BTR: Metalmilk aka Mike Johnson
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:05 am
After consulting with Ironhide before moving this to the BTR forum. I was going to let it go with nothing more than a positive feedback.
But after the behavior of Metalmilk aka Mike Johnson , False statements and False accusations against my character, I'm putting boot to @**.
I am also leaving Negative feedback for him.
Since I want to play within the rules , and have been threatened with harassment if I contact him farther. Could an admin direct him to this thread.
I will be leaving the posts address in my negative feedback and nothing more.
Here is the copy of all of our combined PM's. (including Ironhide's)
Need advice - before Deadbeat post
Sent: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:07 am
by witchcoven
Ironhide,
I am sending this to you seeking advise. I have currently completed a trade with another site user. both parties have recieved each others trade. But i feel that the other person hasn't followed threw with everything. he keeps pulling crap out his *** , saying he said, this and that.
I have kept track of all our combined Pm's and would like to warn others about him/his behavior. I personaly think the guy is a deadbeat.
I recived a meassage from him stating that if i PM him again, he will contact an admin for harrasiment..
So i am seeking your advice before I post a formal Deadbeat notice on the forums.
I will be more than happy to copy/past all pms in a private message to you before going puplic.
Thx,
Witchcoven
Re: Need advice - before Deadbeat post
Sent: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:34 am
by Ironhide
Send me a copy of the messages concerning the trade and I'll review them for you. If he did not follow through with everything agreed upon (i.e. you didn't receive everything), then you should have a case for a BTR instead of a deadbeat report.
Re: Need advice - before Deadbeat post
Sent: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:12 pm
by Ironhide
You can hit him with a Deadbeat or a Bad trader Report. See: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=45472
He did not send the package within the time frame you both agreed upon (simul-ship), you received broken models, and he looks like he was being deceptive. He was also rude, but that's not part of the criteria. You can also hit him with a negative reference, or you can hit him with just the negative reference.
I think he deceived you by offering to pay extra so you would ship first, and I think that is the only reason he did that. I put your address in Google maps and it put me right on your trailer.
Also, in the future, it is probably cheaper (and faster) to send packages via USPS; rather than UPS.
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Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:39 pm
by metalmilk
Hey you need to stop harassing me. I am putting a block on you. I will take this as far as it has to go. You need to stop pming me.
Thanks
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:30 pm
by witchcoven
Were do you keep pulling this crap from?
My package to you was sent Wed Feb 24th and arrived Tuesday Mar 2nd. It took less than 6 days too arrive to you.
Not 2 weeks, sorry buddy your F.O.S. , maybe you should learn to keep your deals strait and not try to BS when you clearly haven't said what your claiming.
Do you not understand that all our communication is tracked and you've made no such references. You keep saying you've said this and that, but our combined PM's show otherwise. (it's that big , long , scrollable list under this one)
Dear Customer,
This notice serves as proof of delivery for the shipment listed below.
Tracking Number: 1Z3F84X90311122900 Service:GROUNDDelivered On: 03/02/2010 2:48 P.M. Delivered To: DELAWARE, OH, US Location:MET CUST WOM
Thank you for giving us this opportunity to serve you.
Sincerely,
UPS
Tracking results provided by UPS: 03/11/2010 8:17 P.M. ET
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:25 am
by metalmilk
sorry they were broken in the shipping process. I told you before I didnt put anything extra in there because you send it ground instead of priority. It took your book almost two weeks to arrive. But no worries. Im not really surprised after dealing with you lol. Best of luck. Hope you win games with them.
Re: retribution
Sent: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:30 pm
by witchcoven
Your package was delivered today. upon opening the box i have 2 bone jacks with broken legs(no worries, I'm skilled enough to repair them) , no extra money as you stated (Quote-- "Can you send it fast shipping and I will throw in some cash to cover the shipping cost"). So i wouldn't be hanging around your mailbox looking for a refund on your shipping (Dam , karma's a bitch huh!).
