Bartertown.com

Well glacius and I had a deal. He agreed to send me a MO but never sent it. I sent a PM asking if he sent. He read the message and did not respond. I left a negative feedback as a warning to others and he retaliated and left a negative because and only cuase I left negative for him. The thing that made my spidey senses tingle was his always pushing for rush delivery and simul sending.

IMO just reading his feedback says alot but I have included the PM's for good measure.

Is it possible to get this feedback removed from my record?

Here is a copy of each respective feedback and our PM's

My feedback left for him:
Bad 02/26/08 19:22:08 ??? gianmh@gmail.com ( 14 ) kbolster54321@yahoo.com CA California, United States of America 66509
Comments: Agreed to a deal, told me the MO would go out. I waited for two weeks. I sent a PM that was moved from MY Outbox to Sent Box asking if he was still intersted. Another week later I got no response. I feel this is a broken deal and if he had just let me know in a timely mater I would not have to leave this feedback. It's a common curtousy thing really. If he can't simply say he's not interested then what is he going to do during other deals. Be Warned.

His Feedback for me:
Bad 02/26/08 22:08:58 kbolster54321@yahoo.com ( -6 ) gianmh@gmail.com , United States of America 66514
Comments: Left a bad reference and we did not even exchange any product, or funds Watch out for this guy.

PM's Sent to Him
From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:25 pm
Subject: OK
Hi,

I basically have an assembled Battalion and I may include 3 yhettis depending on what you have.

I am looking for fanatics, Orc Savages, spear chuckas, ushabti (low), Boar Boys Weapon arms, Squighoppers
Thanks
Kevin


From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:06 am
Subject: Re: OK
glacius wrote:
I dont have anything so i will buy your entire lot


$110 shipped and I can only except Postal MO's. If that's okay my address is:

Kevin Bolster
1936 Stump Rd.
Marcellus NY 13108

just added the address becuase it's Sat Morning and if you wanted to run out quick you may be able to get in the mail earlier. I would get it earlier and be able to get your stuff to you earlier. But there is no pressure.

Kevin

From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: OK
How bout we meet half way and say $102?

Thanks
Kevin

From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:33 am
Subject: Re: OK
Deal then.

Sorry but I don't have an extra rulebook or OK book. Please send MO to...

Kevin Bolster
PO box 170
130 E. Main St.
Elbridge NY 13060

Thanks,
Kevin

From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:17 am
Subject: Re: OK
I would prefer MO,. No chance of them bouncing.

Thanks,
Kevin

From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: OK
hey,

Sorry I can't simul send. I did look at your e-Bay feedback but that's not the same as B-town. I very well couldn't leave feedback on e-Bay if our trade didn't go well. And a feedback of 4 really wouldn't stop you from just opening a new name if your went south. I have been here long enough that, while I bet you are honest, I know better.
Sorry if it's a deal breaker but I have to protect myself.

Please LMK,
Kevin

From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:30 am
Subject: Re: OK
I really need money order. That way there's no chance of it bouncing as it's prepaid.

Yes I will send priority with Delivery confirmation.

Kevin

From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:51 am
Subject: Re: OK
These are assembled well. No huge gaps but some mold lines might need cleaning up. 2 Bulls are primed black and come with rare earth magnets imbeded in their left arm so that they can fitted with fist or xtra weapon.

My address is...

Kevin Bolster
PO box 170
130 E. Main St.
Elbridge NY 13060

It's my work address. It's an elementary school that I work at. You can look me up I believe the school website is jecsd.org? Jordan Elbridge Central School District. If you want.

Thanks
Kevin

From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:05 am
Subject: Re: OK
Sorry but I have no clue. I boght a ton of all different sizes from a friend and used a couple of them. Works great though.

BTW what's your address? I will get stuff packed up so I can get it in the mail ASAP.

From: kbolster12345 ( 114 )
To: glacius
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:56 pm
Subject: Re: OK
Hey,

Have you sent the MO and what is your addy.

thanks
Kevin

His PM's To Me
From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:47 am
Subject: Re: OK
I dont have anything so i will buy your entire lot


From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:00 am
Subject: Re: OK
Can u do $95 shipped priority mail

Inbox :: Message
From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:45 am
Subject: Re: OK
Ok I can do $102 but is there anyway u can do paypal so we can expedite the deal

From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:18 am
Subject: Re: OK
Ok shipped $60, would u happen to have a rulebook for sale or an ogre army book

From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:35 am
Subject: Re: OK
Is there anyway u can accept paypal

From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:53 am
Subject: Re: OK
I can understand that. Is it check ok and can we ship simultaneously, check my feedback in my sig

From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: OK
Could we ship simultaneously so i could get them quicker, did u see my feedback

Inbox :: Message
From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: OK
Not a deal breaker just in a rush. i get paid feb 13 so i can ship the check to you priority mail(3day )

let me know and you will be shipping the items priority correct

From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:33 am
Subject: Re: OK
Money order is not a problem, thanks. I will let u know when i put it in the mail.

