Backout/Deadbeat - Bryboon

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Backout/Deadbeat - Bryboon

Post by Wolf_Pack » Wed May 21, 2014 4:33 am

Evening gentlemen,

I've had some back and forth for two weeks with Bryboon about trading his large retribution lot for NIB chaos items I had inbound. I went out of my way to get additional NIB items for this deal, which took a turn towards suspicious. Since it's been 10 days since he has last logged on and that he did read my last message on trading terms. That is the part where I agree to shiping at the same time on proving ownership of items via picture. I am assuming a backout in best case scenario or attempt at fraud in worse case.

Here's the Transcript:

MESSAGE HISTORY:


Subject: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)

Bryboon wrote:
Hello,

I have a very full army of the Retribution of Scyrah I will not be using again. This army includes the items below (in condition listed) as well 2 or 3 sets of Tokens (forgot how many), Vengeance (good condition, and Colossals (horrid condition, not included in price at all) and of course all the cards needed for the models.

Adeptis Rahn - Bare
Dawnlord Vyros - Bare
Garryth, Blade of Retribution - Bare
Issyria, Sibyl of Dawn - Bare
Kaelyssa, Night's Whisper - Painted
Lord Arcanist Ossyan - Painted
Ravyn, Eternal Light - Painted
Vyros, Incissar of the Dawnguard - Bare

Aspis - Bare
Banshee - Painted
Chimera (x2) - 1 New, 1 Primed
Daemon - Primed
Discordia - Primed
Griffon (x5) - 4 Bare, 1 New
Hypnos - Primed
Manticore - Bare
Phoenix (x2) - 1 Painted, 1 Bare
Hyperion - Bare

Arcantrik Force Generator - New

Dawnguard Sentinels - Painted
Dawnguard Sentinel Officer & Standard - Painted
Destors - Bare
Eiryss, Mage Hunter Commander - New
Mage Hunter Infiltrators - Painted
Houseguard Halberdiers - Bare
Houseguard Halberdier Officer and Standard Bearer - Bare
Mage Hunter Strike Force - Min Painted, Rest primed
Mage Hunter Commander - Painted
Stormfall Archers (x2) - Primed
Soulless Escort (x3) - 2 Primed, 1 Bare
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt - Bare

Arcanist (x2) - 1 Painted, 1 Primed
Dawnguard Destor Thane Cavalry Solo - Primed
House Shyeel Magister - New
Houseguard Thane (x2) - 1 Bare, 1 Built
Mage Hunter Assassin (x2) - 1 Painted, 1 Primed
Narn, Mage Hunter of Ios - Primed
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution - Painted
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios - Primed
Sylys Wyshnalyrr - Painted
Dhalia and Skeryth - Bare

Included is a P.A.C.K Air case that fits almost everything built. The paint is decent quality, nothing special, but should be easy enough to strip as most models are metal. Retail for all of this is over $1000+ USD and I am looking to sell it for around 55% (open to negotiaion) or trade it for roughly retail for 40K models (preference to Slaanesh Daemons, Dark Eldar, Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, Militarum Astra or Tau) but will value models new on sprue or unpainted at a higher price for the retail trade.

Last note I live in Canada, although I am not against shipping elsewhere, it can be annoying and sometime costly with Canada Post, I work for a shipping company so can make it quite easy if it is USA or Canada, but we can figure that out.

Thanks for checking.

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sat May 03, 2014 2:05 am
by Wolf_Pack
Hi! Are you looking to trade this as a single lot or are you willing to break it into large chunks?

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sat May 03, 2014 11:25 am
by Bryboon
As a lot. Not worth parting out with shipping costs and the chance of being left with a few odd solos or jacks.

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sat May 03, 2014 11:32 am
by Wolf_Pack
I respect that. In that case, if you haven't got yourseldlf a trade next week I will be able to mount a proper offer for the whole lot. I am expecting a large amount of NIB chaos marines from a trade.

Let me know if you conclude a deal until then ;)

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sat May 03, 2014 11:50 am
by Bryboon
I will keep you informed sir.

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 04, 2014 5:02 pm
by Bryboon
Hey just a heads up, so far all offers have been for part outs, so if you are considering the full list I will give you dibs on it as you contacted me first.

If not send me a list of what you are looking for exactly, I am trying to build a list to see what everyone wants to see if it is worth while for me.

Thanks,
Bryan.

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 04, 2014 8:23 pm
by Wolf_Pack
Until I receive my package and verify it's contents - I can make a tentative:

Chaos/SM - All NiB

CSM Codex - 60$
2x Land Raider - 182$
2x Chaos Bikers (3 Pack) - 90$
2x Chaos Biker (Single) 30$
1x Forge/Mauler Fiend - 82$
2x Raptors - 84$
1x Chaos Space Marines - 47$
1x Chaos Terminators - 60$
2x Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor - 60$
1x Space Marine Predator - 70$
1x space Marine Rhino - 50$

That's 815$ CAD retail so far. I can Also include some models I've been working on converting for Chaos. A Chaos Heldrake Converted to a Helfish, 6 Brutes converted to Mark of Nurgle Obliterators and Mutilators. Some Starter set chosen bodies you can also use for conversions. I can look around for more NIB stuff also, see what turns up.

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 04, 2014 8:56 pm
by Bryboon
Whoa calm down there sir aha.

