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This has been going on for about a month and a half now, Malus Darkblade has been giving me the run around on a trade we were supposed to make. I made an offer on his listing and we came to an agreement. Although he stated that he would send first, he would not. I took it on good faith (and also since I was new to Bartertown) and went ahead and shipped my half of the trade. Malus Darkblade suggests that he has sent two packages to me recently, but has provided no proof what so ever, and now, no longer replies to my messages. All I want is to complete the deal, either by receiving the promised goods, or by the return of my figures. Thanks,
-Patrick

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Sent: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:50 pm
by guynamedFleck
This is getting a bit ridiculous. It has been nearly 2 weeks since you supposedly sent a second package, and still nothing. You have provided no proof of shipping. This is not what I signed on for when agreeing to a trade. please respond.
-Patrick

Malus Darkblade wrote:Im going to send a second package since im not sure what happened to the First one. I have a second avatar, and some more warlocks and to make up for the problem i will throw in a few extra models.

* Quote Malus Darkblade

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Sent: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:20 pm
by Malus Darkblade
Im going to send a second package since im not sure what happened to the First one. I have a second avatar, and some more warlocks and to make up for the problem i will throw in a few extra models.
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Sent: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:15 pm
by guynamedFleck
Still confused. You haven't sent me any kind of delivery confirmation and I have no package from you. please clear this up, thanks,
-Patrick

Malus Darkblade wrote:Ok that's just odd. What was it i sent to you for the librarian and the Emperor Champion (Tho i thought i was getting a terminator librarian..) i just want to double check i sent out the right things.

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Sent: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:05 pm
by guynamedFleck
The agreement was,

Your Sending
-1 Eldar Avatar
-3 Warlocks with Blades

I'm sending
-1 LE Black Templar Emperors Champion
-1 SM Librarian w/ force staff and plasma pistol

I've sent my half and received nothing yet.
-Patrick


Malus Darkblade wrote:Ok that's just odd. What was it i sent to you for the librarian and the Emperor Champion (Tho i thought i was getting a terminator librarian..) i just want to double check i sent out the right things.

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Sent: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:24 pm
by Malus Darkblade
Ok that's just odd. What was it i sent to you for the librarian and the Emperor Champion (Tho i thought i was getting a terminator librarian..) i just want to double check i sent out the right things.
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Sent: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:44 pm
by guynamedFleck
It's now been 2 weeks since I shipped your package. Still no confirmation that you have sent your half of the trade. Please respond.
-Patrick

Malus Darkblade wrote:

guynamedFleck wrote:I went ahead and sent your package on good faith that you will complete the trade (I haven't received any response from you lately). I was unable to put delivery confirmation on the package as it was international, but the customs form # is LC055158238US. Again sorry about the confusion, I look forward to completing the trade. thanks,
-Patrick



Ya sorry i dropped the ball on getting back to ya! let me just double check to make sure it was sent (I have everything recorded by model sent)

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Sent: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:07 pm
by Malus Darkblade

guynamedFleck wrote:I went ahead and sent your package on good faith that you will complete the trade (I haven't received any response from you lately). I was unable to put delivery confirmation on the package as it was international, but the customs form # is LC055158238US. Again sorry about the confusion, I look forward to completing the trade. thanks,
-Patrick



Ya sorry i dropped the ball on getting back to ya! let me just double check to make sure it was sent (I have everything recorded by model sent)
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Sent: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:24 am
by guynamedFleck
Any update on the arrival of the package? It should be there any day now. thanks,
-Patrick
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Sent: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:02 pm
by guynamedFleck
I went ahead and sent your package on good faith that you will complete the trade (I haven't received any response from you lately). I was unable to put delivery confirmation on the package as it was international, but the customs form # is LC055158238US. Again sorry about the confusion, I look forward to completing the trade. thanks,
-Patrick
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Sent: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:55 am
by guynamedFleck
If you are still on for this trade, I will mail your package out today. let me know. thank,
-Patrick
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Sent: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:14 am
by guynamedFleck

Malus Darkblade wrote:

guynamedFleck wrote:I'm assuming you have sent the package, but do you have a Confirmation # for me? thanks,
-Patrick



have you sent? since we are sending at the same time are we not? i have more ref's.



