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Posted: **Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:47 pm**

Redemtion contacted me about some models had that he wanted to trade. Supposedly he was clearing out the last of his ork stuff in order to fund a new chaos army. He supposedly has a NIB set of Bikers, and a NIB Baneblade. He only wanted $70 and when I hesitated and said I'd think about it, he said he'd dug out his closet a bit and found a half-built Deff Dread that he'd throw in. I had been a bit suspect as a Deff Dread and Baneblade for $70 is a hilariously good deal, and as they say, "If it's too good to be true, it probably is." After I sent the money, he confirmed that he'd gotten it, and when I tried to contact him on the 3rd, I received no response up until this point.

Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:23 pm
i have 3 new in the box orc bikers and a new in box baneblade will take 80 shipped for both let me know can send pic
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:26 pm
How negotiable are you on that price? I'm expecting that's around $30 for the bikers and $50 for the Baneblade, and honestly that's not a great price. I've see those kind of prices all around eBay and such.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:42 pm
im pretty open on it , and i checked ebay before giving you a price NIB baneblades are 86$+ but this is bartertown so shoot me a counter and well see what we can do.
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:54 pm
Really? I could have sworn I'd seen more than a couple go for around $50. I know I was kicking myself after cause I forgot to watch the auction more carefully and let it slip by. Also, I assume you have no interest in Magic cards, right?
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:56 pm
not really no been out of the game way to long to really have any interest in it anymore think the last block i played was the ninja / samurai themed block but lowest i think i could do for both is 68 shipped let me know or counter i sapose they are just sitting here as ive moved on to a different army
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:00 pm
I was actually thinking about offering $70. I'll say let's go with my number, but first I'd like to work out some issues I'm having with another trader. He's SUPPOSED to be sending me a baneblade and I honestly don't know what I'd do with the other one. But then again, it's a goddamn Baneblade. Who wouldn't want two....or like....TWENTY!?
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:03 pm
no kidding LOL!! i had planned on using 2 in my ork army looted baneblades are so sexy looking haha
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:07 pm
I'll keep you in mine, definitely. Just curious. When could you should that stuff out.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:08 pm
well just let me know ive got a bunch of stuff i have to ship out tomorrow and for convenience sake letting me know tonight would be for both of us as i can ship it when i go to the post tomorrow.
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:09 pm
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRGH! You make it so hard NOT to spend my monies. Y U DO THIS!? I'll think about it when I'm out tonight.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:12 pm
lol that was sent before you asked me when i could ship haha its cool though just let me know , cheers
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:17 pm
by Redemtion086
lol not to sway you any but i totaly just found a def dread i had starting assembling just legs on the base id throw in on it as its the last of my ork stuff the things you find when you actually clean your hobby room closet
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:19 pm
...Throw in for how much?
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:21 pm
free? no extra monies.....i have no use for it youed be buying what was left of my ork stuff so its just gonna rot so why not just add it in for a fellow git!....well im no git anymore im a heretic now!
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:23 pm
Two things:
1) Frag you for making that deal impossible to turn down.
2) Frag you for going to CHAOS of all things! Well, at least you're not Dark Eldar or Daemons... Those things are just...unnatural.

I assume that Dread has all the parts, just not fully built?
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:29 pm
yes its a complete model i just looked and the only bits cut from the sprue where the legs and arms and the legs are on the base and arms where in the box so yes 100% there
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Well, looks like I can't possibly pass this chance up. Just to be on the safe side, could you take some pictures. I'll probably send you the money when I get home later tonight.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:56 pm
sure thing bud.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:35 pm
here ya go bud

bikers and baneblade.jpg
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:44 pm
Looks good. I'll send the money when I get home.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:55 pm
by Redemtion086
sounds good heres my paypal info and if you could shoot me your address so i can get this boxed up that would be great ive got a stack of packages i have to send out tomorrow and wana make sure it gets off with them saves me time =)

