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BTR: Jonathan Henry/ Crystal Henry - Unresolved

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:39 pm
by sharpes
Hello,

This is my first time having to post here. I have completed maybe 15 or so transaction through Bartertown in the past with no problems.

I bought some tanks from Crystal Henry, I sent her a money order for 550.00, but I have not received the tanks. Imailed the money order on 06/13/05, it is now 07/18/05, and no tanks!

She had plenty of good feedback, which makes it odd that she screwed me, but there it is. She has not responded to me since 06/25/05

Here are some e-mails, I guess this is where you put them?



Thanks for the offer on the figs, but I use VFM figs, and they don't mix well with other lines unfortunately.

Have the tanks that I paid you for gone into the mail yet? You didn't say in your e-mail.

Thanks
Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: crystal henry [mailto:crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:05 PM
To: Andrew Turlington
Subject: RE: Bartertown Tanks


I apologize for the email( the lack there of) our street has a major renovation of the curbs, 4 new storm sewer drains all driv ways will have new 5' bottoms. well on Tuesday morning around 7:10 the phone what ever other cables were damaged and now they have/had to do a relocation of these wires to accomadate the new storm sewer---what the city says unofficially.
as a result of the outage--I also lost a sale of my entire Russian infantry company: was wondering if you would like this as it includes:
SOVIET RIFLE COMPANY



FIRST PLATOON: 67 men and 1 dog.

3 rifle squads 10 men each. DP gunners(3) one man with panzerfaust

1 Sub-machine gun squad 10 men-1 man w/panzerfaust

Command group: Officer, NCO, radio, banner, 2 snipers, 2 flamethower troopers

Bomb-dog.

Support: 2 Mortars and 2 Maxims(have both moving and firing poses)



All models are by Battlehonors and in summer uniform-some very early helmets.





SECOND PLATOON: 47men

3 rifle squads 10 men each DP gunners

Command group: Officer(pistol), radio, banner, 2 ATRs, sniper, flamethrower trooper

Support: 1 Mortar and 1 Maxim(have both moving and firing poses)



All models are by Battlehonors and are in Greatcoats





THIRD PLATOON: 36 men

2 Sub-machinegun squads(mostly PPSH but some shovels and pistols)

1 Rifle/SMG squad(8 rifles, 5 SMG/pistol&shovel)some have the head removed and the head by BoltActionMiniatures put in place---You guessed it conversions!!!

Command:Officer, Medic, and Commissar by Boltaction Miniatures

Support: 1 Maxim



All of these models are by Blacktree Design(with a few BoltAction heads)



NKVD SECTION: 12 die-hard Communists

4 men with SMG

2 men with Mosin Nagant rifles

1 DP machine gunner

2 men with SVT-40

Radio, banner, and Comrade Commissar in leather jacket.



All of these NKVD men are by Battlehonors and have "officer" style caps and Greatcoats



ANTI-TANK ARTILLERY: 5 men

1 76.2mm anti-tank gun by Battlehonors

5 crewmen which appear to be by Westwind(one is an officer in Greatcoat)

1 GAZ-truck by All Fronts Armor Depot.



CASUALTIES: 19 dead men

Mortar and Maxim bases, 14 individual dead guys-by AFAD and 1 Gory death by EZ8 Entterprises.

AIR SUPPORT:

One YAK-7 fighter/bomber model painted and decaled





All of these models are professionally painted. see the attachments of some of these infantrymen

Andrew Turlington <ATurlington@ossva.com> wrote:
Hello Crystal.

On 06/13/05 I sent you a postal money order for 550.00 for some tanks. Since that time you have not answered any of my e-mails, and I have not received the tanks. I am sending you this e-mail as a last courtesy, I will be at the post office tomorrow filing paperwork to recoup my funds from the money order if I do not hear from you.

