Bad Experience redstarone

[Stanislav]

So its gone from a bad trader to now personal insults Stanislav? Seriously? I wouldn't expect this behaviour from a vertern like yourself, but then again, you never know.

You have voiced your opinion that you don't think RSO is at fault, that's great. Now since you don't have anything else to add, please move along...back to Rogue Market where he put you up to this.

[saifb123]

So its gone from a bad trader to now personal insults Stanislav? Seriously? I wouldn't expect this behaviour from a vertern like yourself, but then again, you never know.

You have voiced your opinion that you don't think RSO is at fault, that's great. Now since you don't have anything else to add, please move along...back to Rogue Market where he put you up to this.

Now, that is going to far. I have no connections with Redstaronline and neither do I have any connections with you or this transactions. Hell, I don't even know what Rogue Market is.

I just voiced my opinion as a member of BTown.

And it does seem like your getting annoyed at nothing? What did you lose? You have your models, you have your money, you KNEW he was slow, so what exactly are you missing here? If you were in such a rush, why didn't you do it yourself?

[Stanislav]

Saif123,

If you truly have no interest in this, then like I said, you have made your point. Other than that, you really don't have anything to ad to this thread.

Sorry, but I have dealt with this individual for over 6 months and I know how he likes to operate. Getting one of his cronies from RM would be one.

When I recommended a converter to an individual in the For Hire Section, he was all hurt, so he sent one of his buddies from RM to recommend him.

If you aren't, I do apologize, but like I said, you have nothing else to add. Your first post is there for posterity.

[redstarone]

Sorry, but I have dealt with this individual for over 6 months and I know how he likes to operate. Getting one of his cronies from RM would be one.

When I recommended a converter to an individual in the For Hire Section, he was all hurt, so he sent one of his buddies from RM to recommend him.

If you aren't, I do apologize, but like I said, you have nothing else to add. Your first post is there for posterity.

6 months and you know me that well? Cronies? WTF. Dude look at what your saying. You say I need meds? You paranoid.

As for the person in the for hire section, you didnt just recommend someone else, which I DIDNT CARE ABOUT AND TOLD YOU I UNDERSTOOD as I was slow. But you also PMed that said person and warned them of my services.

Shorts only posted because he likes my past work, not because I made him post anything.

If anything you do owe an apology to Saif123.

[Stanislav]

I did apologize to Saifb123, however because you made that point so clear, I got to looking.

Saif Beg is kind of an uncommon name don't you think? Kind of stands out in a list so to say.

Well, when you live in a glass house you don't throw stones Saif. Having 2 usernames is a violation of Bartertown rules.

For all of you people out there watching, hit the check references tab and type in for the "real name" Saif .

It should pop up as saifb123 and Katchem_ash.

Kind of puts a damper on you speaking up in RSO's defense. Especially since your "hidden" negative speaks of constant reminders and 6+ weeks to ship. Don't hate Saif, Don't hate.

Don't derail this thread again there Saif.

[NuWishA]

Fun Fact: The BTR forum is not for the two of you to flame each other. It is also not for every other random person to start throwing in their own opinions.

Stanslav, Redstar please keep it civil, or keep it out of this thread. I understand both sides feel slighted, but this is out of hand.

Everyone else who is piping in, please keep it either out of the thread or to a bare minimum.

Thank you,

~Deputy Pant~

[redstarone]

The series of contracts started and was maintained through Bartertown the entire time. If you had dealt with him, then you would see that this is just another excuse. It is a deal gone bad. Blacklisting? What else is a BTR? No one has to buy into it, but it should give people pause in dealing with him. I even said "Trader Beware" in my first post.

No you did NOT sir. You put bad trader. Not Trader Beware. there is a huge difference.

As for having a life, understandable. As a business that advertises on this site, life needs to planned into your dealings. I would think advertisers should be held to a higher standard than most others here. Look at the "Dropzone".

How DARE you accuse me of anything like that sorry person. You got your models, you paid NOTHING. Do NOT compare or even use his name and mine in the same post.