From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: OK
Ok will send MO, no prob
also what condition are these in assembled, are they assembled well not too much glue etc etc

and please confirm your address for me again

From: glacius ( -6 )
To: kbolster12345
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: OK
Ok will send MO, no prob
also what condition are these in assembled, are they assembled well not too much glue etc etc

and please confirm your address for me again

The mods will remove it and most likly ban the other fellow or suspend his account
Cheers

Lin does not like it when he gets PMs from people who do not share the whole story. It makes him think they are trying to trick him into acting before he knows the entire situation. He likes it even less when he gets the whole story from the accused party's posting of the PM log and it reveals the accuser of being very much in the wrong.
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Of course, why I post that in the 3rd person is beyond my capacity...

Still, unless Glacius has a VERY GOOD EXPLANATION for this I sense a Banhammer in his future.

Linrandir wrote:
Lin does not like it when he gets PMs from people who do not share the whole story. It makes him think they are trying to trick him into acting before he knows the entire situation. He likes it even less when he gets the whole story from the accused party's posting of the PM log and it reveals the accuser of being very much in the wrong.
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Of course, why I post that in the 3rd person is beyond my capacity...

Still, unless Glacius has a VERY GOOD EXPLANATION for this I sense a Banhammer in his future.

Isn't the whole story there? I believe it's a collection of all the PM's. There were quite a few. Is it confusing because of the way I have organized it. My PM's to him and his to me instead of cronological order?

Maybe all that 3rd person stuff is throwing me off?

I am tired and need things put simple right now. Thanks

Wow, I'm glad I read this. he was interested in my Ogres as well! Thanks for the tip!

kbolster12345 wrote:

Linrandir wrote:
Lin does not like it when he gets PMs from people who do not share the whole story. It makes him think they are trying to trick him into acting before he knows the entire situation. He likes it even less when he gets the whole story from the accused party's posting of the PM log and it reveals the accuser of being very much in the wrong.
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Of course, why I post that in the 3rd person is beyond my capacity...

Still, unless Glacius has a VERY GOOD EXPLANATION for this I sense a Banhammer in his future.

Isn't the whole story there? I believe it's a collection of all the PM's. There were quite a few. Is it confusing because of the way I have organized it. My PM's to him and his to me instead of cronological order?

Maybe all that 3rd person stuff is throwing me off?

I am tired and need things put simple right now. Thanks

I don't believe he was upset with you. It looks like Glacius was attempting subtrefuge with Lin as well.

Sheesh. Unscrupulous.

Odd thing - I just completed a Deal with glacius. Paid quickly, completely and without any prompting from me. I was going to leave him a Good Ref (as soon as he confirmed that he had received the AT-43 rulebook sent). Looks like I won't be able to now.

Just a shot in the dark here but I would wager he spent the money that was ear marked for the ogres on the AT-43 stuff? Just speculationg and I probably shouldn't do that.

I am glad that your transaction went better than mine. I wasn't really all that upset about him backing out it was more that he didn't tell me about it. Then I got thinking about how there was some presure to simul send and stuff. Also if I was someone else (maybe someone with less feedback than myself) and was about to trade with him I would want to know about this sort of thing so that I could make an informed decission. Hence the feedback I left. I really don't like leaving Neg feedback but I really thought appropriate.

Where he really got in trouble was when he left feedback for me. And that ruffled a few of my feathers.

kbolster12345 wrote:
Isn't the whole story there? I believe it's a collection of all the PM's. There were quite a few. Is it confusing because of the way I have organized it. My PM's to him and his to me instead of cronological order?

Maybe all that 3rd person stuff is throwing me off?

I am tired and need things put simple right now. Thanks

Not being in chronological order did throw me off a bit, but AdamSouza is correct. I was not directing my ire towards you. My apologies for the lack of clarity.

Also - I deleted two double-posts I found in here.

If you get a chance to post it, I'd love to read his message to you Lin.

glacius wrote:I was left a bad reference by kbolster54321@yahoo.com, We never
exchanged product or money and I never even responded to his queries
about a deal after our initial discussion, I would like to know if there are any repercussions for
leaving bad feedback on a deal that never went through and could you
erase the feedback he left for me.

Grammar and punctuation are your friends. Glacius has been informed of his pending ban; though given everything the delay is really to let everyone ELSE know he's about to get booted.

Really just another example of people not reading the rules. So much so that he really thought he was in the right apparently when he contacted Lin.
If people would just take the 5 minutes that it takes to check out the rules so many of our headaches could be avoided...

MEDEVL wrote:Really just another example of people not reading the rules. So much so that he really thought he was in the right apparently when he contacted Lin.
If people would just take the 5 minutes that it takes to check out the rules so many of our headaches could be avoided...

No, my friend. He was trying to pull one over on Lin again.
Read the guy's PM again, below, and note the section I emboldened and changed color on:

glacius wrote:I was left a bad reference by kbolster54321@yahoo.com, We never exchanged product or money and I never even responded to his queries about a deal after our initial discussion, I would like to know if there are any repercussions for
leaving bad feedback on a deal that never went through and could you
erase the feedback he left for me.

Never responded to his queries after their initial discussion?
The guy agreed to the trade and SAID he was sending the money out.

He was outright lying.

The only queries he never responded to were the "Where's my money?" queries.

Eric

Never lie to Lin.. he always finds out.