BTR- grayjeremy(Jeremy Gonzalez and Cristian Real)

[Gph0313]

Hello my name is Glenn Hodges. I put up an post to trade some Eldar, CSM, and Daemons. I was emailed by Jeremy Gonzalez. We agreed to trade my eldar army for his necron. I mailed my army out on army on June 8. Jeremy never sent out the Necrons. Here is the chain of events.

From: Jeremy Gonzalez
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: trade
June 6
Hey, i have a necron army if u would like to trade.

Have all hqs exept orikan and overlord
15 immortals w tesla
15 immortals with gause
60 warriors
10 deathmarks
3 stalkers
1 ghost ark
1 doomsday ark
1 monolith
3 annihilation barges
5 wraith
1 scythe nib
All unpainted. If u would like to trade, where would i be mailing?
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Fr: Glenn Hodges
To: Jeremy Gonzalez
Re: trade
June 7, 2013
Do you want eldar, chaos, and the daemons?
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June 7,2013
Hi jeremy,
My name is Glenn Hodges. Are the wraiths the new or old? Doesn't make an difference, just fyi. I will definitely trade with you. Just wanted to know if you wanted the stuff for all the necrons or just the eldar.
My address is 30 millhaven ct, edgewater, md 21037
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From: Jeremy Gonzalez
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: trade
June 7
New wraiths, and just want eldar
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: Jeremy Gonzalez
Re: trade
June 7
Sounds great. If we are close enough we could do an in person trade. If not, what is your address? I have some bitz, an eldrad and maugen ra i will add. Both are metal and painted.

Glenn
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From: Jeremy Gonzalez
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: trade
June 7
Cristian real
424 1/2 east 30th st
National city, ca. 91950

Hey glenn, do u have any feedback on btown?
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: Jeremy Gonzalez
Re: trade
June 7
No, I don't. This is my first transaction on bartertown.
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From: Jeremy Gonzalez
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: trade
June 7
Ok, thats fine. Are u familiar with standard btown rules or traded online before?
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: Jeremy Gonzalez
Re: trade
June 7
I have read the rules. It would be easiest to talk on the phone. To get on the same page.
Please call me -----------

Thanks
Glenn
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From: Jeremy Gonzalez
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: trade
June 7
Sure, once i get a few min from work. I just wanted to make sure u send me tracking number after u ship, that way i know for sure since u have no feedback so i can ship as well. And i will send u tracking number as soon as i do
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: Jeremy Gonzalez
Re: trade
June 7
I will get everything packaged tonight and shipped in the morning.
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From: Jeremy Gonzalez
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: trade
June 7
Perfect, i will package and send tommorow afternoon then. Thank u again
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: Jeremy Gonzalez
Re: trade
June 8
Tracking number; 9505 5105 6408 3159 3697 47
I also sent an picture of the receipt.
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From: Jeremy Gonzalez
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: shipping receipt
June 8
Hey, dident make it today but will get off earlly to work on monday to get it done
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: Jeremy Gonzalez
Re: shipping receipt
June 10
What's the word?
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From: J G
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: shipping receipt
June 10
Srry, got really busy at work, wasent able to leave. I was promissed wednesday off so it would be by then at the latest
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: J G
Re: shipping receipt
June 11
Sounds good. Thanks
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From: J G
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: shipping receipt
June 13

Hey, my bro was in an accident. Wont be home in a few weeks. Apperantly he made a few trades. Since i dont know exactlly what he was trading or where some of these boxes are going to. Im gona have to mail everything that comes in back. I will be putting $10 in each of the boxes to help with the inconvinience. Again very srry, he should be back in a few weeks.
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: J G
Re: shipping receipt
June 13
Sorry to hear about your bro. Here is what I sent to him:
Farseer primed based blue
Wraith lord metal primed multiple weapons
5 wraithguard metal primed
Avatar
3jetbikes
36 guardians
7 dire avengers base coated
1 dire avenger base coated
4dark reapers base coated
1 dr exarch
Vyper primed missing glass
Falcon primed missing glass
Eldrad painted
Magen ra painted
Lots of extra bits

i was trading for the following. It should of been boxed up already.
(Hey, i have a necron army if u would like to trade. )

Have all hqs exept orikan and overlord
15 immortals w tesla
15 immortals with gause
60 warriors
10 deathmarks
3 stalkers
1 ghost ark
1 doomsday ark
1 monolith
3 annihilation barges
5 wraith
1 scythe nib

Either the necrons or my eldar will be fine. Shipping was $15.
Glenn Hodges
30 millhaven ct
Edgewater, md 21037
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From: J G
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: shipping receipt
June 13
Ok, your eldar box is here and the necron army u mentioned i dont see. So he might have already shipped the necrons to you. I will box and ship the eldar just incase.
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: J G
Re: shipping receipt
June 13
Ok. That sounds good. If the necrons show up. I will send back the eldar.

