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BTR: Aaron Gunvckle, AKA Kasiok - Unresolved

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:04 am
by Lictors_LoveMachine
Sorry to wait. Was told to put up or shut up [kidding] cause I got burned a while back by Aaron and all the effort I was putting out to catch him, I should post this.

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April 18, 2008 10:43:57
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Hi im inerested in the vindicator, immolator, and the grey knight termies.
How does 100$ +shipping sound. Thats just 10$ off apiece.
Let me know,

Kasiok]

Man I feel really bad, I thought the tanks and Grey Knights got shipped out and I was about to ask how the payment was going and my girlfriend said we
didn't ship them.

I still have them, do you still want them?

I am so sorry for the confusion and the wait.

Timothy

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April 18, 2008 14:25:52
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

wow i just figured you soldem to someone else. Of course ill still take them but at the moment i only have 85$ left i can spend on figs till next month. I dont think youll wanna come off of them for that but maybe we can work something out. Let me know what sounds good to you.

Aaron]

Sorry about the confusion Aaron.

Got any Space Marines for trade? Maybe Tomb Kings..?
I really want jump packs for marines.

Let me know what you think ok?

$85 shipped is a bit less than $100 plus shipping.

Let me know what you might have to trade and we'll go from there.

Talk to you soon.

Timothy

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April 18, 2008 22:06:23
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Cool deal, ill send out a postal money order as soon as i get delivery. Thanks for the sale and ill let you know the moment the money order hits the mail.

Aaron]

Thanks Aaron. I'll keep you posted. [bad pun]

Timothy

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April 30, 2008 16:05:46
Re: SM & Gk for $

Just curious if the tanks ever got mailed. i still havent recieved them so i didnt know if you decided to back out or something. Just wanted to check in.

Aaron

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May 4, 2008
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Just curious if the tanks ever got mailed. i still havent recieved them so i didnt know if you decided to back out or something. Just wanted to check in.

Aaron]

Hi Aaron, have you recieved the tanks or sent payment yet? Either one would be good news Wink

Talk to you soon,

Timothy

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May 5, 2008 05:05:28
Re: SM & Gk for $

Recieved the tanks on saturday. Ill get your payment out to you after work today.

Thanks,
Aaron

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May 5, 2008 05:42:05
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Recieved the tanks on saturday. Ill get your payment out to you after work today.

Thanks,
Aaron]

Thanks Aaron Wink

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May 12, 2008 22:59:23
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Recieved the tanks on saturday. Ill get your payment out to you after work today.

Thanks,
Aaron]

Hey Aaron, what day did you mail out payment to me again? I still haven't received it but a letter from Alabama got to me in under 72 hours over the weekend.

Hope you can get me an update.

Thanks for your time.

Timothy

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May 16, 2008 13:57:14
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:
Recieved the tanks on saturday. Ill get your payment out to you after work today.

Thanks,
Aaron]


Hey Aaron, when did payment go out for those 2 tanks? It's been 10 days since I got this email from you and honestly I am getting a little worried it hasn't shown up yet.

Please message me back, this is the third email I have sent and haven't heard back from you on it.

Timothy

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May 18, 2008 12:18:32
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Recieved the tanks on saturday. Ill get your payment out to you after work today.

Thanks,
Aaron]

An email about payment would be nice.

I don't know why you have yet to contact me.

I was counting on that money to help with bills or gas and I got nothing from you.

Write me.

Timothy

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May 18, 2008 15:54:25
Re: SM & Gk for $

Ok, Aaron. With the help of other members of Bartertown, I know now that you have been reading the messages I have been sending and I will be following up on reporting you as a bad trader. I'm annoyed and 3 messages with no replies and saying you sent payment at least 2 weeks ago is garbage man.

I want my cash or I want the models replaced. I have had this happen before and I won't put up with it. I sent you brand new models and I got nada.

I have no problems with going to the police in your hometown as I have had people in other cities try this before.

Timothy

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May 19, 2008 04:56:38
Re: SM & Gk for $

Look ive been scammed myself many times and ive been replying to all your messages so i dont know what the hell your trying to do. I sent the money order to you. I have the stubb in my wallet right now as ive said in the last five messages ive sent you. i dont know whats going on here but i checked in on it and my money order was cashed on the 15th so if you dont have my money i would like to know why. I dont know what else you want from me but ive upheld my end of the deal and i wont be sending any more money.

Aaron

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May 19, 2008 09:43:53
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Look ive been scammed myself many times and ive been replying to all your messages so i dont know what the hell your trying to do. I sent the money order to you. I have the stubb in my wallet right now as ive said in the last five messages ive sent you. i dont know whats going on here but i checked in on it and my money order was cashed on the 15th so if you dont have my money i would like to know why. I dont know what else you want from me but ive upheld my end of the deal and i wont be sending any more money.

Aaron]

Aaron, I want proof.

Why dose this ONE message got through WHEN I THREATEN TO GO TO THE POLICE and I have NOTHING else in return from you?

