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Well, looks like there's a bit of a trend going now. I too have been involved with this whole Greyjeremy situation and have been without an army for nearly a month now. My name is Noah Borthen and originally arranged to trade my Necrons for his Space Wolves. We initially began the trade on the 6th of June. I have an email with pictures from a matching email address (it's just pictures, no content. I can post here if necessary) as well. I was given a tracking number last Tuesday, but it hasn't updated since Wednesday and the mail was already delivered today


Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:45 pm
by NoahtheRed

Just checking in. The tracking number said it was supposed to be delivered today, but it hasn't updated since it left the sort facility in Bell Gardens, so I wanted to see if you had any idea what was going on.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:39 pm
by NoahtheRed

Well then, I'm greatly appreciative of the gesture. I'll be sure to leave a feedback notice. I also appreciate your communication through this whole thing, as I imagine it's been stressful. Take care.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:49 pm
by grayjeremy

tracking: 9534 6105 7039 3176 3816 16
also I included a new on spru ghost/doomsday ark for your troubles. again srry
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:37 pm
by grayjeremy

jaja tell me about it... I have gad my mail left outside the door... on the side of the street... or left on wrong house by fedex. one time I saw them just pass in a hurry... dident even bother to knock on door. I called and he did have my package (wich he claimed no one was home) but was really just in a hurry... lol I understand that this whole mess has been a real pain. but tomorrow ill send and u don't have to worry your stuff is here, im actually trying to put everything together make sure it matches the list right now
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:08 pm
by NoahtheRed

Yeah, that's fine. I just wanted to get a ballpark of when to expect it. USPS is pretty reliable in my neighborhood, but UPS and Fedex sometimes get lazy and don't follow the instructions on the mailbox (I request boxes be put under the porch)
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:58 pm
by grayjeremy

I plan on taking everything to usps... cause its a few boxes I was told its cheaper. is that ok?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:12 am
by NoahtheRed

Just a quick question: Will you be using UPS, USPS, or Fedex?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:39 pm
by NoahtheRed

Thank you for the update. I was a bit confused once you started talking about two different people being involved so I wanted to be sure I got my lines straightened out. I am sorry that things couldn't have gone better, but I'm just glad that's hopefully doing better. I also appreciate the gesture and would be willing to give it as an example to anyone you trade with in the future for feedback.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:25 pm
by grayjeremy

hey bro, srry bout all the wait. lol cristian who u traded with was in accident. im Jeremy, its been a bit hectic over here. unfortunately gota send your stuff back. I have been going thru messages... found grey monolith so im guessing this stuff is yours. will be mailing back on Tuesday. pls forgive the inconvenience.
I will send tracking on Tuesday. again very srry. ill see if maybe I can throw in some necrons to make up for this.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:35 am
by NoahtheRed

Still haven't heard anything back and am a bit confused. Who was in the wreck, jeremy or cristian? Who am I supposed to be trading with?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:20 am
by NoahtheRed

Just checking in to see if the Space Wolves were shipped off. My (now his) Necrons show as being delivered early Tuesday afternoon so I just wanted to be sure the SW have been sent off.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:54 pm
by NoahtheRed

Okay, sounds good. Pass along to him to just let me know when he ships/tracking number. My necrons should be delivered today via UPS and can be tracked via the number a few messages down. Thanks for the communication and I'm glad to hear he's doing better.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:48 pm
by grayjeremy

well he got mad because I was sending stuff back that I did not know what was going on, or couldent find his end of trade to send... so after we got into all that, he wants to keep doing his trades so he should be mailing the space wolves to u.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:41 pm
by NoahtheRed

I'm a bit confused. I shipped a package last week (some necrons) that will be delivered to you today. Will they be shipped back to me or will Cristian be following through and sending me the space wolves that we had agreed upon? I don't mind either way, but would just like to know what to expect.

