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hello,
pretty basic really. we both had small dollar amounts of bits that the other wanted. we sent at the same time. and neither of us used confirmation due to the small dollar amount. he received the shipment i sent. i to this day have never received anything from him. he states he's shipped again after the first failed attempt. after sending a bunch of PMs, he's finally stopped replying. i even have 5 PMs still in my out box that he's never "received". his profile shows he hasn't logged in since March. i get the impression he's a kid, and probably has forgotten all about it. i mainly don't won't him to get away with this one and then turn around and try to do something similar to someone else for a greater dollar amount.

here's most of our back and forth:

Re: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard
Sent: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:13 pm
by alarmingrick

hello,
what IG bits are you wanting?
thanks,
rick

Subject: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard

steck wrote:
i have the three shells off the sprue, the smoak stacks, the TL hvy flamers, a mallet, a box with the flying skull, a pair of antenas, an extra road wheel, the head with a targeting thing, the shoulder pads (all four) a standing body with a greatcoat, and the right pointing arm. i also cut off the main cannon and the co-axal mount, i did a good cut on the cannon, but the co-axal mount is cut at an angle, these would look great on an ork vehicle though.

ill try and get pics up this weekend

im looking for chaos marines (most anything and guard bits (msg me about these).


Re: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard
Sent: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:55 pm
by steck

lol im looking for some guys i can convert into heratics, im planning on doing something where i have a few walking allong sidethe plauge reaper im building, with pitchforks to toss bodies into the vats. i dont know what exactly i will need to do this, some bodies lets and heads for the most part, any amount you think is fair for what you want.


Re: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard
Sent: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:15 pm
by alarmingrick

hey,
did you want cadian or catachan?
i've got both. the catachan are the
more "muscled up" of the 2, and
might make better heretics, imho.
i can get a pile of bits together and
email you pics if you want.
my email is ###################.
lmk,
rick


Re: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard
Sent: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:23 pm
by steck

like i said, i dont know what would look best, ill take your word for it. i dont really need pics either. i can have pics of any pieces you want tomarrow (forgot today and now its late). what bits do you want?



Re: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard
Sent: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:51 pm
by alarmingrick

i'll take it all. i'm not that interested in the barrels, though.
i gathered up enough bits to
make 5 of each type. i also
threw in some 3 voxes, 4 grenade launchers,
sgt bits, ammo packs... basicly enough to fill almost
2 open palms. i'd feel better showing you what i'm
offering. do you ever go to ( a gaming forum)?
here's a link my gallery on ++++++. i put the pics
on there. they're all new from the sprue.
***********************************
the 2 pics of the bit piles are what i'm offering.
lmk,
rick


Re: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard
Sent: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:10 am
by steck

ok, ill have it shipped monday then



Re: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard
Sent: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:18 am
by alarmingrick

and where are you goin to ship to?
my address is:

rick minton
110 thompson dr.
moore, ok. 73160

i'm cool with shipping at the same
time. well, tuesday would be the
earliest i can ship. since they're
of such small value, i'm cool with
shipping first class w/o confirmation.
the last time i tried to ship first class
w/ confirmation the jacked it up to priority.
lmk what you want to do.
thanks
rick


Re: H: extra bits from baneblade sprue W:CSM or guard
Sent: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:02 pm
by steck

any shipping is ok with me, i dont need anything anytime soon.

my address is
3706 s. delridge rd.
Independence MO
64052


(skipping ahead to the last series of PMs)


no show
Sent: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:55 am
by alarmingrick

if you want to resend those bits, go ahead.
still haven't received anything.


Re: no show
Sent: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:33 am
by steck

ill have them in the mail by wed of next week then, i dont know why but i seem to have lots of bad luck with the post office


Re: no show
Sent: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:47 am
by alarmingrick

if you want my $.02, i think it was because you mailed it
from your house. i've been really lucky taking my stuff
to the actual brick and mortar post office. just my opinion.
and if anything shows up twice, i will ship back the extra.

thanks



Sent: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:47 am
by alarmingrick

hey
i did a little research at the post office this morning. i found out that if you send it in "thin" paper like envelope, they run it through a machine. they told me they get hung up and destoyed in the machine. so if you mail something that's not paper, use a padded envelope or box. not sure if that aplies to how you mailed the bits, but FYI.
rick


Sent: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:23 pm
by steck

i took it up there, and they said i had to send it a specal way because of that... it cost me about $.60 more


Sent: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:40 pm
by alarmingrick

so at the risk of sounding like a broken record, you re-mailed the bits on the 14th? when you had to get the special packaging, right?


