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Chapterhouse Ymgarl Heads are LARGE
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:12 pm
by extropymine
Hey everyone.
This is sort of a "public service" message, because I know around my FLGS the Chapterhouse Studios "Ymgarl Heads" raised a lot of interest. I have recently gotten a hold of some, and I wanted to mention to anyone else who might be looking: they're big.

Not big enough to be useless, but they're NOT the same size as regular Genestealer heads at all. They're probably big enough to use as Lictor heads, though. They make Genestealers look slightly encephalitic.
Anyway, just sort of a heads' up on these. YMMV, but I don't think they work well at all.
Re: Chapterhouse Ymgarl Heads are LARGE
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:18 am
by MagickalMemories
Have you expressed your displeasure to Nick at Chapterhouse?
If so, what was his response?
If not, why not?
Thanks for the PSA.
Eric
Re: Chapterhouse Ymgarl Heads are LARGE
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:15 pm
by Norseman
I don't really see a problem... They look good to me. The basic skull and eyes seem to be about the same size.. they just have more tentacles and cheek than the GW ones.
I'd rather have more material and sculpt down than not enough and have to green stuff.
I don't think this is a PSA it's someone expressing an opinion on a product.
If you don't like it contact the seller and ask for a refund.
Re: Chapterhouse Ymgarl Heads are LARGE
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:50 pm
by MagickalMemories
Although it's not a big enough difference to bother me personally, I can see what the OP's issue is. The actual head itself *is* larger than a regular one. I don't know that I'd have noticed it if there wasn't a side-by-side comparison pic but, since we have it... I can definitely tell.
Eric
Re: Chapterhouse Ymgarl Heads are LARGE
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:55 pm
by extropymine
No, I haven't contacted Chapterhouse. I didn't even think of it, honestly, because I'm not that bent out of shape. I'm not going to ask for a refund because I traded for them, so that would be dishonest.
Like I said in my OP, they're not useless, they're just bigger than I thought they were going to be. Since lots of gamers at my FLGS were talking about the Ymgarl heads like they were going to be God's gift to Tyranid players, I expect I'm not the only person who had high hopes. Since there isn't one on the CH site, I thought I'd show a direct side-by-side photo. Back at the FLGS, people (including me) were thinking you could simply combine the 6 CH heads with 2 tentacle heads from the sprue and call it a squad of 8 Ymgarl, and you can't, or at least not without some moderate modelling work.
I'm not saying don't get them, I'm saying be aware. They're large, and they're not as easily swappable as we hoped.
Re: Chapterhouse Ymgarl Heads are LARGE
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:50 pm
by MagickalMemories
Sure. I understood your point.
Hope it didn't come across like I was challenging you. : )
The only part I think you're mistaken on is the mixing of heads. Truthfully, I don't see any difference now than if they were exactly the same size. I mean, if they were the same size & you mixed them with the GW tentacle heads, the CHS stuff would stuff stand out just as much, I think. With the tentacles on both heads being so different, it'll definitely be noticeable. I don't think the size difference is going to make them stand out more.
So, really, I think they're as interchangeable now as they'd have been at the same size, myself.
Eric
Re: Chapterhouse Ymgarl Heads are LARGE
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:25 pm
by extropymine
Oh, no worries. Actually, it wasn't until just now I saw your second post, which you were probably posting as I was still writing. It may have seemed that I ignored it, when in truth I didn't see it.
You're right that they still would have looked odd even if they were the exact same size, but I had thought some really minor greenstuff modifications (eyebrow ridges, bump at the back of the head, etc) would blend them in. With the size difference, we're out of the realm of "minor" and into more serious modelling, either to bulk out the plastic heads or file down the CH ones.
At any rate, perhaps my revised message to the community should be "they're larger than normal genestealer heads, so be aware. Also, if you're going to field them as Ymgarls, you're probably going to need two sets unless you're a practiced modeller, since the size difference compounds the appearance difference."
Re: Chapterhouse Ymgarl Heads are LARGE
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:50 am
by MagickalMemories
Nah. No need to revise. You're fine.
It's an opinion. It can't be wrong. At WORST, it can be misinformed, but that's about it (which is not the case here).
It's just, you know, the internet. lol You can't talk about anything without a half dozen other people feeling entitled to express their opinions on whatever you're talking about AND on your opinion, as well. lol
Take care.
Eric