Bartertown.com

I contacted this guy a couple of weeks ago to purchase two airbrushes from him, sent the money via PayPal, and have heard nothing from him since. On the upside, the payment hasn't been completed yet (only cleared), but I can't get in touch with him.

PMs:

From: DeadMilkman ( 36 )
To: reveriestudio
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:32 am
Subject: Airbrushes
Hello! I'd like both of your airbrushes, if they are still available. Do you still have any of the accessories that came with them, if any?

I have PayPal immediately. Let me know what the total will be, and I'll get it out to you today.

From: reveriestudio ( 4 )
To: DeadMilkman
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:47 am
Subject: Re: Airbrushes Quote message
Both have never been used and are still in the original cases with all their accessories. That would be $40 for the brushes and $5 for shipping so your total is $45, my paypal email is tippmansniper208@hotmail.com and your package will be sent as soon as payment received.

From: DeadMilkman ( 36 )
To: reveriestudio
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Airbrushes
Payment is on the way. It needs to clear my bank account first, so I will not expect shipment until that happens. My shipping address is:

<address>

Thanks!

Wes

The following messages haven't been read by reveriestudio yet.

From: DeadMilkman ( 36 )
To: reveriestudio
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:12 am
Subject: Re: Airbrushes Edit message
Payment has cleared. Please let me know when you ship, and let me know what the delivery confirmation number is.

Thanks!

From: DeadMilkman ( 36 )
To: reveriestudio
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:48 am
Subject: Re: Airbrushes Edit message
Hey! You should have gotten the money by now. Have you had a chance to ship the airbrushes out? Please get back to me and let me know whether or not you've shipped it. THanks!

From: DeadMilkman ( 36 )
To: reveriestudio
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:20 am
Subject: Re: Airbrushes Edit message

reveriestudio wrote:
Both have never been used and are still in the original cases with all their accessories. That would be $40 for the brushes and $5 for shipping so your total is $45, my paypal email is tippmansniper208@hotmail.com and your package will be sent as soon as payment received.

Hey man. Just pinging you a second time. Please drop me a line ASAP and let me know what's going on. You've got my money. I'd hate to have to start a bad trader thread on you.

Thanks.

Wes

When I didn't get a response from that last message, I started looking for more information on this guy. PayPal has the name on his account as Nik Kosobucki. I also sent the following email to both the email address' I had for him:

to t2tknkout@yahoo.com,
tippmansniper208@hotmail.com
date Aug 13, 2007 10:43 AM
subject Bartertown - Airbrushes
mailed-by gmail.com

Hello! I'm DeadMilkman from Bartertown, I'm trying to get into contact with you regarding the two airbrushes I sent you money for last week. I see you haven't checked your PMs, so I'm hoping you check your email more often.

The payment of $45 has cleared as of 8/10/2007, sent via paypal to tippmansniper208@hotmail.com, from WesleyWright@westat.com. Please contact me ASAP, if only to let me know you're not ripping me off. If you've decided not to sell the airbrushes, that fine, PayPal does refunds very easily.

Please get in contact with me via this email when you get a chance.

Thanks.

Wes

The only response I got back was that the hotmail account is dead. I'm also contacting PayPal, to hopefully get my money back.

Wes

Hey Deadmilkman,

This e-mail and name, t2tknkout@yahoo.com, has been noted as a Scammer on Dakka Dakka.

Here is a link to the posts on this Fraudulent person:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/Forums/tabid/ ... fault.aspx


If I were you I would place a Dispute right now on Paypal and get your money back before he clears out his Paypal account.


So to all, if you have had any dealing with the following names, and e-mail addresses be aware.

Nik Kosobucki (possible name)
t2tknkout21 (Dakka Dakka screen name)
t2tknkout@yahoo.com (e-mail)
tippmansniper208@hotmail.com (Paypal account)


I e-mailed the guy to get a sale going. I also stated on my e-mail that since I have a higher rating, I expect him to send first. I never got a reply back. The first signs of possible fraud. I lucked out. Hope you guys get your money back.

J

Shoot.
I guess I figured this was inevitable when Nik did not respond to any emails or messages after I sent him payment.
I also sent "Nik" a paypal payment for $55 for some LE figures he posted.
I have started the paypal dispute process. It's a shame, because I was just starting to get into Bartertown trading when this person came along.

I have had good luck here in the past, and I hope to have good luck in the future, but this puts a damper on things.

Karl

Bugger all. Thanks for the info, J.

I ask for some patience here, as I am doing all this for the first time.
Here is the link to reveriestudio's post:

viewtopic.php?t=48981&highlight=

Next is the emails and messages I have sent to him concerning our transaction:
My first message:

From: Adunaphel ( 16 )
To: reveriestudio
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:33 am
Subject: LE Ultramarines standard
Is this the Skulz LE Ultarmarines standard? The one with the metal base?
If so, I will take it. Let me know.
Thanks.
Karl


I sent him an email that said the same thing and then sent another when I took another look at his items. He replied with this (his only email or message to me).

