Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:23 am
by Siegebeast2142
I have a tomb kings battalion box, it's an older one that comes with bows for the skeletons. It's nib except for 1 skeleton I assembled as an archer. I'd like to trade it for Be'lakor, the Khorne Herald on Juggernaut, and the flesh hounds.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:06 am
by Cyx
Hello,
I am interested in the battalion box. But do you happen to have anything else for trade, or want the other daemons? Mostly just trying to get rid of them as lots like I mentioned in the post.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:08 am
by Siegebeast2142
Oh, I didn't see that sorry. I just did I quick search. I play the khorne daemon in codex, so I don't even have the option to use any of the other daemons. If you are willing to break apart all of the khorne models and be'lakor, which would be skull taker and karanak ($44.50), I don't have anything else on your wants list, but i'd be willing to throw in about $20 depending on condition.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:18 am
by Siegebeast2142
actually, karanak can't be taken in the khorne daemonkin codex, so I'd only be interested in skull taker. If you'd be willing to part out, I could throw in $10 for skull taker.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:57 pm
by Siegebeast2142
How much cash for the entire lot then, including the tomb kings box?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:52 am
by Cyx
Yeah, I don't want to part out man, sorry. Thank you though.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:18 pm
by Cyx
So it's the older one, but still has the 40 warriors, 3 chariots, and 8 horsemen right?
Retail for what I have is
$80 for the grinder
60 for the hounds
50 juggernaught
35 ddaemonettes
30 karanak
30 skull taker
30 fiend
30 beast
19 masque
Can't find belabor on the website but I'd say 50 since he's a bigger model
So maybe ~414 retail, and even though battalion box is older Id say it's 125 retail. I'm mostly trying to get rid of this stuff too, so I'd say the box + $140 which is less than 50% retail
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:33 pm
by Siegebeast2142
The box says it comes with 32 Skeleton Warriors armed with bows, spears, or hand weapon and shield, 3 skeleton chariots and 8 skeleton horsemen w/bows or spears and shields.
Be'lakor is $38 http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/sea ... be%27lakor
Soul Grinder is $66 http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/sea ... ul+grinder
Karanak and Skull Taker are $22.25 each http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... ns-Karanak & http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... Skulltaker
Masque is $16, but that's not as far off as the others http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... The-Masque
Beast is $25 http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... -of-Nurgle
Deamonettes are $30 http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... f-Slaanesh
Herald on Juggernaut is $40 http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... -of-Khorne
Fiend is $25 http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... nesh-1-40K
Hounds are $50 http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... -of-Khorne
Depending on how the pictures look, I could be okay with throwing in $100.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:34 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Could you send pictures to hookerc@usa.com please?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:50 pm
by Cyx
Sent the pics, not sure why it was off so much. I swear it said those next to them on the site.
Any way here are the pics again
More Pictures in first comment
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:56 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Yea, that looks fine. does $100 with the battalion box sound acceptable?
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:06 pm
by Cyx
I like to barter and haggle a bit, so please don't be offended.
But since it's the older battalion box, how about $110, and you pay shipping. But I'll ship first without anything due to the lower rating.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:28 pm
by Siegebeast2142
I can do $105, which gets us exactly to 50% retail, better than your original percentile offer. But I can not pay shipping for both of us. You pay yours, I'll pay mine, and I'll send the $105 inside of the battalion box in a small envelope.
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:35 pm
by Cyx
Alright, deal then if you're in the US.
Will try to get it out next week after work. USPS closes at 5 and I get off at 4, so I'll have to see if I can get out early one day.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:41 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Sounds good!
Shipping enough:
CJ Hooker
3014 N Willow RD
Spokane Valley, WA 99206
yours? I'll get everything packaged up and ready to ship out.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:38 pm
by Cyx
Thanks man
Charles miller
9383 sparks way
Sacramento ca 95827
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:08 pm
by Cyx
Hey, just an update. I forgt I get tomorrow off as a holiday, so I'll likely be shipping tomorrow.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:08 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Awesome, thanks for letting me know!
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:12 pm
by Cyx
No problem, man. Figured I would keep you apprised.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:07 pm
by Cyx
Arrival says monday 4/6
Tracking # 9534 6110 9901 5090 5052 71
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:46 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Hey, I got the models today. They all arrived pretty well. My biggest problem with them though is that the metal models were put together with green stuff in the sockets. The beast, the heralds, and be'lakor are all put together like that. That's $125 of the models. Instead of 50% retail for them, I'd be fine paying 25% retail for them, or sending them back. I wish you had mentioned the green stuff fillings So instead of 105, I'd be sending $50.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:47 pm
by Siegebeast2142
The other option I'd like to propose is not sending any money, and shipping back Karanak, the herald on the juggernaut, the beast, masque and daemonettes with the tomb kings, and calling htat a fair trade.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:25 am
by Siegebeast2142
I was looking at pictures on GW's site, and I noticed that the model that I thought was the herald on Juggernaut was a Fiend of Slannesh. There is no herald on juggernaut model.
