos Spawn
Cypher, the Fallen Angle

so thats what I have to offer, see what you like, and make an offer.

thats a godly list! *falls on knees and renounces faith

I would love another defiler, i also love plague marine and I love termis!

I have Tyranids from macragge, and even the terrain from it if that wroth anything toward your almighty NIB collection

4. hahahaLOL

why thank you for the kind words.

You see my models need to be perfect when i build, so it takes a while to create a whole army. SO im left with a bunch in box cuz i never get around to building them! kinda OCD with em' hehe.

well, Ill depart with my Defiler. its yours, and as a sign of good faith, ill throw in the Plague guard, as well as any ONE more box or piece. SO im really giving you a good deal, but its because of how nice you were about it hahaha.

very Best
-Brink.

4.WOW! TY!

So you would like the nids and teh terrain? As a sign of good faith ill throw in the sergeant guy too. Hey, do you want the 2006 Gday demon slayer too?

So:
Defiler
Plague Marines
I think im being very cheeky, but the termies? If not, ill take just a spawn or something. I dont wanna rip you off for a few nids

Ill take anything your offering. and the Termies are all yours.

I just know that half of my Chaos will never get built as it is. and i really dont use the ones I have, So I find it best taht i dont waste my money, and at least give them to someone who WILL USE them. Unlike myself.

Good doing business.


-Brink

5. Ok shipping Address is

59 Langrick Avenue
Howden
Yorkshire
ENGLAND
DN147SS

I hope you odnt mind shipping to the UK, howver i will pay shipping charges.
Deal is:
4 Pieces of teh MAcragge Terrain. NEW unpainted
Demon Slayer Limited Edition Model
9 Gaunts
5 Genestealers
Limted edition Macragge Pilot
I can put more in!

Trading for:
Box of NIB termis
Box of Nib Plaguie marines
NIB defiler

Is this ok?

6. If by any chance you have anymore Nids'?

If not, looks good to me!

Colin Sweeney
291 Union Hall Rd.
Carlisle, PA 17013

i dont know how to write my address for non-usa, But i live in Pennsylvania, United States of America.
if that matters or doesnt or whatnot. ^-^

6. Nope I can do that!

Thats all teh nids I have.

Also im very interested in teh rest of your marines, I cant trade for them, but i could buy them?

If so, any prices, and I can let yu post the lot together

7. its ok, i dont have a way to accept $ online yet, but ill keep the CSM's till i do have a way.

I have another offer though,

Do you have the battledice?

I lost mine in a move and had to rob every game in the house of dice.

If you have teh tin of em, ill trade you by throwing in the 4 spawns and Cypher.

Just putting it on the table.

7. battledice, i have the GW dice set.

I dont understand? How do I pay you for my lot? *sorry a moment of stupidity here

8. you cant yet. thats what im saying. the rest will have to wait untill i set up some kinda account on paypal or something. I cant sell you the rest right now. its complicated. But do you like the Dice Trade?

8. SORRY IM AN IDIOT> IM NOT PAYING HAHA lollers. So used to eBay these days...

So its a deal?

9. oh i dont know. Do you have any of the scatterdice? and if so for d6 i just need like 10 at teh max. if you can do it tat is

9. Erm wat dice exactly do you need. I have some GW dice? but i have loads, how many do yu need?


10. yea sorry Give me a moment*hmmmm

10. Damn I cant do the scatter:( SORRY! I can get 10 d6 for you though.

ANyway, still up for the original trade?
If so, please clarify exactly what is being sent (this is just for confirmation)

Torrero

11. Message me back

11. Ok so the Deal is as followed:

I am trading you:



Defiler
Plague Marines box
Terminator Squad
4 Chaos Spawns
Cypher, the Fallen Angel


and in return your trading you:


4 Pieces of The Battle of Macragge Terrain.
Demon Slayer Limited Edition Model
9 Gaunts
5 Genestealers
Limted edition Macragge Pilot
10 Dice

Do we have an Accord?

12. yes we do! Deal!

I will do my best to get this in the post for monday for you.

Thanks again.

Torrero
13. Oh i found some Spore mines! You can have those too

13. YES, Thank you SOO much!

14. Ok its packed and ready. Pleasure doing busness. When i get my chaos, im very inclined to write a VERY nice article about you and post it in the good traders forum.

Thank You
15. Hi brink! I found a scatter dice for you, so im sending that for you too
16. Brink, Ive just noticed you joined 4 days ag yet have lots of references...