-Noah B.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:35 pm
by grayjeremy

ok, here is the deal. I am sending this mssg to everyone I may have inconvenienced in my cousins trades during his absence. I have tried to take over my cousins trades while he was in the hospital (btw I appreciate every ones concerns, he is fine just bruised up) I believed it was best to either send stuff back or try and complete trades, since a few boxes were coming in. to keep it short, my cousin did not think it was the brightest of ideas... anyways he will be concluding his trades shortly. I apologise if I made it more difficult for anyone. there were more trades than I believed to be (just yesterday another box arrived) so for everyone I mailed items to (I hope they were the right ones) and for every ones package that was sent back I apologise. some items I do not even know where they are at. any way, because of differences I am leaving this account to my cousin cristian and will be starting my own. I am certain he will be updating it with his own email. he assured he will be taking over his trades and fixing anything that needed fixing. again I apologise for any inconvenience I may have caused and cristian should be back taking care of his trades shortly.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:17 am
by NoahtheRed

I'm sorry to hear about your brother. Thank you for letting me know. Out of curiosity, when did it happen? I will let you know if I receive anything and if you don't mind, let me know when my package arrives. I have tracking on it, but UPS can be kind of flaky sometimes. I'll keep your brother in my thoughts.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:03 am
by grayjeremy

Hey, my bro was in an accident. Wont be home in a few weeks. Apperantly he made a few trades. Since i dont know exactlly what he was trading or where some of these boxes are going to. Im gona have to mail everything that comes in back. I will be putting $10 in each of the boxes to help with the inconvinience. Again very srry, he should be back in a few weeks. If he already mailed your stuff and it arrives, pls dont take advantage by keeping both sides of trade. Get back to him in a few weeks to come up with something.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:06 am
by NoahtheRed

Just checking in. Shipped yesterday and it should be to you by Tuesday the latest (my experience has shown that on x-country journeys, UPS tends to be quicker than they estimate). Let me know the tracking info when you ship.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:18 pm
by NoahtheRed

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Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:59 pm
by grayjeremy

Yep, trade still good
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:52 am
by NoahtheRed

We still good to trade? I'm going to be hopefully hitting the post office this afternoon and will send the tracking info to you when I get it.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:32 pm
by grayjeremy

Ok no worries, it works for me. I would really like codex but not sure what else i can throw in there for it. Ill have a look when i get home?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:32 pm
by grayjeremy

Ok no worries, it works for me. I would really like codex but not sure what else i can throw in there for it. Ill have a look when i get home?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:27 pm
by NoahtheRed

I just realized I won't be able to ship until Monday (a friend of mine is using my army on Sunday to learn how to play). Eitherway, I'll get that tracking number to you as soon as I ship.

Noah Borthen
346 51st street
Newport News, VA
23607

Yeah, there aren't any conversions. Everything is basically as it was from the box. The monolith could probably use a stripping. I primed it a while back, anticipating that I'd eventually paint it....which was a lie, because I didn't want to paint anything that big. Eitherway, it's all pretty self-explanatory. I'm sending them with their tacklebox holders. The only models that don't fit in there are the blades, the stalker, and the monolith. Everything will be packed using foam and such. Do you need/want the codex?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:20 pm
by grayjeremy

Great, well u mentiond what painted... If i dont like i usually just prime over it lol.
As long as there are no conversions

Cristian real
424 1/2 east 30th st
National city, ca. 91950


Where will i be mailing stuff? Since u have less feedback ill mail as soon as i get tracking number pmed, post office closes at 3 pct, if u can send tracking number by two ill have it out by tommorow as well
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:03 pm
by NoahtheRed

Sounds good then. Do you have any questions for me? Either way, I think we can do a trade. Where are you located? I can get stuff packed up to go out tomorrow morning possibly.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:47 pm
by grayjeremy

Logan is actually resin
And its two speeders
And i do have all the bits that come in the box that are not on the units, saved all the original sprues
Lol and no worries, im really cautious when trading too
But yeah other than that it is accurate
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:46 pm
by grayjeremy

Logan is actually resin
And its two speeders
And i do have all the bits that come in the box that are not on the units, saved all the original sprues
Lol and no worries, im really cautious when trading too
But yeah other than that it is accurate
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:21 pm
by NoahtheRed

Yeah, I hate to ask, but I just like to know what I'm getting. I've been burned a few times trading paintball gear so I always get stuff in writing when possible I play to magnetize the termis and probably the razorback.

As I understand it currently...