The other option I'd like to propose is not sending any money, and shipping back Karanak, the fiend, the beast, masque and daemonettes with the tomb kings, and calling that a fair trade. That's $126 of models for 125 in the battle box.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:50 am
by Cyx
This is the newest model as they just came out with new stuff as I'm sure you know.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... id=2965668
There was a fiend of slaanesh AND the Khorne herald on juggernaught. Further, I don't remotely consider the green stuff that much of a problem, and while I didn't mention it I didn't think I had to. If it was that much of a problem (25% worth) then you should have explicitly asked.
Just send the entire package back.
This is where he decides to cancel the deal. Remember earlier he said that he "likes to barter," and instead of doing that, just cancels the trade. What follows is mostly just a bunch of me trying to salvage a deal that we could both be happy with, with a bunch of circles.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:55 am
by Cyx
In addition, I expect them to be packed the same way I packed them and in the mail by the end of tuesday. I feel this is an adequate amount of time, if there is something pressing preventing you from doing this, let me know now. And I double bubble wrapped eveeything and added a second layer of large bubble wrap on top. Nothing should be broken or bent whatsoever
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:56 am
by Siegebeast2142
I'll send you pictures of how I got the models, Karanak has his two extra heads broken off, and the fiend fell apart in transit. Like I said, I'll take pictures. One wing and the hand with the ax fell off be'lakor, but I've glued those back on.
The only reason why it's a big problem is because of how sloppiply it was done, and how many points that costs in a paint score. When you have green/blue stuff bulging out of the gaps where pieces glue together, that isn't nice or professional looking. When models have defects like that, it is on the person who has them to mention them, not the person getting them to ask about it. People would have thousand word PM's asking about all the different things about the model they want, instead of the person getting rid of them saying everything they deviated from with standard assembling.
Now, to make sure that I understand you right, you want to completely cancel the trade, instead of accepting one of the other offers I mentioned, correct? Instead of getting the tomb kings and most of your models back, you just want all of your models back?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:15 pm
by Cyx
Thank you, pictures will be fine.
And I completely understand that, I got these second hand. If I were to keep them rather than get rid of them I would have just removed the green stuff when I noticed it. Also, they're not even primed, even with the green stuff 50% is more than fair. Of course you could find better deals, but that's even more on the cheap side from my experience asking about prices on this site.
It's on me that I didn't inspect them that well, but as bad as it is, the pictures would have shown that as well. I'm willing to work with you, but certainly not dropping 1/4 of the trade simply because of some green stuff that you can fix in less than an hour or two.
Yes, I only want to get rid off all of this at once. Which is why the stuff that was paid cash for was 50% retail. If I just got some of them back then I would still have to spend more time trying to find someone who wants them.
I'd be willing to accept the battalion box and $90, but nothing less. That's about 42% retail which is more than fair for bare metal assembled pieces that haven't been so much as primed.
Otherwise I'm willing to pay half of shipping ($4.5 since I paid $9) to send it back.
Also, were you saying that you didn't receive the khorn herald on juggernaught? Because that was most definitely sent with everything else.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:28 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Correct, there is NO herald of Khorne on a juggernaut. The model that I thought was the herald was a Fiend of Slannesh. That was the only thing missing from the box. With the missing herald, and the few hours of extra work to remove superglued green stuff, and keeping all of the models, I'd be willing to send you no more than $65.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:56 pm
by Cyx
That's highly unlikely in my opinion. I'm 100% confident that the herald was included. It's a bloodletter riding a juggernaught. It was in the box when shipped. I'm not going to short anyone anything, that's ridiculous. Everything in the pictures INCLUDING the herald was shipped in the box.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:59 pm
by Cyx
Just to make it perfectly clear, this is the pictre I orginally sent as well. That model on the right of the bloodletter riding a juggernaught wasn't in the box?
Image of Khorne Herald riding juggernaut is suppose to be here
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:24 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Correct. That models was not in the box. All of metal parts that broke off of pieces have been assigned to the model they came from. There wasn't even a left over bloodletter sword in the box or anything.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:27 pm
by Cyx
Then we have a problem, because it was most certainly included in the box. I don't have so much as a single daemon bit as that was the last of it. I remember the items I put bubble wrap around, and that was definitely one of them. When I get home I will go through wverything thoroughly despite the fact I'm damn sure it was included.