I will leave a positive reference if you do--Beyond that , best of luck on bartertown!
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:59 pm
by witchcoven
Don't get snippy with me.. I have a family Myself, work full time and still managed to proptly get your item to you.
As for your PM's last one you sent was Tues :
I dont know why it came back just says insufficient address.
What is the #212? should it say apt 212? or box 212? maybe.
Maybe you forgot to hit send (feel free to scroll down on you list of our combined PM's).
As far as your double shipping the item, thats clearly not my problem..
It it your problem. seeing as you didn't purchase a tracking number I have no proof you sent it the 1st time.
upon it's arrival we'll see if you put $6 in to cover the extra fast shipping you requested.
my shipping costs to you were 13.40 after tax , so if you want to complain about costs we can.
chuck
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:49 pm
by metalmilk
Actually Jackass I had to get off work early to hit the bank so I could reship your package. I did get your confirmation number and was just getting on my comp to send it to you today. Dont lose your patience next time and wait an extra 2 hours for me to ship it.
As I already replied to your last message and I told you I would be sending it out today. Its 5:50pm here I shipped it when I got out of work.
Unlike some people I have a family to take care of and work that comes before REshipping your package again.
AND I had to pay for the shipping twice. You can send the six dollars to my address.
Your shipping number is 03092880000124259810 with the U.S. postal service.
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:24 pm
by witchcoven
mike,
I have sent you Pm's asking for tracking info on my 1/2 of the trade. I have given you the correct mailing address 3 times.
My 1/2 of the trade has arrived to you , and can safely assume your reading threw my retribution book.
At this point im starting to get annoyed. your checking you messages (nifty little feature they build in-- shows that you have).
If i do not recieve tracking info/package shortly I will be left with no chioce but to start a backout and involve admins.
I will carry it as far as filing internet and mail fraud charges against you.
Please take the time to go to the post office, purchase tracking/delivery confirmation and pm me with the info to avoid any of this.
my address is as follows:
robert jackson
8601 N 103rd Ave Lot 212
Peoria,az 85345
Chuck Jones
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:53 pm
by witchcoven
mike,
It has been over 24 hours since my package has arrived to you. have you reshipped my 1/2 of the trade? Do you have a tracking number for me?
Again my info is:
Robert Jackson
8601 N. 103rd Ave Lot 212
Peoria,AZ 85345
Thx,
Chuck Jones
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:35 pm
by witchcoven
mike,
I see my package to you has been delivered. please write my address as follows:
Robert Jackson
8601 N. 103rd Ave Lot 212
Peoria,AZ 85345
If not sure why the package would have been returned. but please change the name. I am currently living in my father-inlaws old home- we took over his mortgage. If you write the address/name as above there should be no issue that i could think of.
thx,
Chuck jones
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:06 am
by metalmilk
I dont know why it came back just says insufficient address.
What is the #212? should it say apt 212? or box 212? maybe.
Re: retribution
Sent: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:49 pm
by witchcoven
Info is the same as previous pm's, but here it is again.
My info is:
Chuck Jones (add care of Robert Jackson)***
8601 N 103rd ave #212
Peoria,AZ 85345
Re: retribution
Sent: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:37 pm
by metalmilk
Your package was returned today saying your address was incorrect. Can you send me an address for you to be reached at and I will send it out again and get you a tracking number. Thanks
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:39 pm
by metalmilk
Yeah I really should do that next time. Thanks
Let me know when they arrive.
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:46 pm
by witchcoven
Im sure they will arrive with no problems.. I would suggest that you include purchase of tracking numbers with trades.. It not only protects you, but shows that your 1/2 of the trade arrived.
chuck
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:28 pm
by metalmilk
No I didnt pay for the tracking number. : ( sorry
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:37 pm
by witchcoven
do you have a tracking number for them?