Thanks
Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: crystal henry [mailto:crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:55 AM
To: Andrew Turlington
Subject: RE: Bartertown Tanks


attached are 4 pics. I will go ahead and give you my address:
Crystal Henry
18 Stephendale Ct.
Rolla MO 65401
this way if you like the pics and models you can get the Postal Money order out today. I have to step out a few more times today and don't want my schedule to make this take an extra day. Thank you and email as much as you like. I am checking every hour or so. C

Andrew Turlington <ATurlington@ossva.com> wrote:
Thanks for the reply, the deal sounds good, but I would like to see a couple of photos before deciding a final answer. If I like the pictures, the deal is done. Do you have the ability to e-mail pics tonight?

Thanks
Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: crystal henry [mailto:crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:10 AM
To: Andrew Turlington
Subject: Re: Bartertown Tanks


thank you for the reply and don't worry about the # of messages. I am happy that you sent the second as you are shooting for the majority of the tanks I am replying to you first(and hopefully only)
the total for the 2 tank lots is $545----I will toss in the BH Opel blitz tuck and 2 Corgi Kubelwagens(you could paint one drk. green and put big red stars on the doors!!)
I will also add in an unpainted AFAD Panzer IIC that just turned up.
Shipping should be $10-$12---split that and we call it a United States Postal MOney order For $550 and you have these wonderful models. Hopefully we can settle this today--I have the MO on Wednesday or Thurday and you can have the tanks on Saturday!!! C

Andrew Turlington <ATurlington@ossva.com> wrote:
Hello,

I am interested in the following models that you have listed on Bartertown. Can you send me pics??

Thanks
Andy



2 Panzer IV H---side skirts, decals, and clear coated. $50 for the pair.
2 hanomags---one in ambush camo other panzer Grey----$47 for the pair
Panzer II F panzer Grey----$26
3 Panzer IIIs all grey $68 for the platoon
1 Stug IIID--short 75mm gun---Grey--$26





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I am in the same boat with Crystal!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:03 am
by TruBrujah
***** I have edited my own address out of this for security***** (Lin pm me if, by doing so i have broken some type of rule, and i will fix it)


I have the same problem with crystal. She has 156$ of mine. I have e-mailed and tried to call her number form the internet. She has a good trader rating so I am at a loss. Please let me know whay progress you get. Or if you are going to call the local authorities please let me know who you contact so we can speak to the same people. Good Luck!
Thanks
Patrick

following are all of my e-mails ( the only parts I have cut our are my/ her in line replies( when the past e-mail is in the new e-mails) this was just to save space if anyone (lin? or other head persons in charge)needs to see them I can arange it.




Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "PL Alderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Subject: Bartertown.org
To: crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com

Do you still have the following for sale at 170?

Pro-painted Khador:
Man-hunter
Sorscha
3 Shocktroopers and 1 Captain
1 Kovnik
2 Juggernauts WARJACKS
1 Destroyer WARJACK
1 Marauder WARJACK
you also get these unpainted:
10 winterguard
1 winterguard mortar
4 Widowmaker snipers
3 Grey Lords
1 Destroyer Warjack

If so could you please send me a few pics. I might be
willing to buy them, I would just want to see pics
first.


Thank you
Patrick

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Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn more
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com>

They are but I have an offer for $150 that I will extend to you as well(I am in a nice mood for the holiday) also all to the list---Warcaster Vlad, Mechanic and 4 assistants. shipping for these would be $6 so a money order for $156 would have it for you. the Warjacks alone are $115. attached are some pics. I can do a few more if you would like. quality of the pics is not so good but you should have a basic idea. I will also include the body for Irusk and the alternate head I had for him(got him the head was missing), and the Butcher--his axe arm has gone AWOL but I was going to conert a Space marine Power fist and an axe for him. you get these 2 for free.
To Let you know I have been waiting sine Tuesday for the other trader to conclude the deal---it appears he has backed out at the present time. so really if you want these Khador you need to get back with me ASAP and we can wrap it up and they will be yours. C

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Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com>

I am in SC.
Do you take pay pal?
It sounds like a really good deal.
I will be out of town from monday the 4th untill
thursday afternoon. If you take pay pal I will send
some time that night or friday morning. If not I will
send a money order for 156 friday afternoon. If this
sounds good please send me your address.
Thanks
Patrick

could you snap off a few extra pics for me of the
other models. Thanks

Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn more
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com>

