Bad Trader - Denrus
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:19 pm
I hate to have to do this, but after the experience with this user, and a couple warnings about this happening, I am forced to have to do this. We had agreed upon a trade of my Khador for CSM he had (see PMs for details). As per general forum guideline/unwritten rule, I shipped my stuff to him first as I had the lower rating. The minis were sent out a little later than I anticipated, and I let Denrus know, and he was good with it. I never received a message from him when the parcel arrived, and only found out it had arrived, and was received, by use of the provided tracking number. I then asked him if he had received it, and indicated that the tracking number had declared as much (this is about two or three days after it had been picked up). He then said he would send his stuff to me, which I then gave my mailing address.
Well, I never received any word from him if he sent the minis out, so I asked him about and he claimed he was busy moving because of school and will, once again, go to the post to send it out. Once again, I did not receive confirmation, or any word, from Denrus with regards to him making it to the post office. I then messaged him twice, and received no response from him. Checking his user login dates, I saw that he had, in fact, logged into BTown both days I contacted him. This then prompted me to threaten with a Bad Trader report, and he apologized and stated he would go to the post the following day or so. And again, I did not receive any word from him with regards to the items making it into the mail. I left it alone for a few days to wait and see if the items would magically appear at my door. When the time frame was up, I made one final commentary about making a bad trade report. He then claimed his surprise by the items not being here and that he would contact the post office the following day. The next day, I messaged him to find out if he had infact spoke with the post office, which brokered no reply. I then sent another message simply asking if he had spoke to the post, if he had used a tracking number and exactly what day he shipped the miniatures off.
As of now, the miniatures have not arrived, and even if they do, I will not trade with this individual again and would highly suggest others do not.
Well, I never received any word from him if he sent the minis out, so I asked him about and he claimed he was busy moving because of school and will, once again, go to the post to send it out. Once again, I did not receive confirmation, or any word, from Denrus with regards to him making it to the post office. I then messaged him twice, and received no response from him. Checking his user login dates, I saw that he had, in fact, logged into BTown both days I contacted him. This then prompted me to threaten with a Bad Trader report, and he apologized and stated he would go to the post the following day or so. And again, I did not receive any word from him with regards to the items making it into the mail. I left it alone for a few days to wait and see if the items would magically appear at my door. When the time frame was up, I made one final commentary about making a bad trade report. He then claimed his surprise by the items not being here and that he would contact the post office the following day. The next day, I messaged him to find out if he had infact spoke with the post office, which brokered no reply. I then sent another message simply asking if he had spoke to the post, if he had used a tracking number and exactly what day he shipped the miniatures off.
As of now, the miniatures have not arrived, and even if they do, I will not trade with this individual again and would highly suggest others do not.
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:26 am
by Denrus
What exactly is a "great starter army" ?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:35 am
by sonsofscurvy
The battle box;
Psorcha
Juggernaut
Destroyer
Then a unit of widow makers, which are a highly recommended unit to bring your game to a legal 15pts. Next we have the marksman solo, a unit of doom reavers, grey lord escort and a unit of grey lord ternion. With this list you can make up to a 25pt list or have a strong foundation for many other lists.
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:24 am
by Denrus
Well I have DV plus and extra lord from it.
8 raptors
10 marines
And lots of bits for trade
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:37 pm
by sonsofscurvy
I would be open to a trade for that if you are.
What condition is everything in?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:04 pm
by Denrus
Everything is primed and two of the chosen and painted decently well
What about your stuff?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:12 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Everything other than 1 doom reaver and the widow makers are painted to a high tabletop standard in a dark alternate to the studio scheme. Pics can be found in the gallery at www.amethysthobbies.com
I have no issue stripping if needed.
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:28 pm
by Denrus
Looks good to me
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:11 pm
by Denrus
How would you like this trade to go?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:15 pm
by sonsofscurvy
I can ship the minis out Friday (payday/day off) if you do the same? I will send the tracking number as well.
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:47 pm
by Denrus
Umm I would prefer if you shipped out first if that's okay with you?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:03 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Yeah sure no prob. Lower rating first?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:51 pm
by Denrus
Yes that is generally the policy
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:05 am
by sonsofscurvy
Yeah cool, no problem. I will still head out friday (payday) to ship the minis to you. Can I get your mailing address?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:26 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Hey man, will be heading out to the post office and realized I need your mailing address.
Also, and hope this isn't a deal breaker, I cannot seem to find one of the bases for the unpainted doom reaver. Is this an issue?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:15 pm
by Denrus
Nah it's fine
REMOVED ADDRESS FOR PRIVACY
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:16 am
by sonsofscurvy
Hi Jay,
Just letting you know I couldn't make it to the post office earlier this week due to a busy schedule at work. I will be stopping there today after my son's baseball game. Sorry for the wait!
Sent: Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:01 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Hey there,
Shipped out today. Should take about 4-6 days. Hope it arrives all in one piece. I did my best to ensure safety.
Here is the tracking number;
LM 006 350 866 CA
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:49 pm
by Denrus
Not a problem life is important!
I shall let you know when your package arrives
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:14 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Hey there,
Just wondering if the package arrived? I see the tracking notice says it has been successfully delivered. Have you sent the chaos out?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:21 pm
by Denrus
Hey the my apologies, they have arrived. I have been quite busy this week as I am moving into a new apartment at the end of the week and college starts. I am hoping to get them out by this weekend. I shall let you know!
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:45 pm
by sonsofscurvy
No worries, not like I can say much because I was a little late getting them out to you aswell! Just let me know when you send 'em! Did you need my address?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:12 pm
by Denrus
Indeed I do!
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:27 pm
by sonsofscurvy
REMOVED ADDRESS FOR PRIVACY
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:30 am
by sonsofscurvy
Just wondering if there was an estimates time when you think you will be able to ship the minis?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:04 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Hey man,
Curious to know when you'll be sending the minis out.
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:26 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Not sure what's going on here. But I have noticed you have signed in today, about 2 hours ago. If you don't intend to ship the items please let me know as a courtesy. I also noticed you had signed in the day I sent my previous message. I obviously don't know if you are reading my messages but I would appreciate some acknowledgment. I would really like to avoid a bad trader report, but if I have to will. I understand stuff happens and comes up, but with you logging in on two occasions after I have sent a message regarding when the chaos items would be shipped and with no response it leaves me wondering. I hope you can appreciate where I am coming from.
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:34 pm
by Denrus
Much apologies your items will be shipping tomorrow, I really sorry stuff got shuffled around when I moved so I had to find everything again but I have everything and it will be going out tomorrow!
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:05 pm
by sonsofscurvy
No worries. I'm not trying to be an ass or anything. I was just growing concerned.
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:32 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Did the stuff manage to find its way into the post? It has been ten days since our last contact. This is the last time I will be contacting with regards to this trade. If the miniatures are sent, great, if not, then I will have to put a time frame of until next wednesday, september 18 for you to have them in the mail, otherwise there will be a Bad Trader post made with all conversation between the two of us posted as per Barter Town forum rules. I do not wish to do this, as I am a generally forgiving guy, but we are coming close to a month since you received my end of the trade (August 17 I believe).
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:34 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Did you ship the items out today?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:09 pm
by Denrus
Mmm they should be there by now... I will be calling the post office tomorrow and figuring this all out I very annoyed with what's happening I sincerely apologize for this in convince
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:31 am
by sonsofscurvy
did you get a tracking number?
Re: W:chaos h:khador
Sent: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:30 pm
by sonsofscurvy
Did you call the post office? Did you use a tracking number? What day did you send them out?