How was the box when you received it and did you take pictures when you opened it?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:49 pm
by Siegebeast2142
The box had one piece of tape in the middle of both side flaps on the bottom. No, I didn't take any pictures of it before I opened it.
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:53 pm
by Cyx
I am NOT accusing you whatsoever. But to be perfectly honest I think it's more likely that someone would want a free model than usps opening and taking a model out.
Take this as acknowledgement that I'm filing a claim with usps and using your posts as affirmation of non receipt.
And it should have had one across the top and 2 across horizontally.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:06 pm
by Siegebeast2142
From my point of view, it's much more likely that someone mispacked than USPS took a free model. Regardless, shall I send $65 and the Battallion box out on Monday to fulfill my end of the trade?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:11 pm
by Cyx
Please hold off and let me contact usps tomorrow to see what they would prefer we do. But I am not comfortable with just receiving $65 and the battalion box for what I sent you.
And I completely agree I would as well if I was in your shoes. Which is why I said I wasn't accusing you, as there's no evidence one way or the other yet.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:48 am
by Cyx
Please take pictures of everything you received, including pictures of all sides of the box.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:32 am
by Cyx
After taking pictures of the box, please send it back to me via USPS with a signature required. Just use the bubble wrap that was already included to protect the models, please.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:33 pm
by Siegebeast2142
So you are cancelling the trade?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:33 pm
by Siegebeast2142
So you are cancelling the trade?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:00 pm
by Cyx
No, if you would like to send me 90$ (-$15 for the green stuff) and the battalion box for what I sent (Daemonettes, karanak, hounds, herald, masque, belakor, soulgrinder, fiend, and beast) then please go ahead.
If not, then please send ALL of my models back via usps with signature.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:02 pm
by Cyx
And skulltaker, I forgot him off of the list I just sent.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:09 pm
by Cyx
In addition, you havent acknowledged my request of pictures of the box and contents you received.
If you truly did not receive a model then it's imperative you do this.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:48 pm
by Siegebeast2142
My time is more valuable than than $5 an hour for just the active repairs. On top of that, I have to get high grade stripper in order to be able to even remove the green stuff. $65 is more than fair, especially considering the missing $40 model.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:50 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Without divulging things in my personal life that I rather not share with someone as hostile as you, I will get you the pictures as promptly as I can.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:53 pm
by Cyx
The $40 model would mean subtracting $20 from the trade. And you don't need that, work smarter not harder. Can be done with a file or ordinary modeling knife/tool. That's beside the point though, i obviously have a huge problem with this because I sent you something that you're saying you didn't receive.
If you happen to have "found" the other model and what to do the original trade of $105 or $90 and the tomb Kings battalion box then that's fine.
Otherwise I'm not getting what we agreed on and what I sent out.
And still I ask, please send pictures of the box as you received it.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:55 pm
by Cyx
I think hostile is definitely an exaggeration. Aggressive maybe considering either way I'm likely out a model, regardless of the reason.
But thank you nonetheless
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:56 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Also, should you insist on anything more than $65, and have me send your models back, I'll need $15 sent by PayPal to ship your models back to you priority flat rate with signature confirmation, as you requested. This is non negotiable. You failed to mention a defect with your models which put us in this situation, and by telling me to send them back, you aren't reasonably trying to salvage this. I'm not taking any sort of monetary hit on a mistake YOU made.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:27 pm
by Cyx
First, let's get this straight. The issue is that a model is missing, not the green stuff. I'm more than willing to work around that with you. Because as you pointed out it is my fault for not disclosing it. I didn't carefully inspect the items but I still supplied pictures. If it was this big of an issue then you most certainly should have inquired about the green stuff on the belakor model that's quite obvious in the picture (after having now gone back to look at how "bad" the green stuff was several times). Something accidentally not being mentioned is not a big issue. Missing an entire ~$50 model is.
I will absolutely not take a $35 hit ($90 to $65) and lose my model that I know for a fact II sent. I had it with the other models and distinctly remember each item I packed since it wasn't very many any way. 42% for those models is MORE than fair regardless of any green stuff issue outside of converting thing (which none of the models had).. I have tried to salvage this, but I refuse to not get what I'm owed when I held up my side and sent every model we agreed upon.
First, please provide pictures of the box when you can
Then, let me know when you'll be at usps and get an estimate of the price and send me a picture of the print out. I will PayPal you the money then and there. Or take a picture of the receipt and I'll send you that exact amount.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:45 pm
by Siegebeast2142
After doing some math, the $65 I'm asking for is only $5 less than what you say I should pay. You said you would deduct $15 for the green stuff, and the missing model is $20 (after the 50% reduction). Added together that is $35. $105-$35=$70. Since this is what you have offered anyways, is $70 okay with you? If not, then I'll send the models back at your expense. Pictures of box/received items coming shortly.