How did you get these so fast :S

14. Well, YOu see,
Mad_dog and I have Traded alot before, and at the time she couldnt post refs for me ( dont ask, I dont know why), But she can now, and did so for all teh other times.


And Ive Done with my account on here before, so I decided to make it again, because of my recent intrest in 40k again. To many Chaos and others, combined with all teh WM pieces i have, its like spring cleaning for me!!!

Very Best

-Brink//

17. I REALLY hope your being honest with me

Im still sending on Monday morning

Torrero, Sorry for being so suspicious

15. Hey Torrero, Don't sweat it! I get that every now and again on GOTG.


Well, Cant wait for the Models.

And Take Care of My Chaos, Ill miss them in there dusty boxes **tear**

Very Best

-Brink//

18. I will take of them! Especially cypher
19. I started a discussion aboutyou earlier, cos i was suspicious. I dont wanna see you get banned though so get over there:/

viewtopic.php?t=55083

17. No, I'm Currently at work. ^-^ oh fun of work...

Will do very soon.

2morrow ill get my girlfriend to take the box to Post office!!



Very Best

-Brink//
18. yea, im not helping by being a smart-ass on that forum! ^_^

21. When are you posting?
22. Sent
23. Have you shipped?
24. hehe ok!

They still bitching at you on teh forums! I said we will see when i get my goods.

19. ohh that will be a good move!!!

hahah

26. hi brink, if you sent the stuff today. Who did you send it to? i didnt give you a name did I?


Narrator: And here's where it started....

20. hello Torrero,

I have bad news. When I get your shipment, (unless you recalled it)
Im going to have to send it back to you. I was in a car accident, (first big snow of the year, oh boy...) and somebody slammed into my back. The bad part is that my chaos were in the trunk. Needless to say, they are not in a very "good" condition anymore.

I am sorry for the inconvenience to you. After a damage report and my file goes through, i may get the money that the pieces were worth, then if you still want to trade, we can discuss matters for the poor Chaos. Well, Ill be in touch.

27. No my shipment will be coming to you soon.

Yes If you would like to pay for them instead we could work out a deal?

I hope your not too hurt

So please get paypal!

-Nids -- $25 (cheap!)
-Dice -- $8
-Games day model $26
--Terrain $30
Sergeant $8
Shipping $15 (was $22 for me to send)
Thats around $100 for teh lot, which is much easier than sending back to me!

Thanks
Torrero

21. Well, If i can get the money! ^-^

Oh im fine, its my poor car thats the problem. I can have the cash soon but, i dont want to hold your figs if i cant get it right away. THIS SUCKS!!!

im so sorry for this!

I can set up a paypal account at least. I can see what my options are, and then ill notify you by the end of the day if I can buy em!

Very Best

-Brink// (THE LAST MESSAGE FROM BRINK)

28. So whats happening with the minis?

29. Any news regarding the trade?

30. Ok brink.

You havent give me confirmation of the situation yet...

Im going to have to report this to the bad trader forum in a few days time :S

I hope i dont have to!
PLease get back in touch ASAP!

Torrero

The numbers are the post order. They went a bit off when i sent more to him than he did me, so just use them to split my posts up, when they are in the same paragraph.

I hope this works, its a long post.

Long live BT.

Torrero[/b][/u]

[Torrero]

Just to stop confusion i got the order worng in one part. I cant edit so..

Brinks 17 comes after my 21.

[flagg07]

Maybe the staff will be in the Holiday spirit when they come across this one.

Check out the rules as well as the post directly under yours for an example of what a complete BTR looks like. I'm fairly confident this ain't gonna cut it.

[starslayer]

This doesnt look right to me. It looks pieced together, it does not look actual real emails/PM's.

[npd_bigdaddy]

This doesnt look right to me. It looks pieced together, it does not look actual real emails/PM's.

Ummm, gee, I'd have to agree with that as well.......

Not to mention that above, BUT you're trading basically half of a Battle for Mac box set, so a whopping 25-30 bucks retail and a GD mini, which might be another 25 bucks, for what again??

Let's see, according to your post:

Defiler, NIB $55
Box of new Termies, NIB $50
Box of Plague Marines, NIB, $35
4 Chaos Spawns, $50
Cypher, $15

Yeah, ok.....so between 2 rookie traders, you're gonna trade over $200 bucks worth of stuff, for one GD mini and half of a box of Battle for Mac box set??? 200 retail for 50-60 retail??

Yeah, color me stupid.......there's no way this was a legitimate trade.

This reeks of fish more than that time some guy tried to sell me week old shellfish out of the back of his van in the middle of July.......