I want copies of ALL of the messages, I want a copy of the money order number and amount you made it out for and who you bought it from. I also want the date it was bought. I asked for a USPS money order and in this case I will file a fraud claim with the post office if it was cashed or if it never existed.

I'm not buying this.

I want my money or my NEW models in a week. No BS.

Timothy

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May 19, 2008 23:42:58+00:000UTC4UTC
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Look ive been scammed myself many times and ive been replying to all your messages so i dont know what the hell your trying to do. I sent the money order to you. I have the stubb in my wallet right now as ive said in the last five messages ive sent you. i dont know whats going on here but i checked in on it and my money order was cashed on the 15th so if you dont have my money i would like to know why. I dont know what else you want from me but ive upheld my end of the deal and i wont be sending any more money.

Aaron]

Hey Aaron, let's start over and try to find out what happened to the payment you sent ok? I didn't receive it. So I need you to go to whoever you bought the money order form and find out who signed it and cashed it ok?

If it was cashed on the 15th, we need to know who did it. I know where I was on the 15th and I am sure it wasn't near my bank or a post office.

So see if you can find out for me where it went please? That cool? I want to work this out.

Also, could you please forward all of the messages you sent me these past few days, I didn't get them and don't know where they may have gone. You said you wrote me 5 times? That's cool. Can you resend them out of your sent box or Outbox if you have them? Thanks again.

Hopefully we can figure out what happened and not have to resort to having the models returned and we can make a confusing situation into a good one for everybody.

Thanks again.

Timothy

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May 20, 2008 03:58:18
Re: SM & Gk for $

Im on my way to work now. Ill check on the money order today and get back to you tonight when i get off. If worse comes to worse ill order you two new tanks and send them to you. Ill just have to wait on them to come to me before i can send them to you.

Aaron

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May 20, 2008 10:05:08
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Im on my way to work now. Ill check on the money order today and get back to you tonight when i get off. If worse comes to worse ill order you two new tanks and send them to you. Ill just have to wait on them to come to me before i can send them to you.

Aaron]

Thank you Aaron.

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May 20, 2008 17:41:24
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Ok, I am going to place the order for the tanks and I already placed a dispute with the post office for the money order. As soon as the tanks come in ill send them to you and give you tracking numbers.

Just to check though are there two other items from GW of the same price that you would rather have? Figure maybe that would be better than getting the two tanks you didn't want anyways. let me know and ill place the order right away.

Aaron]


I was thinking about asking you about that too actually. What dollar amount are you putting on the tanks? The $85 we agreed on possibly?

If that's possible, how about these terms instead?

At the website: Thewarstore.net they sell everything GW at 20% off and only charge about 4-5 dollars for shipping now matter what you order.

So off the top of my head... 3 boxes of models I want is 94 dollars, but at 20% off it is only about 75.20 plus shipping. You save money [like 5 bucks], I get more models, we call it good. What do you think?

Armies of Chaos... 40k

Daemonettes of Slaanesh box set [new plastics] $22
Bloodthirsters of Khorne box set [new plastics] $22
The Soulgrinder [new heavy support] $50

Think that might be a workable solution? Then you can have thewarstore.net ship and confirm them and not have to worry about that either.

How's that sound?

Talk to you soon.

Timothy

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May 21, 2008 03:27:20
Re: SM & Gk for $

Sounds fine, just give me til Friday to order them when i get paid. And please send your address again so i can make sure they get to you.

Aaron

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May 21, 2008 09:11:14+00:000UTC4UTC
Re: SM & Gk for $

[Kasiok wrote:

Sounds fine, just give me til Friday to order them when i get paid. And please send your address again so i can make sure they get to you.

Aaron]

Friday is fine, thank you.

*My address edited out*

*My personal email edited out*

Talk to you soon. Please keep me updated.

Timothy

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May 23, 2008 17:51:22
Checking in

Hi Aaron, just checking in to see if there was an update on our deal. Were you able to contact the warstore.net alright and everything?

Keep me updated please. Thanks for your time.

Timothy

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May 24, 2008 04:45:54
Re: Checking in

hi i had to order them through my LGS as i can run a line of credit through them and pay it later, im kinda short on cash like everyone else at the moment. They should come in next week and ill get them out to you as soon as they arrive.

Aaron

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May 24, 2008 11:28:21
Re: Checking in

[Kasiok wrote:

hi i had to order them through my LGS as i can run a line of credit through them and pay it later, im kinda short on cash like everyone else at the moment. They should come in next week and ill get them out to you as soon as they arrive.

Aaron]

This isn't the deal we agreed to Aaron and you didn't notify me before you did it. How can I agree to it if you already did it?

Is there any proof you ordered anything form them? Did you order what we agreed on? I don't know what and LGS is.

I asked if you were ok with buying and shipping through Thewarstore.net and you said yes.

I asked if you would ship to me through them and you agreed to that too.