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:37 am
by metalmilk
Yeah I shipped them out. I sent them priority mail should be there in 2-3 days.
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:56 pm
by witchcoven
havent heard from you, have you shipped the items?
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:30 am
by witchcoven
ok your book is under way.. I shipped it just short of next day air via ups--IT SHIPPED GROUND RESIDENTIAL. They wanted $30 for next day air which is almost as much as the book full retail. you can track the package on www.theupsstorelocal.com/4580/ & your tracking number is 1Z3F84X90311122900
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:19 am
by witchcoven
Ya ill get in the mail today.. I will have them ship it like 2-3 day priorty mail. thx
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:09 am
by metalmilk
that would be no problem. Can you send it fast shipping and I will throw in some cash to cover the shipping cost.
I will send your models out today.
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:11 am
by witchcoven
ok we have a deal.. since were both new traders would you agree us both shipping at the same time?
I can have everything in the mail tommarow.
My info is:
Chuck Jones
8601 N 103rd ave #212
Peoria,AZ 85345
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:02 am
by metalmilk
Sure I could send those out np. Sounds like a deal.
Shoot me an address.
Mine is:
Mike Johnson
211 Thornapple Trail
Delaware Ohio, 43015
Thanks
I will send around 6 bucks in there also if you would be willing to send that fast shipping. I would really love to get it before Saturday.
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:05 pm
by witchcoven
I have no use for the pistol wraith.. i would let the book go for:
"I have the Defiler and deathripper and also the Necrosurgeon and stitch thralls (NIB)"
Let me know.
Chuck
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:32 pm
by metalmilk
Would you take the Pistol wraith and bonejacks for it?
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:50 am
by witchcoven
im currently working on a deal for all of the retribution models I listed.. the book is however fair game atm.. make me an offer!
retribution
Sent: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:37 am
by metalmilk
I would like to get your book and the Arcanist off of you.
I have Cryx models to trade.
I have the Defiler and deathripper and also the Necrosurgeon and stitch thralls (NIB)
I also have a Pistol Wraith (the variant)
But after the behavior of Metalmilk aka Mike Johnson , False statements and False accusations against my character, I'm putting boot to @**.
I am also leaving Negative feedback for him.
Since I want to play within the rules , and have been threatened with harassment if I contact him farther. Could an admin direct him to this thread.
I will be leaving the posts address in my negative feedback and nothing more.
Here is the copy of all of our combined PM's. (including Ironhide's)
Need advice - before Deadbeat post
Sent: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:07 am
by witchcoven
Ironhide,
I am sending this to you seeking advise. I have currently completed a trade with another site user. both parties have recieved each others trade. But i feel that the other person hasn't followed threw with everything. he keeps pulling crap out his *** , saying he said, this and that.
I have kept track of all our combined Pm's and would like to warn others about him/his behavior. I personaly think the guy is a deadbeat.
I recived a meassage from him stating that if i PM him again, he will contact an admin for harrasiment..
So i am seeking your advice before I post a formal Deadbeat notice on the forums.
I will be more than happy to copy/past all pms in a private message to you before going puplic.
Thx,
Witchcoven
Re: Need advice - before Deadbeat post
Sent: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:34 am
by Ironhide
Send me a copy of the messages concerning the trade and I'll review them for you. If he did not follow through with everything agreed upon (i.e. you didn't receive everything), then you should have a case for a BTR instead of a deadbeat report.
Re: Need advice - before Deadbeat post
Sent: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:12 pm
by Ironhide
You can hit him with a Deadbeat or a Bad trader Report. See: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=45472
He did not send the package within the time frame you both agreed upon (simul-ship), you received broken models, and he looks like he was being deceptive. He was also rude, but that's not part of the criteria. You can also hit him with a negative reference, or you can hit him with just the negative reference.
I think he deceived you by offering to pay extra so you would ship first, and I think that is the only reason he did that. I put your address in Google maps and it put me right on your trailer.