All of those are left, and yes that is the one from the skulz promotion with the metal base. So the minis would be $50 with $5 shipping your total would be $55, my paypal email is tippmansniper208@hotmail.com and your package will be shipping when i receive the payment

thanks much,
Nik

Karl Steinnecker <kazandbee@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello,

I PMed you to let you know that I am interested in your LE Ultramarines Standard Bearer.
I am VERY interested in this figure if it was the Skulz figure with metal base.
Just send me your paypal account and I will send you payment.
I am interested in the other LE figures also (all 5):

LE Ultramarine Standard Bearer (unassembled) $10
LE Psyker (unassembled) $10
LE Space Marine Captain (from winter ‘99 40k box set) $10
LE Chaos Marauder (unassembled) $10
LE High Elf Army Standard (unassembled, from army box) $10

Let me know which of these figures that you have left and I will send you the paypal payment.

Thanks

This email was recieved from Nik at 11:00 am August 8, 2007.
I sent the paypal payment to him at 11:03 am.

I sent him this email on August 10:

Hello Nik,

I was emailing you to ask if you had shipped the 5 LE GW figures?
Just checking to see how things were progressing.
Thanks in advance for any information.

Karl

I PMed him on August 13:

From: Adunaphel ( 16 )
To: reveriestudio
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:16 pm
Subject: LE figures
Hello again,

I am still waiting to hear if you received my payment and whether you have shipped the 5 LE GW figures?
Please let me know how it is going.
I would hate to think that I chose a bad trader here on B-town.

Thanks in advance for any information.

Karl


And this one on August 14:

Hello again Nik,

It has been a week since I sent you the $55 paypal payment for the 5 Limited Edition figures that you listed on Bartertown.
Please, just send me a quick email letting me know you got the payment and whether you have shipped the figures or are going to ship the figures soon.

Thanks in advance for whatever information you can give me.

Kalr


I was considering emailing and PMing him one more time when I came across this post.

Karl

Aw crud! I know better than to pay first! I just got lazy, and wanted to speed up the transaction. Shame on me. I have already initiated a dispute with paypal. We'll see if it does any good.
My exchanges follow:
From: Wild One ( 224 )

To: reveriestudio
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:52 am
Subject: interested
I am interested in the following items but have a few questions listed below.

2 Vostroyan Snipers (unassembled) $5
OOP Wood Elf Dragon (partially assembled) $10 – are all parts present? Unprimed?
16 Man Saurus Unit (assembled primed) $10 - 6th edition? Spears or hand weapons?
5 Chameleon Skinks (assembled partially painted) $10
Mounted Orc Mage (unassembled) $5 -6th ed?

From: reveriestudio ( 4 )
To: Wild One
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:57 am
Subject: Re: interested
The saurus are equipped with hand weapons, and the orc is from the most current edition. Sorry the WE dragon is already taken. Any other questions?

From: Wild One ( 224 )
To: reveriestudio
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:03 am
Subject: Re: interested
Rats, that was fast for the dragon. Ah well...
I would like
2 Vostroyan Snipers (unassembled) $5
16 Man Saurus Unit (assembled primed) $10
Mounted Orc Mage (unassembled) $5
Shelob

From: reveriestudio ( 4 )
To: Wild One
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:41 pm
Subject: Re: interested Quote message
Okay sounds good that would be $30 plus $5 shipping so your total would be $35. My paypal email is tippmansniper208@hotmail.com and your package will be sent as soon as the payment is recieved.

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:27:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Burroughs" <davidlburroughs@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Bartertown
To: Send an Instant Message t2tknkout@yahoo.com
Just wondering if you have shipped my stuff from Bartertown. No sign of it yet. Please let me know what's happening.
David

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:52:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Burroughs" <davidlburroughs@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Please respond ASAP
To: tippmansniper208@hotmail.com
Checking again on the status of my stuff. Please let me know right away what is going on. It has been almost two weeks.
Thanks.
David
(Note this is the e-mail address to which I sent his payment. It came back twice as closed. I then sent the same message to the t2tknkout address.)

I guess I was partially lulled by his first response that the dragon was gone. Seemed an unlikely response for a scammer. But, perhaps a great tactic for a practiced scammer.
David

Le sigh. I've filed a dispute with PayPal, I suggest anybody else who has dealt with this guy does the same. Multiple disputes against the same seller in a week will hopefully get them to decide the dispute in our favor, so we can at least get our money back.

He got me too. I will post proof later!

I suggest you all start your own individual threads on The BTR...

It will help.

Everyone should start their own thread on this guy.


The more exposure the better.

Hey there bartertown folks. I got scammed by this guy over at Dakka. But, it seems I am narrowing down the search for this Jerk. As soon asI can verify a few details I will be glad to post his home and cell phone numbers as well as his home address.

I will also give you the # for the local poice department at that time as well.

ender502

Sounds good, thank you for chiming in.

I paid with a Money Order here is the address he gave me. I will also post in my own complaint:

Nik Kosobucki
208 West Pleasant Street
Stevens Point, WI 54481

Enjoy!

Wisconsin? havent there been a ton of bad trades from wisconsin?
Not that I'm painting them all with the same brush...


-Anglacon

There's no Nik Kosobucki in Stevens Point, WI but there is this:

Deborah Kosobucki
208 W PLEASANT ST
STEVENS POINT, WI 54481
(715) 344-0043

Mom? Wife?


And the Stevens Point, WI Police Deptartment.