Unfortunately I am getting a little annoyed right now. I sent you brand new DISCONTINUED models and you are doing a pretty good job at either avoiding me or not honouring our deal.

Could you PLEASE do something to assure me this isn't an attemppt to blow me off?

Thanks for your time.

Timothy

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May 24, 2008 18:51:42
Re: Checking in

Jesus man, back off a bit. I ordered your models through The Danger Room Comics and Games in Anderson, IN. The phone number is 765-646-6341. Feel free to call and check. The order is under the name Baldy. I WORK THERE! I agreed to the fact that i would get you the new models instead of old ones in lue of the fact that you claim you didnt recieve my money. I could have just as easily told you to f off but im trying to be reasonable and give you the benifit of the doubt. So if you want to continue to attack me and my character then I can easily call the order off. Ive been in the gaming industry for 14 years now and thats not what im about. You need to have some patience and youll get the models you want, In time ill find out who has my money and everyone can be happy.

Aaron

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May 31, 2008 17:14:14
Re: Checking in

I got your demons in today and i will be packaging them up to ship out first thing on Monday morning. Ill send you tracking numbers from work as soon as i have them.

Aaron

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May 31, 2008 17:28:28
Re: Checking in

[Kasiok wrote:

I got your demons in today and i will be packaging them up to ship out first thing on Monday morning. Ill send you tracking numbers from work as soon as i have them.

Aaron]

Thanks for the update Aaron. So, what did we get?

Talk to you soon.

Timothy

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June 1, 2008 04:09:28+00:000UTC4UTC
Re: Checking in

it was one unit of bloodletters, one unit of daemonettes, and a soulgrinder all still sealed new editions right? thats what ive got sitting here. I hope i got the right stuff.

Aaron

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June 1, 2008 13:42:07+00:000UTC4UTC
Re: Checking in

[Kasiok wrote:

it was one unit of bloodletters, one unit of daemonettes, and a soulgrinder all still sealed new editions right? thats what ive got sitting here. I hope i got the right stuff.

Aaron]

Yes, those are the ones. Thanks.

Timothy

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June 2, 2008 06:27:45
Re: Checking in

Ok, I got your stuff in the mail this morning. It went out Priority mail and your tracking number is - 0308 0730 0000 1459 5878. By the way i was contacted yesterday by the Colorado Police department. They caught and arrested the guy that cashed my money order so it looks like i will be getting reimbursed after all. Seems that things will work out for both of us after all.
Sorry for all the trouble and enjoy the Daemons.

Aaron

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I got the models and didn't hear from Aaron again. I then left bad feedback for him.

A few days ago I saw he took another trader's Marine army and bailed on HIM too. So I took the work number I had for Aaron, called it and got Aaron's Disctrict manager. Come to find out Aaron is the manager of a game shop there. I explained what Aaron had done, said and followed through with using their store to fill my order. The Manager [Tony] was unthrilled and said he would be talkign to Aaron.

TODAY I see ANOTHER Bad Trader report against him, he took models and didn't ship again...

What should we do to make this look good Eric?

Timothy

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So the resolution was, I told him if he didn't pay me I'd go to the police. He asked me to not bring this up.

I called is work, got ihs boss and let him in on what's up and I also did what I could to give the phone number and addresses relate dto Kasiok to all of the other users who got burned by him.

In my opinion, this user needs to be jailed and if not, then banned from B-Town, but that's not in my power to do, simply a suggestion.

Thanks to the mods and Watchmen who have dropped me messages from time to time helping me with this.

Timothy/The Lictor...

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:09 am
by starslayer
You know why you got your stuff??? Because you put the screws to this punk. You put pressure on him, you followed thru, & he cracked. If you were MR. Nice guy, and didnt do anything like contact the PD & his job, you would have received NOTHING.

I have big respect for you Lictor. Others need to follow your example. When the PD get 4 or 5 reports about the same guy, they cant ignore it.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:40 am
by Lictors_LoveMachine
Thanks man.

This is why I have been sharing my information and conducting private emails with the other victims of this guy and giving out phone numbers and addresses to those who need them.

I was serious. If I could get him jailed for this I would.

Timothy

Re: Bad Trdaer Report: Aaron Gunvckle, AKA Kasiok

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:57 pm
by Misterbucket
I'm the third guy to post a bad ref for this guy. He took me for about $120 in Grey Knights. I've never been screwed over on a trade before. I'd like any information I can get on how to approach this. I have no intention of just eating the bad trade.

Re: Bad Trdaer Report: Aaron Gunvckle, AKA Kasiok

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:01 pm
by MagickalMemories
Misterbucket wrote:I'm the third guy to post a bad ref for this guy. He took me for about $120 in Grey Knights. I've never been screwed over on a trade before. I'd like any information I can get on how to approach this. I have no intention of just eating the bad trade.

Start by reading the Bad Trader Reporting guidelines. Follow the instructions in there & you'll be fine.
Just remember, though: You can't post your complaint in here. It has to be your own thread.


Eric