Friday sounds good. I can wait. they are yours and I have them put on the side. I will see if I can get a box and have them packed and ready to go when I get the MO. C

Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:24:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn more
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com>

I just wanted to drop you a line to keep the communication channels open for our deal. I will work on some pics wednesday for you if I get the chance. If not I will still get some pics out to you just as a teaser. this is a really good deal for you. The other trader talked me down so you really had little to do. man that was an easy one. hope to hear from you and here is my addy:
Crystal Henry
18 Stephendale Ct.
Rolla MO 65401
hope you had a happy and safe 4th--enjoy the rest of your vacation. also send me your address so if I can get it all boxed I can get the addy on there and be all ready on my end. C

Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:26:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn more
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com>

also add the Iron fang pike man capt and the standardbearer. still would like to know if all things have the green light for the Khador on Friday(tommorrow). still $156 for you. please send a message when you get back. thank you C


Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:34:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com>

Hey I just got back, Yes everything is a go for tormorrow. I will send out a money order with tracking and signture delivery. If you need anything please feel free to call me at
843-***-*** ( its my cell, well my only number) Same with phone number edited for security


My address is

Patrick Alderson
***************7/04/06 Edited my own address out of this for security
*****************


Thanks
Patrick

Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 06:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com>

Hey crystal,
Here is your tracking number

2303 1610 0000 3511 3337

I sent It priority Mail with Signature Confirmaiton,
they only reason I put signature rather than just
tracking is that it is just a MO.

Please let me know when you get this, my address is:

Patrick Alderson
***************7/04/06 Edited my own address out of this for security
*****************


My phone number is 843-***-*** (in case you need
anything) Same with phone number edited for security

Thanks alot,
Patrick





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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:03:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com>

Hey Crystal,
I see that you got the money order, any idea when you will be shipping out? Just let me know when you get a chance.

Thank You
Patrick
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:16:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com>

Hey Crystal,
I see that you got the money order any idea when you will be shipping out? I just havent had any contact from you in a week.
Just let me know when you get a chance.

Thank You
Patrick

Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:10:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "PL Anderson" <kreenshaw@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Bartertown.org
To: "crystal henry" <crystaleyes65201@yahoo.com>

crystal henry,
I see that you got the money order, (signature
confirmation)I just haven't had any contact from you
in a week. I need you to contact me ASAP or I will be
forced to file mail fraud charges. I see on
bartertown that someone else is having the same
problem for some tank models with you. If there has
been some type of problem please keep me informed as I
either need the money back or the models. If I do not
here from you by Friday the 22 of July, I will take it
to mean that you have no intention of honoring your
sale to me.

Thank You
Patrick



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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:12 am
by TruBrujah
her local police department is at the following address

http://www.rollacity.org/police/police.shtm

I have given her untill Friday to contact me or I call and report mailfraud.

Charges Cancel Money orders ???

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:16 am
by DarkSoul
Do you still have your money order recepts.. find out if they were cashed... if not you can cancel them... you would also need them for mail fraud charges.

Money Order

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:25 am
by TruBrujah
I just checked that

She cashed Mine on the 15th of July. She also recieved the money order:

Label/Receipt Number: 2303 1610 0000 3511 3337
Status: Delivered

Your item was delivered at 4:45 pm on July 11, 2005 in ROLLA, MO 65401. The item was signed for by C HENRY.

So she is there and has signed for the money order.

Thanks for the idea!

well at least you have proof now

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:24 pm
by DarkSoul
At least you know it was received and cashed... maybe she just hasn’t gotten them mailed yet.. its only been 7 days... I would at least wait 14 days before doing something that you may regret or may make you look silly in the long run. The post office will require 30 days anyway more than likely! If she has mailed them and its just late arriving... or she has PC problems.. their is allot of variables.. that’s why when dealing in large amounts i always give and receive a contact number.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:42 am
by sharpes
I filed a report with the Postal Service from their web site. I will get in touch with her local authorities this week and see if there is anything that they can do, but my guess is they tell me its out of their control, buyer beware and all that jazz.

I have the receipt to my money order, I entered it into the online form at the post office when I filled my mail fraud complaint. How do I go about finding out when it was cashed? I didnt see anything on the web site.