Secondly, read bartertown rules. It is on YOU to tell ME about the status of your models, what condition they are in, and any defects. It is not on ME to ask YOU.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:36 pm
by Cyx
Excuse me, $25 hit, not $35. Was typingtoo quickly.
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:55 pm
by Cyx
I did, I told you that they were assembled and bare metal. And then supplied pictures that were more than sufficient for figuring out if they interested you. Either of us could have helped the situation. I, by being more thorough. Or you, by asking for more pictures at any point or if green stuff was used.
No where in the link from the "bartertown rules" thread does it edplicitly state I'm required to say that green stuff is present. They were not converted, and you're right I should have looked closer. But this is not a big issue at all and I've been more than willing to work with you on this. Also, a pragmatic use of "defect" is incredibly subjective. It wasn't defective (or its defective as soon as it's off the sprue), it had some green stuff. After looking at the pictures several time it's not even remotely as bad as you make it out to be either.
And absolutely not, it STILL doesn't account for my missing model that I sent you.
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:01 pm
by Cyx
Chazzy77@gmail.com
Or you could just use the forum tools to post the links here.
Or you could use an image hosting site that gives you the formatted links for forums
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:59 pm
by Siegebeast2142
I'll need your email address to send you pictures.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:03 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Any sort of green stuff spilling out from assembly points is "defective" because 1: It looks unproffessional 2: It subtracts waaaay too many points in any sort of competitive tournament where painting is not only a requirement, but part of your overall score 3: It says you are required to fully describe your models. Not mentioning something is effectively the same as saying it isn't there.
Now, about this issue with what I'm sending you back. Are you willing to take $70 and the battalion box?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:04 pm
by Siegebeast2142
email sent.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:13 pm
by Cyx
I already said absolutely not. I'm still losing $24.25 (the model is $48.50 not $40 as you keep saying).
I will only accept the battalion box and $90. I've said this several times.
...yet it also mentions that once a deal is made it's done. It would have been on you to check or ask for more pictures at that point if you had in fact received all models. This is not a you problem, it's a problem for both of us. I'm out a $48.50 model and you have no commitment to this and no risk whatsoever except getting a better deal.
Also, if it is "spilling from assembly points", then you could see it in the pictures. I only have the pictures to reference, and it's not that bad at all. Not to mention we've been over this, I'd be willing to compensate by dropping from 105 to 90 for the time it would take to remove. (Less than an hour). By just using a pick or knife on the outside there is minimal chance to damage the model and you can remove ALL of the green stuff from sight. The only difference would be at MAX 1-2mm of extra length in some areas. Or you could unassemble the model at places and remove the green stuff all together.
That's why the models would be priced at 40-50% retail, because of that extra work.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:17 pm
by Siegebeast2142
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Cha ... -of-Khorne
Games Workshop disagrees with you... This is my second time posting the link. I'm not going to pay for a model that I didn't receive.
Very well. I'll send your models back at your expense. $15 sent to my email address
That will cover flat rate medium box, plus the signature confirmation.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:17 pm
by Cyx
The pictures were inadequate. Only the last one actually showed up. I cannot view the rest as they are in a format I don't have access to. Just simply post the links to the image hosting site. If you simply wanted to embed the pictures (which it looks like you tried to do) then you could have sent them on this site. They prefer everything to be done through this site, so I'm not sure why you would prefer to use emails.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:20 pm
by Siegebeast2142
The files are too big to fit here. Right click on the picture and click open with windows viewer or equivalent.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:22 pm
by Cyx
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Cha ... of-Khorne#
For whatever reason mine keeps defaulting to Canadian.
You can get an estimate with no expense to you, take a picture and email it to me. I'm not going to send MORE items or money to someone when I have nothing to show for it.
So why would you expect me to give away a model for free?
Please send the pictures so they can actually be viewed.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:28 pm
by Cyx
Obviously you can do it, email the pictures as you did the last one.
I have apple software on my phone and windows on my laptop. Regardless of what I use i am unable to view the pictures.
I have downloaded them and used every type of picture viewer I have. They are not showing up.
Just post the link to the pictures. That does not require using any specific size and you can easily opt to make folders private/public on most free imaging hosting sites.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:31 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Then click on US, and then search for herald of Khorne. It's $40. I don't know why the hell you'd choose Canada for your location in GW's site instead of Cali, where you get your mail.