You are providing a lot in new condition. Some of mine is painted and more still primed. I wouldn't dream of trying to rip you off for models painted for equal value in new product. Mine I believe with case and all included retails about $1200 USD, what you listed costs $640 USD. I don't know what a Helfish is aha and may be interested in the Nurgle Conversion (can I see pics? It would help me decide as I am mostly against God marked units), but the Chosen are always welcome.

As you said fish around and see what else you have, but as all your is new I would be interested in looking at the deal anyways depending what else you locate. Don't try to match my USD value, as I think you're models are worth more.

Thanks,
Bryan.

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 04, 2014 9:42 pm
by Wolf_Pack
Give me am email and I will send you pics

Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 04, 2014 10:05 pm
by Bryboon

Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Mon May 05, 2014 10:33 am
by Bryboon
Damn those are awesome. I would love the Oblits. The Helfish you're more than welcome to keep though. It's an amazing conversion it just is not something I need.

Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Mon May 05, 2014 12:04 pm
by Wolf_Pack
Cool. There are 3 mutilators and 2 oblits. Probably can mix and match as you like as far as make units really, they are all warping chaos monstrosities ;)

Where do we stand with this? Not sure if I can get more NIB items for the time being - I have most of my extra ressources invested in this trade :)

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Mon May 05, 2014 4:11 pm
by Bryboon
You know what sir I like the deal as is. I am thinking it'll be a yes. There was one guy who was interested and emailed me I will give him until tonight to get back to me and if he hasn't we will do this.

I believe you live in Canada too which is awesome as I can ship stuff out everyday at work with delivery and tracking.

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Mon May 05, 2014 7:31 pm
by Wolf_Pack
Sounds good. I should have my Chaos pieces in a week or so, hoping they do not transit through the bloody Miami sorting facility.

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Mon May 05, 2014 8:00 pm
by Bryboon
Oh bad issues with Miami? Aha

Alright I will get the stuff packed up for you and once you confirm what you have we can go from there.

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Mon May 05, 2014 8:04 pm
by Wolf_Pack
Every package I've had coming my way through Miami got delayed 5-9 days. They are so behind it's unreal. Yep, don't ship unit I confirm contents ;)

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Mon May 05, 2014 8:28 pm
by Bryboon
Sounds good. Let me know when you are ready sir.

Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Thu May 08, 2014 10:35 am
by Wolf_Pack
I have news! The package cleared customs yesterday and I should get it by the 14th-15th. Expect news then ;)

Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Thu May 08, 2014 9:22 pm
by Bryboon
Exciting news indeed. My elves are all boxed up at work waiting to ship!

Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Fri May 09, 2014 8:06 am
by Wolf_Pack
I actually got the Chaos stuff today! Seems like it did not linger at the Montreal ;)

You can send your part.

Michel Hubert-Legault
925 levis, Val-D'or
QC, CANADA
J9P 4B8

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Fri May 09, 2014 10:41 am
by Bryboon
Okay awesome. Everything you thought you were getting you got?

How are we doing it? Both of us are sending lots and are new so same time?

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Fri May 09, 2014 10:44 am
by Wolf_Pack
Because this is a trade, bartertown rules dictate that the lowest rating ships first. I usual ship back when I get a tracking number for forfeit my right to wait until I receive the package and verify it's contents. But due to the size of this trade, I will wait until I receive yours and ship immidiately after.

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 11, 2014 8:03 am
by Wolf_Pack
Are we good?

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 11, 2014 8:04 am
by Wolf_Pack
Are we good?

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 11, 2014 6:07 pm
by Bryboon
Actually no Bartertown rules do NOT state that. They state that it is common practice. I would have no problem shipping first if you had a trade reference of 300 or something. 8 however means you have made 4 trades. That is not comforting to me when I am sending $1200+ of models across the country. I would like us to do same time shipping with delivery conformation and tracking.

Sorry for taking so long to reply. Mothers Day weekend was a "don't you dare ignore me on that thing all weekend" weekend.

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Sun May 11, 2014 6:51 pm
by Wolf_Pack
Fine. If you paid any attention to the feedback given left for me you would notice that I go out of my way to be accommodating. I'll agree to send at the same time on the same day (a member with zero rating), and I will provide you with a picture of the items I am shipping you before we ship on the agreed date. I will expect you to do the same. Sounds reasonable ?

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Mon May 12, 2014 8:49 pm
by Wolf_Pack
do we have an agreement?

Re:Re:Re: [H] Retribution [W] 40K, $$$ (Canada Based)
Sent: Thu May 15, 2014 12:11 am
by Wolf_Pack
This is dragging on too long, can we conclude or not?
[WM Edit - Hurt my eyes]
-Unless a deal is concluded, all offers and unresolved trades expire after 48 hours without proper communication. I won't waste your time, don't waste mine ;)
-In trades, lowest Rating ships first!

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Re: Backout/Deadbeat - Bryboon

Post by mdjones607 » Wed May 21, 2014 5:15 am

When making these you'll want to post in Chronological order. It makes it much easier for everyone to read. How to post to this board: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=103202.
I follow the Golden Rule. Please do the same.
When shipping, please pack items in the same manner you would want them packed when receiving them.
If anything is missing or broken, please state so prior to finalizing a deal.

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