Paypal address

redemtion086@gmail.com
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:02 pm
[Address REDACTED]
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:40 pm
by Redemtion086
so will i be sending the bane blade bikers and def out to you or have you changed your mind?
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:43 pm
You are, I just haven't gotten home yet. Don't worry
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:58 pm
lol ok sorry i just saw you online and figured id ask apparently the old saying is true when you "assume" you make an ass out of you and me lol
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:01 pm
It's fine. There's another old saying, "Better safe than sorry."
I've just been on my tablet, checking messages on here.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:02 pm
lol true enough
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:38 pm
out of curiosity what did you have for CSM bits?
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:49 pm
Mostly stuff along the lines of Chaos vehicle sprues and such like that. I do have some random bits and bobbins floating around. What were you looking for?
Also, I just got home so expect that payment within 10 minutes.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:53 pm
ok sounds good , and stuff that seems impossible to find such as thousand sons heads terminator arms defiler legs / monstrous claws chaos pred main gun stuff like that
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ShadowMage - Sent: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:58 pm
Sadly I don't think I have any of that stuff. The stuff I have seems pretty mundane, but I don't know too much about Chaos bits.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:01 am
ah figured id give it a go lol dont hurt to try lol
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ShadowMage - Sent: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:04 am
Not a problem. Did you happen to get that payment?
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:06 am
yes i did lol and i like the bit about buying nice cultist haha they better be wearing lots of gold chains and diamonds if there 70 bucks hahahaha
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ShadowMage - Sent: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:08 am
Or at the very least, dance. Or be self-replicating. I think that's the best option of the three. I don't know what it is, but it would be wonderful to see just the max amount of cultists being drove forward by a withering barrage of Havoc fire from behind. But that's just me. I like lots of fire power and swarms. Small wonder I play orks.
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Redemtion086 - Sent: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:10 am
lol that was the most enjoyable part of orks for me being able to field ungodly amounts of troops for very little points and making your opponents army look like a boy scout squad where as your orks look like a pissed off 3rd world country hahaha
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ShadowMage - Sent: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:09 pm
I assume shipping that stuff went well? Any idea when I can expect that stuff?

Supporting Information:
I've got an e-mail from PayPal, but I do not know how to post it here in a reasonable format.
The guy's e-mail address is: redemtion086@gmail.com
I sent an e-mail to that address and he hasn't responded to that either. I can only assume that he created that e-mail just to scam.

I've tried contacting PayPal about getting my money back, but the process has been slow at best. I'm planning to call them later today in an effort to speed the process.

Posted: **Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:25 pm**

This person is no longer a member here. MM gave him/her a long vacation. Please check the other BTR reports for direction given by MM about it. Basically, contact your local police and the police in CT. When you go local have as much paper work you can get in hand.

Good luck.

Jason

Posted: **Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:53 pm**

Here you go.
Copied from other BTR's. Thanks for posting your own:

I had a few spare minutes, so I contacted his local police department.
I spoke with Detective Curtis (Norwich PD 860-886-5561, Detective Division). Here is what must be done to get their assistance (Forgive me, if you've already done any of this. It is a generic message I'm posting to all of the BTR's.):

Visit your local PD or Sheriff's office and file a report on him.
BRING YOUR PROOF:
Bring a printed copy of EVERY PM or Email you exchanged. Have them in the order that they were sent/received.
--Even include your own in this, as it will show a complete line of communication.
Bring a list of everything you sent and the current MSRP. If you can provide a print out from the appropriate web site, then all the better. If the items you sent were OOP or (like a Hellbrute) not available individually, bring a few examples that show the aftermarket SALE price of these items (note: eBay COMPLETED auctions on SOLD items would work well for this).
File the report and ask them to follow up with the Norwich PD to ask them to take action on it. Detective Curtis said this is the only way they will take action on your complaint, so make sure your PD knows this and BE PERSISTENT!

This is my own personal advice:
Ask the officer/detective to let you know after he has successfully contacted the Norwich PD.
Ask when you can expect to hear back from him.
If he does not call you on that day, you call him the following one.
Be persistent (I can't say this enough). Stay on them to get the help you want and need.

If you encounter anything during your experience that you think might be helpful (an officer gives you advice or you have success when saying a certain thing), PLEASE post that information into your own thread and all of the other Redemtion086 threads.
If you find out who is working your case in Norwich, PLEASE post that information into your own thread and all of the other Redemtion086 threads.

Eric

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:44 am**

He has ripped off a large number of people on DakkaDakka:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/po ... 23737.page

If you are unaware of the situation over there, please, visit the link above. You can organize with some of the other affected individuals to strengthen the case against this guy.

Eric

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:39 pm**

scud1703 wrote:Just an update....

From: James Curtis [mailto:jcurtis@cityofnorwich.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:45 PM
To: Bauer, Austin
Subject:

Austin,

I recovered 11 boxes of parts, pieces and completed or semi-completed models from 80 Chestnut Street about 1 hr ago. I am tied up with something else now so I will reach out to you tomorrow to see what we will do next. This is a lot of stuff and it is going to take some time to go through it all.

James Curtis, Detective

Polygraph Unit

City of Norwich, CT Police Department

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