Logan Grimnar (Metal?)
10 Wolf Guard Termis (Loadouts?)
20 Grey Hunters (varied loadouts, hoping for 4 x Plasma guns and 2 x power axes)
3 attack bikes with heavy bolters
1 Speeder (unknown loadout)
1 LR (unknown loadout)
1 Razorback

Let me know if there are details you know about. Again, sorry to be picky, but I just figure having everything in writing is a good idea. I hope you understand.
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:19 pm
by grayjeremy

O yeah just remembered, have a box of bits if u wana change weapons
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:17 pm
by grayjeremy

O yeah just remembered, have a box of bits if u wana change weapons
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:16 pm
by grayjeremy

Havent used them in a whike id have to look them up. Yeah no blue speeder and no razorback. Just noticed those were there. Actually razorback i can throw in but not the blue speeder
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:13 pm
by NoahtheRed

You wouldn't by chance have a list of what weapons are on there? I see heavy bolters on the attack bikes and could make out what looks like an TH/SS combo on one of the termis, but couldn't identify much else. Also, is it just the one Speeder or three?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:55 am
by NoahtheRed

Noah.the.red@gmail.com
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:54 am
by grayjeremy

Ofcourse, u have an email i can send to?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:02 am
by NoahtheRed

I'm in VA. Do you have pics?
Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:07 pm
by grayjeremy

Hi, i have

Logan grimnar
10 wolfguard terminators
20 wolfmarines
Land raider
Two speeders and three atack bikes

All unpainted, let me know if u like to trade, and what area id be shipping to. Thx









Subject: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves

NoahtheRed wrote:
I've got about 1000-ish points in Necrons that I'm looking to trade for about the same in Space Wolves. In particular, I'm looking for infantry out the ying-yang (Termi Wolf Guard, Grey Hunters, and Long Fangs) as well as Dreads and drop pods. I'm not too picky about painted/not painted, but I would prefer unpainted or even still on sprue. I'd also trade for a pair of Battleforces. That said, you can probably see where I'm going with this....

Either way, here's what I've got:

-Trazyn the Infinite still in his Blisterpack
-Trazyn's the Infinite primed with a small hole in his pauldron (the blister pack one was a replacement from GW)
-Overlord with Warscythe primed
-Lord with Staff of Light and Res orb painted and based

-24 Necron warriors....about 10 are painted and the rest are somewhere between painted and primed
-3 Necron Tomb Blades that are primed and partially painted black
-4 built scarab swarms (1 painted) and pieces for 2 more
-5 Triarch Lychguard (sword/shield) primed
-Triarch Stalker painted black with dry brushing and stuff and obviously not by me (ie: it looks pretty damn good)....not pro-painted, but definitely a step above table-ready
-Monolith with about 2 different coats of primer (it's grey currently and looks decent)

Enough bits to modify and/or update pieces as necessary.
I'll also throw in some plastic tackle boxes that neatly carry everything.

The Warriors/Lord that are painted are gold with gunmetal and blue. They look pretty good and have their rods. The rods for everyone else are with the bits.

If you are interested, I can do specific pictures. It's best to PM me. Good luck, godspeed, and may the winds of the north always fill your sails.

Here is a link to the imgur gallery with my pics in it

Mods are going to ask you to clean up that report - it needs to be in chronological order, with the oldest post being first/at the top of the post.

Yeah, I realized after I posted that that was the case. Unfortunately, I don't appear to be able to edit my own post....a tad bit silly.

Their is no editing (except my Admins) in this sub. you'll need to just repost it.

1) We don't delete BTR's unless they're invalid. You'll just need to repost the information in THIS thread.
2) You do not HAVE to post it in chronological order... you're not likely to get a bunch of people helping you if you don't, though.
3) You should look at the other BTR's on him. He is allegedly making good on them all. You might find *ahem* contact information for him in one of them. : )


Eric

Well, my models arrived today but they are a number of issues.

First, there are numerous broken models and the packing looks like someone did it in a rush. The following models arrived damage:

-Tomb Stalker with a broken leg, pauldron, torso, spine piece, and upper half. This was wrapped in foam to him, but loose in the box when returned.
-All three tomb blades are pretty trashed. Like, probably not going to be able to repair them trashed. These were packed in foam in their own separate containers to him, but were lose in the box when returned.
-The Metal Lord has broken arms
-Numerous arms, shields, heads, and weapons on the warriors and lychguard are broken
-The monolith is partially broken on one side
-There are random bits and pieces at the bottom of the box (which wasn't sealed well)

I'm missing NIB Finecast Trazyn the Infinite as well.

He included a Ghost ark kit, NOS......but frankly, I rather just have gotten my stuff back in one piece.