The original agreement was that I would send as soon as you give me a Confirmation number. I'm a bit confused as you said you would mail last saturday. We actually have the same number of ref's at present (I'm awaiting ref's from 2 other trades). Thanks,
-Patrick

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Sent: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:29 am
by Malus Darkblade

guynamedFleck wrote:I'm assuming you have sent the package, but do you have a Confirmation # for me? thanks,
-Patrick



have you sent? since we are sending at the same time are we not? i have more ref's.
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Sent: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:08 am
by guynamedFleck
I'm assuming you have sent the package, but do you have a Confirmation # for me? thanks,
-Patrick
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Sent: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:17 pm
by guynamedFleck
Have you had a chance to get the package in the mail yet? thanks,
-Patrick


Malus Darkblade wrote:

guynamedFleck wrote:

guynamedFleck wrote:I'd be willing to trade the LE Emperors Champion and the Librarian for your Avatar and the 3 Warlocks. Let me know, Thanks
-Patrick



Are you interested in the trade? If not, I am still interested in buying the 3 warlocks for $15. thanks,
-Patrick



Yes i am sorry it took me so long to get back to ya! i can send out tomorrow my address is


K Hawkins
6552 nolan street
Burnaby,Bc
v5h4b6

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Sent: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:48 am
by guynamedFleck

Malus Darkblade wrote:oh that works. As long as you arnt roguemarket there should be no problem



Nope, no Roguemarket. I'll get your package in the mail as soon as I get a confirmation number from you. Thanks again,
-Patrick
---
Patrick Fleckenstein
6928 Buckingham Pl
Cincinnati, OH 45227
USA

* Quote Malus Darkblade

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Sent: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:30 am
by Malus Darkblade

guynamedFleck wrote:

Malus Darkblade wrote:
well you apparently don't have any trade's on this board....Do you have any Reference's?



You can check me out on ebay, guynamedFleck. I have 89 all positive feedback. If that's no good, i could look up some people that I have traded with previously on dakkadakka. thanks,
-Patrick



oh that works. As long as you arnt roguemarket there should be no problem
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Sent: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:02 pm
by guynamedFleck

Malus Darkblade wrote:
well you apparently don't have any trade's on this board....Do you have any Reference's?



You can check me out on ebay, guynamedFleck. I have 89 all positive feedback. If that's no good, i could look up some people that I have traded with previously on dakkadakka. thanks,
-Patrick

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Sent: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:31 pm
by Malus Darkblade

guynamedFleck wrote:

Malus Darkblade wrote:Yes i am sorry it took me so long to get back to ya! i can send out tomorrow my address is
K Hawkins
6552 nolan street
Burnaby,Bc
v5h4b6



Alright, just to confirm,

Your Sending
-1 Eldar Avatar
-3 Warlocks with Blades

I'm sending
-1 LE Black Templar Emperors Champion
-1 SM Librarian w/ force staff and plasma pistol

My Address is
Patrick Fleckenstein
6928 Buckingham Place
Cincinnati, OH 45227

We'll each pay to ship with delivery confirmation.

Thanks, I'll ship as soon as I get a confirmation number,
-Patrick



well you apparently don't have any trade's on this board....Do you have any Reference's?
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Sent: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:26 pm
by guynamedFleck

Malus Darkblade wrote:Yes i am sorry it took me so long to get back to ya! i can send out tomorrow my address is
K Hawkins
6552 nolan street
Burnaby,Bc
v5h4b6



Alright, just to confirm,

Your Sending
-1 Eldar Avatar
-3 Warlocks with Blades

I'm sending
-1 LE Black Templar Emperors Champion
-1 SM Librarian w/ force staff and plasma pistol

My Address is
Patrick Fleckenstein
6928 Buckingham Place
Cincinnati, OH 45227

We'll each pay to ship with delivery confirmation.

Thanks, I'll ship as soon as I get a confirmation number,
-Patrick

* Quote Malus Darkblade

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Sent: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:11 pm
by Malus Darkblade

guynamedFleck wrote:

guynamedFleck wrote:I'd be willing to trade the LE Emperors Champion and the Librarian for your Avatar and the 3 Warlocks. Let me know, Thanks
-Patrick



Are you interested in the trade? If not, I am still interested in buying the 3 warlocks for $15. thanks,
-Patrick



Yes i am sorry it took me so long to get back to ya! i can send out tomorrow my address is


K Hawkins
6552 nolan street
Burnaby,Bc
v5h4b6
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Sent: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:05 pm
by guynamedFleck

guynamedFleck wrote:I'd be willing to trade the LE Emperors Champion and the Librarian for your Avatar and the 3 Warlocks. Let me know, Thanks
-Patrick