Thanks
Andy

postal order right?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:38 pm
by TruBrujah
I had to make a few calls to western union for mine. I think you said that yours was a postal money order? I would look on usps.com and find the customer help line. It may take a few min but I have found them to be helpfull in the past.

Let me know who you talk to in rolla so that I can speak to him/her also. Who knows if 2 people start to complain they will at least check it out.

Good luck!

crystal henry bad trader

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:04 pm
by fredavner
it seems that several people have bought the same goods....this person has sold me the same world war two deal . this person has the money i sent (i am not going to bother sending the emails) and claims to be sick, in hospital (according to jon henry a male) lots of stalling...this has been going on since july 4th weekend.

fredavner@aol.com

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:58 pm
by Guest
and claims to be sick, in hospital (according to jon henry a male) lots of stalling...this has been going on since july 4th weekend.
Well aparently being sick didnt stop her from signing for my MO, or cashing it that friday the 15th of july.

If he/she is still responding to your e-mails please direct them here so we can get this worked out.

oh no..

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:59 pm
by TruBrujah
Sorry the above message was from me.

I hope its not this Jonathan Henry from MO

Bad 01/21/03 17:42:20 Jonathan Henry jchenry47@yahoo.com Rob Wub ( 0 ) robwub@yahoo.com MO,
Comments: I had a bad experience with Jonathan Henry of Columbia, MO. He has recently posted an ad on 1/13/2003 selling T-34 tanks that resembles the ad that I was taken by last September 2002. I attempted to contact Mr. Henry via Email and certified USPS to the address I sent my check to. Jonathan never responded to any of my communication efforts, but cashed my check and never sent my T-34 tank. His prior Email is JCHENRY47@hotmail.com Look for my feedback on that address to see the whole story. DO NOT TRADE OR BUY FROM JONATHAN HENRY of Columbia, MO.


Bad 10/30/02 13:53:40 Jonathan Henry jchenry47@hotmail.com Rob Wubbenhorst ( 0 ) robwub@yahoo.com MO,
Comments: Ad # 27950 posted on Sept. 13, 2002. I sent Jon $19.00 which was cashed on Oct. 3, 2002. I have not received my order or had any contact with seller. Am initiating theft report with law enforcement and will continue to pursue the matter. Do not trade or buy/sell with Jonathan Henry of Columbia, MO.

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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:33 pm
by MagickalMemories
OKay, Bartertownians (Bartertowners?).
Here's what I have for you so far.

I live in Festus, Mo. That is just a pubic hair south of St. Louis.
Rolla is not CLOSE to here, but is not very far, either.

A google search of Jonathan Henry (even with various spellings of John) comes up with nothing in Rolla. Crystal Henry, however, comes up.
Her address matches the one above and the phone number given is 573-426-6012.

I called it and it is disconnected.

So, I called information.
I gave them Crystal's name and address and they came up with this number: 573-426-5269.
Since it is the same area code & exchange, I felt good about this being the correct number.
There was, unfortunately, no answer after 2 full minutes of ringing.

My cell phone has free long distance & free night & weekend minutes.
I will call Crystal a few more times this weekend, if needed, and continually at night, until I get a hold of her.
Considering the last couple posts, I have a scary thought.

Crystal is, likely, not the culprit here.

Crystal is probably mom, sister, wife or daughter to the culprit (likly, John). I can tell you, honestly, that someone like this could easily get money orders and checks transacted if they are in someone elses name, if he played his cards right (wrong?) and stuck to his story.

I will update this thread as I have info.

Eric

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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:38 pm
by MagickalMemories
edited

crystal henry

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:38 am
by fredavner
anybody got a angle on what might be local shops within 1-1/2 hours of rolla that might know this person/these people?

sfopswp

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:59 am
by MagickalMemories
So, it seems that the Henry's have caller ID, at least... though they don't seem to have an ANSWERING MACHINE...

I crashed for a nappy-poo this afternoon (I'm getting old), after signing offline. Apparently, they called the cell phone while I was "out."

I'll have to give them a ring tomorrow.

Eric