Odds are I'll have to replace the Tomb Blades and redo a lot of my other units. I don't know where my Trazyn is though, which is quite angering.

So there you have it, this was a poor choice.

I don't know if this is the right place to do this, or if I'm allowed to do this, but I imagine a mod will smack me down if I'm wrong.

I just wanted to say two things.

1.) It sounds to me as if you're not yet made whole, so don't tell the mods you consider this resolved. Leave it open and occasionally remind them (whoever this trade was made with) they have not yet made you whole and that you do not yet consider this resolved.

2.) Please take a moment to leave them a negative trade reference. I just checked this person's references because I know that there are multiple BTRs open, and their references do not show a single negative reference. As a member of this community I'm sorry you've been through all of this, but I hope you'll leave them the negative reference they seem to deserve so as to protect other members of the community.

I don't think that post is off topic. I find both pieces of advice to be very pertinent.

@Noah - Email or PM him and let him know what it will take to make it right.


Eric

I messaged him last night about the missing Finecast Trazyn, as that's my first priority. From there, I'll see what can be done about the broken Tomb Blades. The included Ghost Ark was a nice gesture, but I honestly would have rather just gotten back my stuff the way I sent it. I've packed and shipped minis many times and this was simply just poor packing entirely. Fragile jetbikes with lots of bits just loose in the box? Seriously? I'll update this post as we get along, so no, it's not considered resolved.

I've copy/pasted the back and forth since last tuesday.

Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:34 pm
by NoahtheRed

We've got some problems.

The following items were loose in the box and broken:

-All three tomb blades are basically trashed. Most of the bits are broken and/or bent.
-The tomb stalker came back in 5 pieces. It's salvagable, but not without some time and repainting.
-The metal Lord has broken arms.
-Many of the minis in the cases are broken. Heads, weapons, and arms.
-The monolith has a broken side. It's repairable, but non-the-less frustrating.

The tomb blades and stalker were all packed carefully in foam (and in their own containers in the case of the tomb blades) and everything else was sealed quite well when I shipped them off. I've traveled with these minis in their respective cases many times and never had damage like this.

Additionally, the Finecast Trazyn the Infinite is missing entirely.

I appreciate the Ghost Ark, but frankly I rather have gotten my pieces back in one piece at this point.

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Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:41 pm
by grayjeremy

Really srry, i tried sending everything back how it was. Ill look for tranzyn. I thought i had packaged well.

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Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:50 pm
by NoahtheRed

Please do. I hate to appear pushing, but he's pretty central to my whole army and while I can hopefully rebuilt everything else.....he's very necessary

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Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:34 pm
by grayjeremy

Hey, srry there is no more necrons here

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Re: H: Necrons W: Space Wolves
Sent: Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:45 pm
by NoahtheRed

Did someone else send Necrons that ended up getting returned? How are you going to solve this issue?

I also emailed the address I had from getting pics, but no response. I"m guessing that getting my finecast back, as well as my Tomb Blade issue solve is going to be very difficult, if not impossible.

Here is the email response. The email address is Jeremy's, but apparently Cristian is responding to that too.

J g
3:35 AM (5 hours ago)

to me
trading. Spent $250 in returning this stuff when really i think i should have left everything, and have everyone waiting on my cousin to deal with. All i did was try and send people their stuff back to kinda help. Honestlly i have gotten nothing but bs for doing this. Its not your fault and it sucks that u are at a loss but i dident have to do any of this either. Honestlly how do u even know tge tomb blades dident arrive here like that? If seriouslly u want me to buy u new stuff for trades i dident make? If u wana get into detail then u can work things out with my cousin once his better, and i will let him know about the arc so he can get that back incase he buys u new *edit*


I'm not declaring this resolved, but I'm just going to go ahead and move on. If anyone else dealt with him/them and happened to get a bonus Finecast Trazyn the Infinite, let me know. It's unfortunate that I'm having to sort of this mess, but such is life on the internet. Caveat emptor, I suppose.

He hasn't responded in a while, so I'm just gonna say it's resolved. I lost a finecast mini and essentially 3 tomb blades, but I gained a still-on-sprue ark so whatever. Not ideal, and certainly won't deal with him again, but it's over. I left feedback.

Either it's resolved, or it's not. Giving up on it is not the same.
If he has not made good, then it's still unresolved.

Eric