MagickalMemories wrote:BCI wrote:
jadefalcon wrote:
This will suffice. I already submitted a Paypal Claim and got the consolatory message (Sorry, we cannot help you) back from them.
Just add my amount to the total this PoS stole. The higher the value the more justice we can exact on this PoS.
Good Luck
J
There're these things called "rules of evidence" which you have to abide by, "adding" some value onto a total without the evidence that qualified it is called "fraud."
Depending on the type of action taken as a result of the report, could become a "perjurous act."
And for those of you who understand "perjury", should it reach a court of law, you face 5 or more years and up to $25,000.
*golfclap*
Dude!
WTF is your malfunction? Seriously. What is your problem?
This is the second post I've read by you today, and you've acted like an absolute A-hole in both.
He's saying to add his amount in, as if to say to add him in, too... because it's TRUE. The larger the amount, the more trouble headed someone's way.
a)
We can do without the "quotes" in every one of your posts.
b)
Condescension is neither an admirable nor attractive trait.
c)
We don't need you to educate us.
d)
*golfclap*
Oh, yeah... that's frigging mature.
Just back off the attitude.
Eric
I took the libery to reintroduce the contents you had cut from my previous text, because it's necessary to so do.
A: If all of my recent posts don't have quotes, then it's not every posting.
B: I'm not being condescending. I'm being honest and pointing out something that could be overlooked and cause problems for the people who have been wronged.
C: Had I done so, you would not have erred as you have just now.
D: No less mature than your posting was. In fact, the sarcasm in my post can be qualified, the hostility in yours is not.
Please, by all means, allow us to work in harmony here so we can both work towards a safe environment. But do not attack me when I am pointing out the truth.
If something horrible has happened to you in the last two years that would have caused you to become, abrasive due to a sensitivity about bad trader topics, I could sympathize. I am however very keen on the proper implementation of matters related to law when it comes to situations such as those that one may find in this forum. Call it a part of my job description.
It's good to see you're still a member here, and I hope you've been well in trade. If we happen to find an opportunity to exchange goods, excellent, if not, well, it's just in the cards.
Regardless, the rules of evidence would require a standard of proof along the lines of clear and convincing evidence, which do not include claims that are unasservated.
That being said, emails, receipts, paypal, etc, would all be required so that it would not risk being construed as fraudulent itself.
When I say something about the rules of evidence, it's because it apparently hasn't been said. And it's relevant to supporting the people trying to defend themselves and make things right within the law.
Do you want to see someone from Bartertown taken to court by a person who committs mail fraud here?
I don't.
It may seem outlandish, but it is possible for even a guilty party to file suit in cases where they find a chink in the armor. All it takes is something minor, something overlooked, just one fact that wasn't supported by anything but an offhanded comment on a forum could be enough to cause someone misery. Even if it was all done as a defense against a crime that was committed.
It's almost amazing that some of the things said here haven't already resulted in civil cases being filed. Some of the threats made prior to my hiatus didn't leave much to the imagination as to whether or not physical harm was intended. And those were being made by people who weren't even involved in the trades that had proven to be sour.
And from what information I have and things I've been witness too, it really doesn't take much for a person to end up in court.
Innocent, or Guilty. And judges only care about the evidence.