Hasn't this fiasco gone on long enough now??

Erik

[npd_bigdaddy]

And then there's this:

Quoting you: I lost mine in a move and had to rob every game in the house of dice.

If you have teh tin of em, ill trade you by throwing in the 4 spawns and Cypher.

So you're gonna trade 65 bucks worth of models for 10 starter set dice, which might be what, 5 bucks retail at best?

Come on, the more I go over and read this the more laughable it becomes.

This is just getting to be ridiculous

Erik

[JayLikesSKaven]

It does seem to be a bit fishy.

Torrero, i suggest you post the acual pm's or email you used(dates and everything) as right now, those look like fake messages.

You better hurry too, i dont think the mods will be easy on you.

[flagg07]

About the only thing keeping me from thinking he's a scammer himself is that the brink account is registered to a PA address while he is in the UK. Fortunately he's only got 1 FB posted for him from another person I can confirm lives in the UK.

In the immortal words of the Admins, RTFR and post your BTR correctly.
If you're unclear how to do that, contact someone who has done a BTR correctly and ask for their help. At this point, you're looking at a suspension for posting an improper BTR.

[2.0]

I don't know, it's not for us to judge whats a fair trade and whats not. Torrerro definatley will get the hit from the mods for his format. I looked at brinkosanity's ref's and although theres only one guy on there a bunch of times, who raved about his deal, that could have been fake as his account has been suspended according to his profile. So maybe Torrerro fell for the "if it's too good to be true, it probably is" trick from what it sounds. Thats just an outside view. Again, I'm not judging the trade, just the info and the profiles, but you really needed to read the BTR rules before posting.

[Gaijin18]

Torrero


You need to post EVERYTHING that went back and forth between you and brinko,,,not just the text of the messages but the whole thing,time and date sections aswell.

[npd_bigdaddy]

First, let's assume that this trade is "legitimate". OK, tell him how to properly post PM's......heck, I'll admit even I don't know how to do that, as thankfully, after nearly 100 trades, I've never had to post a Bad Trader Report.......he needs to do that ASAP to add any sort of legitimacy to this post, and secondly, it's the rules.

Now secondly, if this trade is indeed legit, I'll be more than happy to be the first to step to the plate and be a nice guy. Heck, if he was willing to offer up $65 dollars of GW goods for a handful of starter set dice, I will be more than willing to not only match, but BEAT that offer!! I'll only take $50 in trade of GW goods, and I'll even send you 20 dice!! That's double the amount!! And I'll throw in 2 scatter dice to boot!

It is Christmas after all........

Erik

[Linrandir]

In the immortal words of Me...

RTFR. That's Read The F**king Rules. They're not hard to miss. Go read them now, I'll wait.


Okay. Your post is all kinds of wrong. Being as it's the holiday season, I'll give you 72 hours to post the required information IN THE CORRECT FORMAT before I boot you for a month.

72 hours starts...now: 19:48 hours on 23 December 2007, that's Eastern Daylight Savings time in the USA.

[Torrero]

Oh i cba now... That took me ages.

Dont kick me, just nuke this thread, and really couldnt the admin just log onto my messages to check im telling the truth??

Torrero

[JayLikesSKaven]

Oh i cba now... That took me ages.

Honestly i think itd be easier to copy and paste the messages rather than write it all out.

Dont kick me, just nuke this thread, and really couldnt the admin just log onto my messages to check im telling the truth??

No thread ever gets deleted in this section.

And even if he could check your messages(which i dont think he can), sometimes in life you got to do things yourself.If i was up for a suspention i would be posting my messages asap.

Lin even gave you 3 days! It must be a christmas miracle!

[MagickalMemories]

Oh i cba now... That took me ages.

Dont kick me, just nuke this thread, and really couldnt the admin just log onto my messages to check im telling the truth??

Torrero

Well, I don't know what "cba" is, as I avoid as much net-speak as possible, barring the most common (LOL, etc).

As for the rest, though...

No. As a matter of fact he WON'T "nuke" it and WON'T log into your PM's.

If you're going to play here, you're going to have to understand that certain things are just not done.
The first of which is posting BTR's without posting the proper proof (and getting away with it).
There are rules at the top of this forum that you should have read before posting. Go back & look for it. It's the one titled "BAD TRADER REPORTING RULES."

Ignorance of the protocols is no excuse, nor is laziness.

Post your information (and be happy you were given THREE TIMES the amount of time given to others in the past), or you'll get a vacation.


Eric