Bartertown.com

Note: I dont think I was horribly wronged here, nor do I feel that this person should be punished. This post is only about letting others know that the trader in question has done this on more then one occasion. Most people still give him a decent feedback rating which doesnt help any of us but if you take the time to read through them all, poor/slow shipping seems to be his forte.

This bothers me to have to write because I will admit I got my models but it was harder then it should have been and envolved atleast one blatant lie more on how i felt about this Here. It also seems to be a common theme for this trader so I wanted to save others the possible hassel and avoid any issues. I think being local was lucky because when I finally motivated him into shipping it didnt take much longer for them to arrive. If it had been international the deal could have taken well over 2 months to complete factoring in actual shipping times.

More comments based on what you will read at the end of the wall-o-pm's.

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:02 pm
by Ruskin
I would be intereted in hearing about your Chaos stuff if you have a chance. Im most interested in Termies and a Soul Grinder if you have them. Let me know the condition and what you are willing to accept in cash.

Thanks.

Subject: Getting out of the hobby sale
donkeycannon wrote:I have decided to condense my massive collection down to 3-4 armies (i have about 16 on the go) Most of these are unpainted.

I am selling off my Eldar, Tyranids, Iron Hands, chaos marines, skaven.

I'm not listing everything in the armies at this point I dont have the time but I have at least 1 of every unit.

I will trade in your favour but cash is preferred

I am looking for an Ork Stompa, Battle Wagon, Mega Armoured Nobs, Shoota Boy arms, Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun.


Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:50 pm
by donkeycannon
I have a terminator conversion lot that has about 12 of the loyalist terminators and lots of chaos terminator parts they are in various forms of assembly and conversion, not my greatest work. they were supposed to be part of a fallen army. id accept 25 bucks for them all. I just want to get rid of them, i will include a bag of bits.

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:27 am
by Ruskin
Sounds good to me, is paypal acceptable? If so let me know an address and Ill get you the money. I live in whitby, im not sure where in TO you are but its probably just easier to drop them in the mail.

Thanks,
Matt
Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:34 pm
by Ruskin
Hey, I didnt hear back from you about a paypal address so I was wondering if those models were still available?

Let me know when you can.
Thanks,
Matt

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:12 pm
by donkeycannon
they are available, shipping is 5 bucks. you can send the money to **I didn’t know if I should include his paypal addy in this report**

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:23 pm
by Ruskin
Payment Sent.

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:36 pm
by Ruskin
Hi David,

Haven't heard from you since I sent payment last friday. Was wondering if you had a chance to ship those models yet or not?

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:20 am
by donkeycannon
yes they are on there way

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:05 pm
by Ruskin
David,

No package yet, but I was wondering if at all possible could you leave some feedback from my end since every little bit helps me build a better rep? Assuming you were happy with how I handled my end of the deal.

Thanks,
Matt

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:21 pm
by donkeycannon
hey, i have been out of town since wednesday on business. My gf said a package I sent was sent back to me. Im 99 percent sure it is yours although she didnt say who it was from. Can I get your address again and I will resend it on monday.

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:02 pm
by Ruskin
Hey,

My address is

**snip**

Thanks,
Matt

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:31 am
by Ruskin
David,

I have to admit after thinking things through this weekend that I'm a little dissapointed how things have progressed with our trade. I sent you payment over 2 weeks ago and you still have the package. I understand that something may have happened with mail delivery, but you have to see it from my side, you havent had any updates for me this whole trade until I ask about it. I have had to email you twice to find out whats going on, and only after those messages have you responded. If you still have the package by the time you read this I hope you would consider sending me back my money and keeping the miniatures. Let me know how this sits with you.

Matt

Re: Getting out of the hobby sale
Sent: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:27 pm
by donkeycannon
I just got this message, the models were resent this morning. I'm sorry you feel this way. I gave you a good feedback. I've been working like a dog the last couple weeks and I have been sent all over ontario. Unable to take care of things at home. They should arrive in a couple days

My comments:
July 24th I sent payment to him via paypal. I recieved the items on the 14th of Aug. We live approximately at maximum 1 hour apart if his location in his profile is true. The real problem with this whole thing is poor communication on his part. I had to message him often to get the status and that he didnt message me first to explain what was going on.

The real kicker (as stated in the thread I linked to previously) is that he straight out lied about reading my pm regarding refunding my money. I had sent him two pm's, one with my address the other stating my displeasure with the trade. They both sat unread in his mailbox until I received the pm on Aug 10th. saying sorry I didnt get this in time (even though he needed to read them to get my address to ship). Then when the package arrives four days later it has a post office date stamp of the 13th of Aug. on the front, so clearly he had only just sent it.

He also lied about leaving me positive feedback. I didnt, and still have not received any feedback from him.

Sorry for all the text dudes,
Matt

He also lied about leaving me positive feedback. I didnt, and still have not received any feedback from him.

Wow.
Just wow.
That's something EASILY proven as untrue.

Did you leave a reference for him? Plan on it?
You say you just want people to know, but less people will see this than would see an appropriate reference.

Eric

MagickalMemories wrote:

He also lied about leaving me positive feedback. I didnt, and still have not received any feedback from him.

Wow.
Just wow.
That's something EASILY proven as untrue.

Did you leave a reference for him? Plan on it?
You say you just want people to know, but less people will see this than would see an appropriate reference.

Eric

I do plan on it, infact I'll go and do it now. I think part of me wanted to post this first as to prove to myself he needed a poor/bad report.

Well, provided (a) you've given us ALL of the applicable information and (b) aren't lying ( ), I'd have to say that you've established enough proof to support it.

Eric

It's done. I know you are only kidding but if i need to I can provide a pic of the shipping bag it came in with the date stamp ... other then that his pm's will be the exact same as mine if he posts them .

You're right.
I WAS kidding. I don't require it.

Keep it, though, in case he refutes your claim.
He has 30 days to refute a negative reference (everyone gets that much), so keep your proof for 31. : )

Eric