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Pinning help

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:15 pm
by Kaliboi
So I bought a bunch of grey knight termies from another dude and he was kind enough to ship them in a zip lock baggy. All weapons are broken. I tried super glue. But they keep getting falling off during painting. I want to pin them. Any recommendations on where to pick up pins/ pinning material. What are you guys using?
Thanks in advance

David

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:54 pm
by Shane
get a small hand drill, about 4 t06 inches long. should come with bits. I use paper clips for pins. Drill a hole in each item you want to pin together. Try to match them as close as possible. drill about 2 mm in, put super glue on the paper clip and insert in hole, should be set in about 5 to 10 sec, then snip the paper clip so there is about 2mm sticking out. then super glue the rest and attach your other part. I'm betting there are youtube videos out on how to do this

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:07 pm
by Kaliboi
Awesome. Thanks for the advice. I never thought of using paper clips. I assumed there was some fancy "special" material used.

Thanks, seriously
David

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:31 am
by kturock
I use common pins. They're cheap and thinner than paper clips. It helps that my wife sews, I use the ones she's bent.

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:10 am
by Kaliboi
I think these would work better for my current situation. I will definitely give both a shot
Thanks for the input it's been extremely helpful


David

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:33 pm
by MagickalMemories
First: I hope you left a negative reference for the guy who sent you the screwed up stuff, if you weren't told of their correct condition.

That said, I use brass rod for pinning. I used to use paperclips, but I just kind of grew away from them. I like that the brass rod is one piece that I can snip off what I want, rather than have a ton of paper clips sitting around. Space isn't an issue for me, so...

I suggest a Dremel, rather than a pin vice/hand drill for pinning metals. It's faster & easier. Plus, with the higher rpm, the hole tends to be slightly over sized. If you're using a 3/64 pin and a 3/64 drill bit, it's going to be a super-tight fit, and you may not get the pin in.
Pin vice for plastic drilling all the way, of course.

Eric

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:28 pm
by Kaliboi
In hindsight I shouldve left him bad feedback. Not a mistake I will repeat again. I can assure you. Where do you get the brass rods from?

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:35 pm
by kturock
hobby shops even places like Michael's craft stores.

common pins are about the cheapest and they cut easily with a small pair of cutters. I use the same ones to trim models off sprues.

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:05 am
by MagickalMemories
It depends on what you want. As kt says, common pins are CHEAP. My problem with them is that they're so small. I wouldn't use them for anything larger than Malifaux, myself.
If you want cheap, I'd go with paper clips.

You'll find brass rod the easiest at model shops. Typically, places that cater to train enthusiasts are an excellent place to get all the best modelling stuff.

I needed some 1/32 brass rod (for Malifaux pinning) and got a TON of it VERY cheap via feebay.

Eric

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:16 am
by kturock
to small? wtf are you pinning? I've used them for everything from dragons to arms. The length varies depending on whats getting pinned.

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:28 am
by astrosmash
I like the Privateer Press pinning sets- you get a bunch of brass rod and matching size drill bits. MSRP is 5 bucks, but cheaper online- maybe your FLGS has them?

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:59 pm
by MagickalMemories
kturock wrote:to small? wtf are you pinning? I've used them for everything from dragons to arms. The length varies depending on whats getting pinned.
It's not the length, it's the diameter that I'm referring to.
If I'm pinning on a dragon wing, I want good, thick pins holding it on. Making a pin longer doesn't make it stronger. If anything, it makes it weaker & easier to bend.

I pinned an old lead Red Dragon together. My pins weren't very long, but they're THICK. I trust them way more than longer, thinner pins.

Of course, YMMV. For me, that's what I prefer.


Eric

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:46 pm
by kturock
I use several pins as opposed to 1 thick pin. Spreading the force over several thin pins gives more strength than 1 thick one. [more surface area] It also gives it more than 1 support point. [hate to go all science & math on ya, but....]

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:48 pm
by MagickalMemories
kturock wrote:I use several pins as opposed to 1 thick pin. Spreading the force over several thin pins gives more strength than 1 thick one. [more surface area] It also gives it more than 1 support point. [hate to go all science & math on ya, but....]
On larger items, I do, too.
The lead dragon I mentioned? It's just one of those Grenadier "Dragon of the Month" dragons.
I used 3 pins per wing.

Eric

Re: Pinning help

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:59 pm
by Ironhide
MagickalMemories wrote: I suggest a Dremel, rather than a pin vice/hand drill for pinning metals. It's faster & easier. Plus, with the higher rpm, the hole tends to be slightly over sized. If you're using a 3/64 pin and a 3/64 drill bit, it's going to be a super-tight fit, and you may not get the pin in.
Pin vice for plastic drilling all the way, of course.

Eric
A dremel can be overkill even on metal, and could cause more harm than good. I would never recommend a dremel for pinning weapons to hands or other small jobs. As far as pinning material, I use whatever is handy. I have used brass rod, paper clips, and even thumb tacks.