Also, in the future, it is probably cheaper (and faster) to send packages via USPS; rather than UPS.
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Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:39 pm
by metalmilk
Hey you need to stop harassing me. I am putting a block on you. I will take this as far as it has to go. You need to stop pming me.
Thanks
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:30 pm
by witchcoven
Were do you keep pulling this crap from?
My package to you was sent Wed Feb 24th and arrived Tuesday Mar 2nd. It took less than 6 days too arrive to you.
Not 2 weeks, sorry buddy your F.O.S. , maybe you should learn to keep your deals strait and not try to BS when you clearly haven't said what your claiming.
Do you not understand that all our communication is tracked and you've made no such references. You keep saying you've said this and that, but our combined PM's show otherwise. (it's that big , long , scrollable list under this one)
Dear Customer,
This notice serves as proof of delivery for the shipment listed below.
Tracking Number: 1Z3F84X90311122900 Service:GROUNDDelivered On: 03/02/2010 2:48 P.M. Delivered To: DELAWARE, OH, US Location:MET CUST WOM
Thank you for giving us this opportunity to serve you.
Sincerely,
UPS
Tracking results provided by UPS: 03/11/2010 8:17 P.M. ET
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:25 am
by metalmilk
sorry they were broken in the shipping process. I told you before I didnt put anything extra in there because you send it ground instead of priority. It took your book almost two weeks to arrive. But no worries. Im not really surprised after dealing with you lol. Best of luck. Hope you win games with them.
Re: retribution
Sent: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:30 pm
by witchcoven
Your package was delivered today. upon opening the box i have 2 bone jacks with broken legs(no worries, I'm skilled enough to repair them) , no extra money as you stated (Quote-- "Can you send it fast shipping and I will throw in some cash to cover the shipping cost"). So i wouldn't be hanging around your mailbox looking for a refund on your shipping (Dam , karma's a bitch huh!).
I will leave a positive reference if you do--Beyond that , best of luck on bartertown!
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:59 pm
by witchcoven
Don't get snippy with me.. I have a family Myself, work full time and still managed to proptly get your item to you.
As for your PM's last one you sent was Tues :
I dont know why it came back just says insufficient address.
What is the #212? should it say apt 212? or box 212? maybe.
Maybe you forgot to hit send (feel free to scroll down on you list of our combined PM's).
As far as your double shipping the item, thats clearly not my problem..
It it your problem. seeing as you didn't purchase a tracking number I have no proof you sent it the 1st time.
upon it's arrival we'll see if you put $6 in to cover the extra fast shipping you requested.
my shipping costs to you were 13.40 after tax , so if you want to complain about costs we can.
chuck
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:49 pm
by metalmilk
Actually Jackass I had to get off work early to hit the bank so I could reship your package. I did get your confirmation number and was just getting on my comp to send it to you today. Dont lose your patience next time and wait an extra 2 hours for me to ship it.
As I already replied to your last message and I told you I would be sending it out today. Its 5:50pm here I shipped it when I got out of work.
Unlike some people I have a family to take care of and work that comes before REshipping your package again.
AND I had to pay for the shipping twice. You can send the six dollars to my address.
Your shipping number is 03092880000124259810 with the U.S. postal service.
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:24 pm
by witchcoven
mike,
I have sent you Pm's asking for tracking info on my 1/2 of the trade. I have given you the correct mailing address 3 times.
My 1/2 of the trade has arrived to you , and can safely assume your reading threw my retribution book.
At this point im starting to get annoyed. your checking you messages (nifty little feature they build in-- shows that you have).
If i do not recieve tracking info/package shortly I will be left with no chioce but to start a backout and involve admins.
I will carry it as far as filing internet and mail fraud charges against you.