What happened? Is jeremy going to recover?

Glenn
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: J G
Re: shipping receipt
June 17
Did you ship the eldar? If so, what is the tracking number?

Glenn

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From: J G
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: shipping receipt
June 18
ok, here is the deal. I am sending this mssg to everyone I may have inconvenienced in my cousins trades during his absence. I have tried to take over my cousins trades while he was in the hospital (btw I appreciate every ones concerns, he is fine just bruised up) I believed it was best to either send stuff back or try and complete trades, since a few boxes were coming in. to keep it short, my cousin did not think it was the brightest of ideas... anyways he will be concluding his trades shortly. I apologise if I made it more difficult for anyone. there were more trades than I believed to be (just yesterday another box arrived) so for everyone I mailed items to (I hope they were the right ones) and for every ones package that was sent back I apologise. some items I do not even know where they are at. any way, because of differences I am leaving this account to my cousin cristian and will be starting my own. I am certain he will be updating it with his own email. he assured he will be taking over his trades and fixing anything that needed fixing. again I apologise for any inconvenience I may have caused and cristian should be back taking care of his trades shortly.

(btown message)
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: J G
Re: shipping receipt
June 21
Jeremy,

What is the time frame for cristian to get his stuff out? I emailed you last week and you said you were sending back my eldar army. I did not receive an tracking number or any email stating said package was shipped. No packages have shown up to me yet. It has been 3 weeks since our deal was made and I mailed out my part of it. This needs to be resolved ASAP.

Glenn
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From: J G
To: Glenn Hodges
Re: shipping receipt
June 23
hey, can u pls message on btown sending me your address. still have your stuff. been kinda crazy over here. I still have your stuff. sending it on Tuesday for sure. really srry for delay
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From: Glenn Hodges
To: J G
Re: shipping receipt
June 23
Glenn hodges
30 Millhaven ct
Edgewater, md 21037
I immediately sent my address again by pm to grayjeremy.
My address should still be on the box I mailed to cristian.

[Remedy4389]

Well this is interesting since I also traded a bunch of Menoth stuff for his necron army. I'm hoping thisngrts resolved for everyone.

[Gph0313]

When did he contact you about trading?

[Remedy4389]

June 7th. I'm gonna throw my thread up later tonight

[Gph0313]

The value of my eldar is over $500.00. That is enough to qualify for grand theft. The emails are submitable in court.

[Remedy4389]

Mine was around $300. He said everything is supposed to be getting shipped back tomorrow but I'm not holding my breath right now. I'm gonna file mail fraud Wednesday if he doesn't send me the tracking info like he promised.

[TheOgreTyrant]

Anyone else pick up on that his relative "taking care of the shipping" first claimed to be his brother, then his cousin? That right there is a huge red flag.
This guy seems like a scammer to me. Especially since he " traded" (meaning never sent) two people the same army

[tordeck]

Remedy, I would suggest preparing your own bad trade thread and posting it up. Also take a minute to read the rules for doing so. They can be found here - http://www.bartertown.com/trading/viewt ... 3&t=103202

[Remedy4389]

Yeah I'm planning on it later this evening after work.

[MagickalMemories]

This thread is NOT for idle chit-chat. Please, take discussions of anything not SPECIFICALLY related to this BTR to PM.

There are 8 responses to this thread and, aside from the OP, only the message by TheOgreTyrant should be here (though, Tordek can be overlooked, considering the circumstances).

Thanks.

Eric

[grayjeremy]

lol umm ok
1. bro= brother? I call some of u bro... I don't see anyone accusing of being called my brother. by my bro I meant my cousin.
2. u were trading with cristian who isent doing well, wich is why I Jeremy am involved sending everything back
3. what was done was done with no malicious intent, no one was meant to be screwed and no one has been screwed
4. your stuff is in the mail with tracking numbers in your inbox.

[MagickalMemories]

lol umm ok
1. bro= brother? I call some of u bro... I don't see anyone accusing of being called my brother. by my bro I meant my cousin.
2. u were trading with cristian who isent doing well, wich is why I Jeremy am involved sending everything back
3. what was done was done with no malicious intent, no one was meant to be screwed and no one has been screwed
4. your stuff is in the mail with tracking numbers in your inbox.

Presuming everything you said is true (and I'm not making accusations that it isn't), then all will be well and good when the recipients have received their models in good order.

On a side note... Were they dealing with CRISTIAN or were they dealing with YOU as a proxy for Cristian?

Thanks.

Eric

[grayjeremy]

yep all should be good.
cristian

[MagickalMemories]

yep all should be good.
cristian

What does this mean? Is the second line an answer to my question?

On a side note... Were they dealing with CRISTIAN or were they dealing with YOU as a proxy for Cristian?

Eric

[grayjeremy]

Means the stuff that was here was matched to stuff listed and sent back.
And line two was the answer to your question