Fanatical? Ehhhh, maybe a little. I have been here for a long time, and I don't like seeing the new guys get screwed over. So if that means I am fanatical, then I guess more than a little.

Ha Ha Ha

[saifb123]

I did apologize to Saifb123, however because you made that point so clear, I got to looking.

Saif Beg is kind of an uncommon name don't you think? Kind of stands out in a list so to say.

Well, when you live in a glass house you don't throw stones Saif. Having 2 usernames is a violation of Bartertown rules.

For all of you people out there watching, hit the check references tab and type in for the "real name" Saif .

It should pop up as saifb123 and Katchem_ash.

Kind of puts a damper on you speaking up in RSO's defense. Especially since your "hidden" negative speaks of constant reminders and 6+ weeks to ship. Don't hate Saif, Don't hate.

Don't derail this thread again there Saif.

Threats don't work against me, sorry to say. It was obvious who I was from the start because, well I have my name in my username. Golly gosh, partner, I don't know what you were thinking. I've clear it also up with the Mods, or so I think, since my password for my email was stolen and my account hacked and that I requested a change in name. Opps, guess you should have checked with the people first before you opened you huge gob.

[Stanislav]

No Matt, you know as well as I, that I did pay you. For the Legion assembly? No. I don't even think you were brazen enough to want money after that shoddy job. For others, yes I did. So much that I had to contract someone else to re-do the job. In fact, you offered a refund, which means, at least in my misguided way of thinking, that I had to pay you something for you to refund anything back to me.

See how that works? There can be no refund without payment. Anyway, neither here nor there. Totally off subject.

I have posted my thoughts in a BTR, and you have provided a rebuttal. There isn't anything left to say. So, as far as I am concerned, this thread can be locked. I only wanted people to see it, they can make up there own minds on how to proceed.
The more you reply Red, the higher the "views" count goes, and of course I know you will want to have the last word, but you'll bring up some contrivance of how wrong I am to put you under public scrutiny, and...I'll have to reply. So, like I said Red, you have had your chances for answering, from now on, let it ride.

Note: Absolutely nothing flaming in this post at all. Like I said, it can be locked where no one can reply if the mods see fit. As it stands right now, I don't have anything to add unless another one pops out of left field.

[redstarone]

No Matt, you know as well as I, that I did pay you. For the Legion assembly? No. I don't even think you were brazen enough to want money after that shoddy job. For others, yes I did. So much that I had to contract someone else to re-do the job. In fact, you offered a refund, which means, at least in my misguided way of thinking, that I had to pay you something for you to refund anything back to me.

I offered that refund because you didnt even tell me you werent happy with the model. You started having an attitude with me via email and MSN so i asked why. After many times asking you told me you werent happy about krusty, so I said id refund that.

As for not charging for the legion assembly...yea it would have gone over 10 hours for the reposes you wanted. So I DIDNT CHARGE. The refund was for krusty and like I siad, you havent even given me a chance to get the money rto repay you. Remember our whole talk about how my family is low on funds?

See how that works? There can be no refund without payment. Anyway, neither here nor there. Totally off subject.

Yea I see how it works perfectly. I offered a refund on krusty even after you DIDNT tell me you werent happy. I had to find out on my own after asking many times whats with the attitude.

As for the legion, you paid NOTHING. So yea, it wasnt a refund, it was a free job.

Note: Absolutely nothing flaming in this post at all. Like I said, it can be locked where no one can reply if the mods see fit. As it stands right now, I don't have anything to add unless another one pops out of left field.

I dont see it as flame war either. I see it as you make claims against me and I have the RIGHT to defend myself.

As for people popping in, im not in control of what others do.

Thats it, my last word. Reply if you want, I dont care.

[NuWishA]

This thread is now locked. The mod and admin staff are going to be reviewing this.

If either Stan or Redstar have anything to add, please PM the staff.

[MagickalMemories]

Sorry, wrong thread.