Total for flat medium box priority shipping and signature confirmation is $15:55! Good thing you had me check, I'd be out 55 cents!!!!!!!!!! ERMYGERDNERDRAAAAAAAGE!!!!!
So, after paypal fees are accounted for, I need you to send $16.32 to my paypal.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:59 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Resent.
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:54 pm
by Cyx
Received
Shows 12.65 from your zip code to mine.
ImageImage showing a screen shot of him calculating shipping using flat rate, but not including signature confirmation
I'll respond tomorrow as I can't finish discussing this tonight.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:02 pm
by Siegebeast2142
That does not include the signature confirmation.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:08 am
by Cyx
Sent
Also, if you actually read what I wrote, it says it defaults to Canada. I've never set it to Canada and don't go on the website enough to be familiar with whether or not you can set a permanent country for your device. I do find it humorous that you called me hostile and then make slight insults, though. At least be upfront about it, haha.
I would rather get the amount right any way. I'd rather not have to spend more time dealing with you in the future. And since I'm "hostile", let me be more clear. Thats not a shot at your character, but the fact that I'm losing a model has made me apprehensive towards dealing with you, and trading models in general.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:29 am
by Siegebeast2142
You see, this is where I'm apprehensive about dealing with you, specifically. You have this weird all or nothing mentality. You expect me to pay for a model that I don't have, citing your perfect memory as proof that you did send it. You say you just want to get rid of your daemons for models you will use. Another simple answer would have been sticking to the original amount, but you buying a new herald on juggernaut and you shipping it to me. But, that would have "cost" you more than you would have "lost".
Re: Daemons
Sent: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:58 am
by Cyx
Let me know when you have sent the box, please include everything you received in the box. And if you like, video record you actually packing up the box.
It's not "misplaced" and I don't have a "perfect memory". What I do know is what I packed, the last of the daemons I acquired. I don't have tons for miniatures stuff not do I live in a mess. I no longer have the model and I remember packing it. Therefore I can say I'm confident that it was in the box.
It's not an all or nothing mentality, it's that I'm not going to give you a discount and be shorted by an entire model.
Honestly if I can prove you didn't remove the model yourself then I'd have no problem with it whatsoever. What I can't understand is that you're fighting for models that you apparently don't want unless they're heavily discounted because of "green stuff". This has been at absolutely no cost to you other than time. With these transactions online you're bound to waste time at some point and sometimes deals don't work out. But you haven't actually had to buy or trade anything.
If I was you and really feel I was shorted a model intentionally then I wouldn't want to trade with that person, period. Hence why I'm paying over 50% retail of the model in question in shipling to get my other models back. I would rather pay that then possibly have to deal with you further and have possible problems with what you sent me.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:20 am
by Siegebeast2142
Honestly if I can prove you didn't remove the model yourself then I'd have no problem with it whatsoever.
If this is the way you are going to deal with this kind of problem with others *when*, not if, this happens, you aren't going to like the responses from the community. Do you have any proof that you packed the model? The fact is it is missing.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:17 am
by Cyx
I really don't think this is as common as you implied with your previous message, insinuating that it isn't likely but will most certainly happen again. Careless mistakes happen, this is not one of them.
By accepting a new deal I'm basically acceding that I'm at fault, and I'm not. I would most certainly rather just start from scratch. Which is the whole reason I don't mind spending the 50% retail price in shipping just to get my stuff MINUS a model back.
It's incredibly likely that I'm just SOL and won't get my model back. YOU'RE the one that's not getting the full end of the deal that we agreed on. It's on me that it's missing. I agree that the burden of proof is on me because I don't have video of me packing the box.
Either way we're just going in circles. Let me know when you've sent the box
Re: Daemons
Sent: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:32 pm
by Siegebeast2142
Shipped. tracking number: 23121870000010374560. Signature Confirmation. I have box weight recorded, and video of me putting items in. Please make sure you note box weight when package arrives, and record yourself removing item for verification.
Re: Daemons
Sent: Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:09 am
by Cyx
Have you received the money and sent the package?
Re: Daemons
Sent: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:08 pm
by Cyx
I most certainly will, thank you.
So not only was there a model missing from what he said he'd trade me, and not only were there globs of greenstuff used to glue metal contact points on all his models, not only did he straight up cancel the trade, but I'm the bad trader here.Re: Daemons
Sent: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:56 pm
by Cyx
I received the package.
And I am now informing you that I started a request post in the BTR forum in order to leave a bad reference for you.
viewtopic.php?f=103&t=255481
regards,
Cyx
Consider yourself warned about dealing with him. Definitely not the most fun I've had on this site.