2012 BartertownMembers challenge

[jul]

agree also with JBurch, i tend to paint first the models and then decide which type of bases they are getting...
Points awarded only for fully done models (base included)

J.

[psychobob]

I personally wouldn't consider my own models done until the bases were complete.

[CMSheats]

Ya, you guys are right I think. Basing them should probably be part of this. It doesn't have to have to be fancy or anything, but has to be based to count. So that makes us all tied back up at zero!

Chris

[Gaijin18]

to put my two cents in

I personally do not think of a model as done until its based,

As to army lists Id say no as I too am going to be working on a bit of this and that at the same time/

[spiralingcadaver]

Okay, just checking, in that case, what counts as a finished model?

3 colors?

2 types of material on the base?

Varnished?

What about things without bases or with clear bases?

Just a little annoyed b/c in the case of my mini, it was a test model that I'm repainting, so will never "count" and I don't want to come up against other qualifiers, and I'd rather not have more surprises.

It also feels like "no base means unfinished" vs. "i don't want to allow extra points for people who want to set goals for themselves" is a double-standard* (one rewarding completion, the other not). I guess I feel like it should be one or the other.

...also, is 5 minis really that hard to stick with (re: army choices)?


*is that the right word? I dunno, contradictory.

[jul]

for the base part, if the model is manufactured with one, then i think it should be done as a standard, some exceptions might occur. best exemple: the marine land speeder comes with a clear base, so no need to paint it... but standard marines glued on clear acrylique bases don't stand finished. a good referal might be what is considered painted in competition (GD rules, Gencon crystalbrush...etc)

the 3 colors stuff is tricky. exemple if you are painting in camaieux (although i doubt that anybody is crazy enough to do that at an army level...) or painting stuff that needs one or 2 colours to be completed (most of epic infantry stuff)

i will say a model is finished when it is painted (raw material covered) and based adequately with at least the manufacturer's base.

the varnished point is irrelevant as it doesn't add a colour to a model but more a protection or a technique in case of weathering.

for the army list part, my point of view is that not everybody is actually playing all the games they got models for. for them, getting an army list might be more of an issue than actually painting the models....

The goal is to paint models and getting motivated to do so (i think), it is not a competition about quality of the painting but more as an 'Anonymous Painters in Distress' group meeting where everyone 'supports' eachother, like " i suck, i haven't score a point this month, i need to paint something otherwise spiralingcadaver is going to past me.."

i go back to painting...

Cheers

J

[psychobob]

for the base part, if the model is manufactured with one, then i think it should be done as a standard, some exceptions might occur. best exemple: the marine land speeder comes with a clear base, so no need to paint it... but standard marines glued on clear acrylique bases don't stand finished. a good referal might be what is considered painted in competition (GD rules, Gencon crystalbrush...etc)

the 3 colors stuff is tricky. exemple if you are painting in camaieux (although i doubt that anybody is crazy enough to do that at an army level...) or painting stuff that needs one or 2 colours to be completed (most of epic infantry stuff)

i will say a model is finished when it is painted (raw material covered) and based adequately with at least the manufacturer's base.

the varnished point is irrelevant as it doesn't add a colour to a model but more a protection or a technique in case of weathering.

for the army list part, my point of view is that not everybody is actually playing all the games they got models for. for them, getting an army list might be more of an issue than actually painting the models....

The goal is to paint models and getting motivated to do so (i think), it is not a competition about quality of the painting but more as an 'Anonymous Painters in Distress' group meeting where everyone 'supports' eachother, like " i suck, i haven't score a point this month, i need to paint something otherwise spiralingcadaver is going to past me.."

i go back to painting...

Cheers

J

I concur good sir!

[dreamsinsleep]

Here's a hive guard I painted for my tyranid army.



Another angle

[CMSheats]

That is a great way to put it Jul.

Ok, so Dreamsleep gets two points for his model I believe.

Ogres, Ogrun, Trolls, Light Warjacks, 15mm Cavalry, 6mm large vehicles = 2pts.

So the points are updated

[Gaijin18]

I would think if it comes with a flying base/clear base why base it?

As to colors,,,who is to say you arent using a limited pallet of 2 colors or something

varnishing I would think is up to the painter as not everyone does that,I would but Im out of flat coat.

Again I am thinking of this more as fun than a serious competition sure someone is going to come out on top,someone at the bottom but the point is to encourage each other to get crap done.

[MagickalMemories]

Just a suggestion; The rules for the 2011 staff challenge worked very well for them. You can't go wrong by using them or the 2012 versions... or basing your own rules off of them.


Eric

[athelu]

I would be willing to go in on this. I have about 3 armies that really need some love at this point - as well as my box of Super Dungeon Explore.

[spiralingcadaver]

Just a suggestion; The rules for the 2011 staff challenge worked very well for them. You can't go wrong by using them or the 2012 versions... or basing your own rules off of them.


Eric

Either way, I really would like something resembling an agreed-upon set of rules. If this is just "show off your minis," then there are plenty of venues for that.

[CMSheats]

athelu has been added to the list. And I think just doing what they do in the staff challenge is a great idea. That's what we are basing it off of anyways. Thanks!

Chris

[HarlequinZero]

As the person running the staff challenge I'd suggest someone here needs to take control of this and put up a set of rules. If you want to copy the 2011 or 2012 staff rules go for it. (I'd suggest the 2012 point system w/o the resolution challenge as keeping track of army lists among this many people would be nuts. Also, I say 2012 points as smaller scale stuff was worth too much in 2011 I think.) Just someone grab it by the reigns and run with it. With this many people as participants or potential participants, putting every decision about the rules to committee will pretty much derail any chance of this working.