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On October 7th I PMed Thegersh about some a GW case he had. We agreed that I would pay him $20 and a box of Assault terminators. I sent him $20 via PayPal on October 11th and mailed the terminators out on October 9th. On the 12th, he acknowledged receiving the items, He said he would ship them out that day but then messaged me back saying he forgot and would send them out on the next monday. He never sent them out nor did he reply back to me once. I’ve sent him PMs asking where the case is I have seen he has read one of these messages but has quit logging on here.

Here are the messages.

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Subject: W: SM, DA H: IG

TheGersh wrote:Hello B-town. I have some IG here and I'm looking for just about any SM or DA thing you have. So here is a list of what I have an what I want...


Have-
17 Cadian shock troops - Majority painted
2 cadian sergeants (metal)
Commissar w/ power fist (metal) - Primed
Heavy weapons teams x3 w/ auto cannons x3 w/ lascannons
1leman russes (battle cannon w/ heavy bolter sponsons) painted
1 colossus (made from basalisk) painted
GW case with KR multi-case GW sized foam
Crap ton of IG bits (heavy weapons, Tank sprues, Dozer blades, Special weapons, Etc.)


Wants -
Ravenwing (DV) bikers
mini rule book from (DV)
any speeders
any attack bikes
any Terminators (including AoBR)
any oop SM tanks
any DA Hq's
Land speeder weapons (assualt cannons mainly, but open to all)
Raven wing bits
DA bits
Dev. squad heavy bolters


Open to all offers just shoot me a PM.Thanks for looking please PM fro any questions.
-Daniel




What would you like for your case I have a NOS box of assault Termies some painted old termies on the small base.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:07 pm
by TheGersh
Can I get some pics of the other Terminators? email to utbleedorange@gmail.com

-Thanks, Daniel

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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:14 pm
by Yoshidwyn
To be honest the more I look at them I think I want to keep the made up termies since they were a gift sorry for mentioning them.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:19 pm
by TheGersh
haha, its all good. well what do you want to throw in with the assualt termies?

-Daniel
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:27 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Maybe some money?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:51 pm
by TheGersh
yeah I cant do that. 30+the Termies sound fair? thatll cover shipping cost an all.

-Daniel
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:53 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Can I see the case first and how big is it exactly?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:53 pm
by Yoshidwyn
[email edit by Admin] is my e-mail address
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:07 pm
by TheGersh
Sure thing, whats your email?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:09 pm
by Yoshidwyn
[email edit by Admin]
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:13 pm
by TheGersh
Ok, just sent it.

-Daniel
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:23 pm
by TheGersh
what do you think?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:25 pm
by Yoshidwyn
its not too bad Would you do 20 with shipping maybe?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:30 pm
by TheGersh
So the termies+20$?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:30 pm
by Yoshidwyn
yes
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:32 pm
by TheGersh
Yeah that sounds fine. Is everything still on the sprues? You mind shipping/paying first since you have no feedback?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:38 pm
by Yoshidwyn
I have no problem paying and I guess shipping first.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:45 pm
by TheGersh
Sounds great, Thanks for the trade an welcome to B-town!!
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:36 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Hi can I get your paypal and address so I can send the money to you and ship the stuff thanks.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:57 pm
by TheGersh
Paypal is Utbleedorange@gmail.com

Address is-
Daniel Gschwind
P.O. Box 85
Vass, NC 28394

Thanks!
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:03 pm
by Yoshidwyn
So when you get the Marines will you then mail the case out to me?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:15 pm
by TheGersh
Yeah, same day.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:59 pm
by Yoshidwyn
here is the delivery confirmation number

o3121430000089644955
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:49 pm
by TheGersh
Ok awesome.

-Thanks, Daniel
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:02 pm
by Yoshidwyn
eerrrrr that o at the beginning of the number should be a 0
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:37 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Hey just sent you the money.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:02 am
by TheGersh
Hey got your stuff today! I will send out your stuff today aswell. Ill give you a confermation number.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:47 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Just wondering if you got that tracking number?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:10 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Did you get a chance to send stuff out yesterday?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:48 pm
by TheGersh
I didn't not. the post office closed at 12. I am sorry it will go out Monday, don't worry I won't *edit* you.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:15 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Hey you mail it off?
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:29 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Hey was curious if the case got sent out I know people have things come up in life was just curious.
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Re: W: SM, DA H: IG

Sent: Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:35 pm
by Yoshidwyn
Hi I was wondering if you would respond if not I will be forced to put in a bad trader report.

Incase you lost my address here it is.

e-mail address
Utbleedorange@gmail.com

Here is his name and address

Daniel Gschwind
P.O. Box 85
Vass, NC 28394

and now confirmation number

03121430000089644955

So thats all of it. Sadly I am out a cash and a box of assault termies and my first trade fell through. I think I filled this out correctly sorry if i didn't please dont yell at me lol.

Just a suggestion - remove your contact info from the messages. The mods don't need that to follow up, and you don't want forum bots getting ahold of your e-mail.

Can't edit my post.

Right! You can't edit posts in this forum. Maybe the admins will be nice and do it for you. I guess it's more of a memo in case you ever have to (hopefully not) post here again.

I found a Timothy W Gschwind at that PO box, and I also found this, nearby:

Timothy W Gschwind
Home (910) 245-6594
3330 US Highway 1 N
Southern Pines, NC 28387
Age: 50-54

Judging by the age, that's probably dad.
Try giving him a call.


Eric

Yoshidwyn wrote:Incase you lost my address here it is.

e-mail address
Utbleedorange@gmail.com

<snip>

I thought that was HIS email address?

Eric

Is that I mean that seems like a really [edit] move. I guess being new to this I just don't know how to handle such a situation.

here's your guy...

https://www.facebook.com/daniel.gersh.92

J.

and the proof of it:
https://www.facebook.com/11thCompanyLea ... 9585468827

first comment got his email address stated in...

he posted on facebook the 10/21...

Yoshidwyn wrote:Is that I mean that seems like a really [edit] move. I guess being new to this I just don't know how to handle such a situation.

Yeah. It's much worse than owing stuff to someone and just ignoring him. Right?
Why is is a d*** move to use whatever legal means necessary to retrieve what you're rightfully owed?

Also... I edited your post. Keep in mind that we're a kid-friendly forum and not ALL "bad words" are filtered.

Eric

Relative:
http://www.facebook.com/timothy.gschwind

Relative:
http://www.facebook.com/chris.gschwind.1

Girlfriend:
http://www.facebook.com/kaylamarie729

I'd imagine that one of these 3 can get a message to him for you, if you message them.

Also, I can confirm that's him because the email address he used here is the same as the one attached to that profile.

Eric

MagickalMemories wrote:

Yoshidwyn wrote:Incase you lost my address here it is.

e-mail address
Utbleedorange@gmail.com

<snip>

I thought that was HIS email address?

Eric

Sorry that was just bad editing. on my part I though i put enough spaces to show that it was all different my bad. and sorry about the cuss didnt cross my mind. I messaged all people and will call shortly and update thank you all for the help this community so far is quite nice.

Contacted everyone I was given have recieved no messages back from anyone. What is the next step I should take.

Did you try phone numbers?

I would send a last warning before you fill the mail fraud and contact his local police station

I sent out messages to everyone and the phone number sent me to a voice mail.