Re: no show
Sent: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:57 am
by steck

no, i did mail them on the 18th though specially packed and such, it should be there soon (i hope)



Re: no show
Sent: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:58 pm
by alarmingrick

phew! i'm hopeful again!
thanks for the heads up

Re: no show
Sent: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:09 pm
by alarmingrick

i guess it wasn't meant to be for me to receive those bits


Re: no show
Sent: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:38 pm
by alarmingrick

well man, i'm not sure what the deal is but it's been God knows how long and i've still not received either sets of bits you mailed. not sure what the deal is, but i know i've got nothing in return for the stuff you received.


Re: no show
Sent: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:20 pm
by alarmingrick

i'm sure you won't get this message either. i'm sending a letter to the mailing address i have for you. if you don't reply to it or respond to some of these messages im going to file a BTR on you. sorry, but i don't know what else to do at this point.


as you can see, no reply from him after March 21st. i tried to be patient. and i think i waited long enough. so, if anyone has any dealings with him in the future, beware.

rick

Well, first off, THANK YOU for making a legible BTR. Many people just don't seem to understand how much better it makes things when you put your contacts in chronological order.
So, thanks for that. I actually read ALL of them. LOL

Now...

I see you posted Steck's address, but not his name. Did he give you his name?
If so, please post it.

Using the email he signed up with, I emailed him a link to this post and asked him to log in and address it.
We'll see how it goes.


Eric

P.S. This is a good example why people should always insisit on a D.C. # on both sides of every trade, every time. Either side could have claimed to not get bits when they DID get them, and the other guy would be none the wiser.

that was the odd thing, i never got a real name. i addressed the letter and his bits as "Mr. Steck".
and i completely agree about the DC#! from now on i get one and insist on one for everything.
thanks for the compliment.

That's another reason for your hackles to be raised.
Why wouldn't someone want to give you their REAL name?

I did a little looking and I'm not liking what I see:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=370 ... e&resnum=1

Looking at this, it looks like it MIGHT be in the city... which means a possible BUSINESS delivery address.

So, I put the address into http://www.zillow.com. it's a real estate site that shows home values, but it has the added benefit of utilizing Google Earth images. if it's a home or business, it'll show an image of the building:

http://www.zillow.com/homes/map/3706-s. ... -64052_rb/

Note the white box near the top left of the image.

Eric

Then again... I poked around a little more.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/map/3706-de ... ect/18_zm/

The house behind the big white building SHOULD be 3706, but isn't registering. I'm wondering it it's owned by a business and, therefore, not in the database. The house tight under it is 3708.

Wish I could get an address on that White building.

Hmm...

Okay... sometimes, I even scare myself.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&i ... _medium=ha

That's WEIRD.

http://www.nativityofmary.org/

You know, sometimes, when a Parish owns a property that's attached to it, the property takes on the Parish's address. If it's a smaller area (say, Independence, MO, for example), then the USPS might still deliver to that old adress.


I tried calling the Parish office. I got a voice mail that their office hours are 9 (or 9:30) to 3, Mon - Fri.
Might be worth a call Monday or Tuesday (they are probably closed for memorial Day, Monday) and just inquire about it. if you explain to the person, HONESTLY, why you're calling, they're probably gonna be REAL helpful.
You know, often, it's someone who works for the church (like the pastor) that lives in those types of properties. this seems to be Catholic, however, so I doubt it's that. You never know, though. Might be the principal (or whatever) of their school... who might have kids...

Eric

that is weird. even more so because he received his bits at the listed address. if my hunch is right and he's a kid, maybe it's a parents work address. that would explain it being an address for a commercial site.

Well, if you look at the image, it clearly "lines up" to be the small house behind the big white building... the one whose porch is obscured by trees...
I'm really thinking more along the lines of "staff" (of some sort) housing. Seems to obviously BAD of an idea to have stuff sent to your parents at their work if you intend on ripping the person off, since that person can easily just contact their work via mail. Even most kids, I think, wouldn't do that.

... I should clarify... I'm fully willing to accept that this is a big mix up on Steck's part, and NOT a scam. I'm just covering all the bases I would cover *IF* it was a scam.

I'd suggest a phone call Tuesday. Just tell them you have some weird questions but, if they bare with you, everything will make sense... Also, maybe try to convince them that you're not crazy. LOL That always helps when calling strangers on the phone and asking them what seems (to them) to be random questions.

If you can find out about the house on Delridge that is right behind the white roofed building on E 36 Terrace (maybe let them know you got this information from sattelite images online from Google), that's probably the first step in getting your resolution.


Eric

?!?!?!?!

SO MM is now big brother.. and watching us?!?!?!?!?!

kturock wrote:?!?!?!?!

SO MM is now big brother.. and watching us?!?!?!?!?!

Not "Us." Just you, kturock... and if you don't stop that, you'll go blind.



Actually, I just used the information he entered into the BTR and did a little internet research. S'easy.

Eric