Are you interested in the trade? If not, I am still interested in buying the 3 warlocks for $15. thanks,
-Patrick
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Sent: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:02 am
by guynamedFleck

Malus Darkblade wrote:Well i am interested in your

1 limited edition emperors champ
1 Librarian w/ force staff and plasma pistol



I'd be willing to trade the LE Emperors Champion and the Librarian for your Avatar and the 3 Warlocks. Let me know, Thanks
-Patrick

* Quote Malus Darkblade

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Sent: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:56 am
by Malus Darkblade
Well i am interested in your

1 limited edition emperors champ
1 Librarian w/ force staff and plasma pistol
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Sent: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:38 am
by guynamedFleck

Malus Darkblade wrote:Are you looking to buy or trade?



I'd prefer to trade, but I don't have anything on your want list. Here is a list of what I am currently trading, viewtopic.php?f=8&t=92162
Let me know if there is anything you'd want. If not, than I'm up for buying them. Thanks,
-Patrick

* Quote Malus Darkblade

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Sent: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:28 pm
by Malus Darkblade
Are you looking to buy or trade?
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Sent: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:37 pm
by guynamedFleck
I'd be interested in the warlocks. let me know, thanks,
-Patrick

His last login was 9/15. Was your last PM read? Also, have you tried contacting him via e-mail?

reegsk wrote:His last login was 9/15. Was your last PM read? Also, have you tried contacting him via e-mail?

He has not read the last 2 PM's that I sent to him. He has also hidden his email so my only form of contact is via PM. Thanks,
-Patrick

Were the last two PMs sent before or after the 15th of September?

Ironhide wrote:Were the last two PMs sent before or after the 15th of September?

It would appear, both were sent after (with the first being sent on the 15th). But the fact that no package had been received was known well before the 15th (2 weeks after the 2nd package was supposedly sent). Thanks,
-Patrick

He hasn't "hidden" his email. They aren't visible to non-staff.

Eric

But it is an option on your profile to allow members to contact you though email (hence "hidden").
Sorry I didn't expect to go on the chopping block simply for posting in the bad traders forum.
thanks,
-Patrick

MagickalMemories wrote:He hasn't "hidden" his email. They aren't visible to non-staff.

Eric

You are not on the chopping block. You have done everything right. I was asking to see if he had gotten the last two PMs, which he hasn't. I have sent him a PM asking him to look into this. I have also asked an admin to send him a e-mail inquiring about this. Since they have that ability. Hopefully he will reply via PM or posting in here about this.

guynamedFleck wrote:But it is an option on your profile to allow members to contact you though email (hence "hidden").
Sorry I didn't expect to go on the chopping block simply for posting in the bad traders forum.
thanks,
-Patrick

MagickalMemories wrote:He hasn't "hidden" his email. They aren't visible to non-staff.

Eric

As IH said... No chopping block.
I was short of time, so not mincing words & only speaking with the facts.

I have (a little) more time right now, so I'll elaborate.
Although you have the ability to check a box to show your email address, it never does.
For example, Fleck, you may be allowing people to see your email address. Know who can? Admins... and maybe Moderators (I don't recall off-hand)... but nobody else. Plus, those who can see it now could see it even if you chose NOT to make it visible. It's a security thing.

For the record (and this is an FYI, not an attack). You don't need to be that defensive with staff, generally. If we didn't specifically say you've done something wrong, then you're fine. My post, for example, was a simple statement. If I was calling you out on something, I'd have made it clear that I was.
...again, that's NOT an attack. Just clarifying and sharing some info. I see you're a newer trader here, so you may not have had time to experience that yet. I just wanted to spell it out better, in hopes of setting you at ease.

Take care.
Eric

So no update on this? I still haven't heard from Malus and he has yet to read the messages I had sent him. Do I have any options? thanks,
-Patrick

I haven't heard back from him. You can report him to the USPS and FBI for mail fraud. Their links are in my sig.

You give him a negative reference here??

starslayer wrote:You give him a negative reference here??

I was holding off hoping that it was all a big misunderstanding, but I guess that I will go ahead and do that.
-Patrick

Well i got my account back thanks to Magical helping me deal with a small Hacking problem -_- (ya i lost all my info go figure) SO now i got all my Info\so on back im sending the part of the trade he never got any then some to make up for it)

This is highly encouraging! Good to see your intent is to complete the deal!