Please take the time to go to the post office, purchase tracking/delivery confirmation and pm me with the info to avoid any of this.
my address is as follows:
robert jackson
8601 N 103rd Ave Lot 212
Peoria,az 85345
Chuck Jones
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:53 pm
by witchcoven
mike,
It has been over 24 hours since my package has arrived to you. have you reshipped my 1/2 of the trade? Do you have a tracking number for me?
Again my info is:
Robert Jackson
8601 N. 103rd Ave Lot 212
Peoria,AZ 85345
Thx,
Chuck Jones
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:35 pm
by witchcoven
mike,
I see my package to you has been delivered. please write my address as follows:
Robert Jackson
8601 N. 103rd Ave Lot 212
Peoria,AZ 85345
If not sure why the package would have been returned. but please change the name. I am currently living in my father-inlaws old home- we took over his mortgage. If you write the address/name as above there should be no issue that i could think of.
thx,
Chuck jones
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:06 am
by metalmilk
I dont know why it came back just says insufficient address.
What is the #212? should it say apt 212? or box 212? maybe.
Re: retribution
Sent: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:49 pm
by witchcoven
Info is the same as previous pm's, but here it is again.
My info is:
Chuck Jones (add care of Robert Jackson)***
8601 N 103rd ave #212
Peoria,AZ 85345
Re: retribution
Sent: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:37 pm
by metalmilk
Your package was returned today saying your address was incorrect. Can you send me an address for you to be reached at and I will send it out again and get you a tracking number. Thanks
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:39 pm
by metalmilk
Yeah I really should do that next time. Thanks
Let me know when they arrive.
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:46 pm
by witchcoven
Im sure they will arrive with no problems.. I would suggest that you include purchase of tracking numbers with trades.. It not only protects you, but shows that your 1/2 of the trade arrived.
chuck
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:28 pm
by metalmilk
No I didnt pay for the tracking number. : ( sorry
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:37 pm
by witchcoven
do you have a tracking number for them?
Re: retribution
Sent: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:37 am
by metalmilk
Yeah I shipped them out. I sent them priority mail should be there in 2-3 days.
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:56 pm
by witchcoven
havent heard from you, have you shipped the items?
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:30 am
by witchcoven
ok your book is under way.. I shipped it just short of next day air via ups--IT SHIPPED GROUND RESIDENTIAL. They wanted $30 for next day air which is almost as much as the book full retail. you can track the package on www.theupsstorelocal.com/4580/ & your tracking number is 1Z3F84X90311122900
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:19 am
by witchcoven
Ya ill get in the mail today.. I will have them ship it like 2-3 day priorty mail. thx
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:09 am
by metalmilk
that would be no problem. Can you send it fast shipping and I will throw in some cash to cover the shipping cost.
I will send your models out today.
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:11 am
by witchcoven
ok we have a deal.. since were both new traders would you agree us both shipping at the same time?
I can have everything in the mail tommarow.
My info is:
Chuck Jones
8601 N 103rd ave #212
Peoria,AZ 85345
Re: retribution
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:02 am
by metalmilk
Sure I could send those out np. Sounds like a deal.
Shoot me an address.
Mine is:
Mike Johnson
211 Thornapple Trail
Delaware Ohio, 43015
Thanks
I will send around 6 bucks in there also if you would be willing to send that fast shipping. I would really love to get it before Saturday.
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:05 pm
by witchcoven
I have no use for the pistol wraith.. i would let the book go for:
"I have the Defiler and deathripper and also the Necrosurgeon and stitch thralls (NIB)"
Let me know.
Chuck
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:32 pm
by metalmilk
Would you take the Pistol wraith and bonejacks for it?
Re: retribution
Sent: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:50 am
by witchcoven
im currently working on a deal for all of the retribution models I listed.. the book is however fair game atm.. make me an offer!
retribution
Sent: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:37 am
by metalmilk
I would like to get your book and the Arcanist off of you.
I have Cryx models to trade.
I have the Defiler and deathripper and also the Necrosurgeon and stitch thralls (NIB)
I also have a Pistol Wraith (the variant)