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Help! My Half Elf Is Pregnant!

Post by astrosmash » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:01 am

The 11 Strangest Questions From The D&D 'Sage Advice' Column...

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/1 ... s-dragons/

Reminded me of an argument I had back in AD&D 2nd edition- "can a whip kill you" ?
I still don't believe it's possible even though it did do 1-2d (if I remember correctly)
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Post by DarkSoul » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:27 pm

Thats funny,, that's the first Dragon Magazine i ever purchased.. it caught my eye because of the cover...

and yes a whip could easily kill you.. whips when used correctly will rend flesh off your body quite easily... but one of the bad things about D&D and a constant complaint from a lot of people is that armor made it harder for you to be hit and not reduce the amount of damage you took from combat.. which is what armor really did..

you could use a whip on a man in plate mail all day and the worst thing it would do to him is really irritate him from the pounding headache he got from the crack against the armor.

stupid fact... the tip of a properly used whip breaks the sound bearer.. that crack you here is actually a small sonic boom..
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Post by astrosmash » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:26 am

I'm having flashbacks...
If any normal guy was sentenced to say 10 lashings, they would
not die. A low level character has low HP so conceivably they could die from a few hits from said whip. Additionally you could kill a wolf or some other low level mob with ONE hit from a whip- completely absurd.
I would also like to introduce into evidence, gum-chewing child caning in Singapore and that one scene from Midnight Express.
I need to email my old DM and get this controversy going again LOL
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Post by DarkSoul » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:09 pm

your quite right 10 lashings would not normally kill some one.. but i don't think they would be trying to kill you with 10 lashes.. but it did happen.. slavers would often beat slaves to death with whips...

but also you can look at it this way...

a whip used in battle is not the same as a whip used for punishment.. combat whips often had sharp barbs attached to them. I've also been told that they would soak them in resin and then run them through broken glass, or metal shards, whips were often used in gladiatorial combat not so much for the devastating attacks but from the amount of blood that a strike from a whip could cause..... the combat would go on for longer periods with lots of blood... also the handle of the whip made a awesome flail for close combat.. this was brought into street fighting and called a black jack.. and trust me you don't want to be hit with one... it will break bones and the back of your skull with very little force.

then of course you have the oriental chain whips.. and if anyone ever came at me with one of those i would run like hell...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcPr-AP1Vss

IDK.. but i do know you can be killed by whips... I'm not trying to start up a debate about it.. just providing information on the subject... as with most games though a certain suspension of belief or reality has to be taken in account while playing them..

and remember something else about D&D.. hit points really were not a measure of damage you could take.. it was a measure of how much punishment you could take before being rendered unable to fight or knocked unconcious.. and trust me.. 10 licks with a whip.. and your strongest MMA fighter would be hard pressed to do much ...
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Re: Help! My Half Elf Is Pregnant!

Post by astrosmash » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:10 pm

fair enough...
laughing my a-- off, seriously
I have to concede, nicely done.

As kids we took 0 hp to be dead, and that opens up a whole
new can of worms. Now I really need to get in touch with my old DM!
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Post by DarkSoul » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:57 pm

Once again..

I am king of the geeks... LMAO
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Re: Help! My Half Elf Is Pregnant!

Post by MagickalMemories » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:54 pm

Speaking of retro...

How *DID* you guys handle HP?
I always (and still do) use the rule that 0 is unconscious and you can go to negative CON before you're dead.
So, you're knocked out at 0 and, if you keep taking damage from something, you can bleed out until you hit negative your Con (So, -18 for an 18 Con), at which point the bucket has been kicked.

I take that back. Now, if they hit exactly 0, I let them make a Con check to stay conscious (I lifted this and adapted it from 3.x).

Oh... and my current D&D game is an AD&D 2e game, BTW. LOL


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Re: Help! My Half Elf Is Pregnant!

Post by kturock » Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:28 am

as far as whips and whippings, read the Sharpe's books. The hero almost gets whipped to death in the 1st book He was sentenced to 100 lashings and was flayed to the bone. Blood loss, shock and infection where the actual killers.

I have and always have hated the hit-point system in games.
I prefer wound levels, where damage has effects.
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Re: Help! My Half Elf Is Pregnant!

Post by DarkSoul » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:53 am

Eric,

Thats what we do too.. well in 2en edition we did -10.. you would keep bleeding unless you made a con check to stabilize in 3.5 edition and now in pathfinder we use critical tables which can cause you to take additional damage each round due to blood loss.. we also use perm wounds as well.. those can effect dex con or str and can give negative modifiers to social situations.. or positive ones if your using intimidate.. Damage to a stat can only be healed by magic.. if done quickly enough cure spells can fix the issue but if its not possible to be cured in a short period of time , no casters or what ever.. then the HP recover as usual but the Dex or Str loss is permanent unless fixed by a regenerate spell. this is played as severed tendons.. horrific scars.. or if its bad enough a loss of limb or deformity.. we play D&D with more of a ability and RPG environment rather than hack and slash!
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