Another Possible Bad Trade from the_trader

[Valhallansurfer]

I was really sick to read the other bad trader reports about the_trader. I posted him $80 for a large amount of IG infantry-70 Steel Legion troops and 30 stormtroopers. I realize those numbers are a little too neat, and I should have known that it was just a bit too good of a deal. Still, I have found people selling collections for pennies before, when they just wanted to clear stuff out, but I guess I should have been more wary. I am in the US, so could anyone else with cross-Altantic buying experience please tell me how long I should wait before I get suspicious?

He did have one postive trade under his belt when I traded with him. Has anyone gotten their stuff?

Thanks,

Jason

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Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:21:10 -0800
From: cheshirekat72@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Regarding Bartertown Trade
To: joe_n_lisa_bartle@hotmail.co.uk


Many thanks! Will keep an eye out for it.

Jason




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From: joseph bartle <joe_n_lisa_bartle@hotmail.co.uk>
To: cheshirekat72@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:12:14 AM
Subject: RE: Regarding Bartertown Trade

hi was posted friday should be there mon or tue


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Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:01:59 -0800
From: cheshirekat72@yahoo.com
Subject: Regarding Bartertown Trade
To: joe_n_lisa_bartle@hotmail.co.uk


Joseph,
I hope all is well with you. I am a little concerned that since I made my final payment to you for your IG infantry on Thursday, I have not heard from you. Since this is a lot of money for me, I would really appreciate your acknowledgement of receipt of the money and an estimate of when you will send the figures. A response from you will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jason


Re: IG
Sent at: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:40 pm
by Valhallansurfer
Joseph,
Hi, I hope your weekend is off to a good start. I was just curious if you received my second payment without any problems. Please let me know when you can.
Take care,
Jason
Re: IG
Sent at: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:00 pm
by Valhallansurfer
Joseph,
I just sent you the final payment for what I owe you-$66. With the $14 I sent you already, that is your $80.
Please send the 70 Steel Legion troops and 30 Stormtroopers to:
Jason [edited]
[edited]
Fort Pierce, FL 34947
USA
As I mentioned before, please make sure the box is well sealed, and at your convenience, please drop me another PM when you send, so I know to keep an eye out for the package.
Thanks!
Jason
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:39 am
by the_trader
right thanks for that info
i will spuer glue the flaps down and sell it with posrage tape
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:36 am
by Valhallansurfer
Excellent! Let me ask a favor-please make sure there is plenty of tape on all seams of the box, as my local post office has a problem. Sometimes boxes that are not really well-sealed get rifled through.
Thanks, and I will keep you posted on the rest of the money.
Take care,
Jason
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:31 am
by the_trader
just got them redy to send when all payed up
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:17 am
by Valhallansurfer
Joseph,
I just sent you a downpayment of $14 USD toward your 70 steel legion and 30 stormtrooper 28mm metal figures.
I still owe you $66 USD for a total $80. Will send remainder ASAP.
Thanks!
Jason
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:06 am
by the_trader
yer send it in pounds and make it easyer
yer i can wait for the rest
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:47 am
by Valhallansurfer
Okay, I will send the $14 now and the rest ASAP-are you in the U.K.? I am in the US. Do you want me to send in pounds?
Cheers,
Jason
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:41 am
by the_trader
yer thats good with me

my paypal is
joe_n_lisa_bartle@hotmail.co.uk
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:19 am
by Valhallansurfer
Awesome! I will need a little time to move my funds around into Paypal. Would you like a downpayment? I can send you $14 now and the rest in a few days. Maybe less. Hope that is okay.
Cheers,
Jason
Re: IG
Sent at: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:13 am
by the_trader
i do have paypal
i do have 1 feedback
i do have anouther site that has me ith good feeed back
Re: IG
Sent at: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:32 pm
by Valhallansurfer
Many thanks for responding!
I am definitely interested. 1) do you take Paypal? 2) do you have any trading refs? If not, that is cool, but I would then like to exchange personoal contact info before sending funds.
Thanks again,
Jason
IG
Sent at: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:38 am
by the_trader
i have 70 steel legion troops and 30 storm troopers
$80 good for you and i'll pay postage

[MagickalMemories]

God, this is just getting ugly.

[BrooklynMike]

Nothing for me yet. As I said previously, I was going to wait for tomorrow PM post but given the amount of traffic here on the_trader I decided to open the paypal dispute and post the BTR right away. If, by some chance, he comes through I'll make sure to post. Who knows, the guy may be called away on urgent family business or something and can't get to his computer ("What a day for a daydream!")

[JohnHwangBT]

@Erik:
Can you edit my original post in THOS to include this thread as well?
Thanks.

[JohnHwangBT]

Hello all:

Due to the sheer number of BTR and Deadbeat / Backout threads (now 9), I have compiled an index in the Hall of Shame:

the_trader in The Hall of Shame

/John

[arundel]

Yup, be worried, we were all duped..... At least your in good company...

[Valhallansurfer]

I have now filed a dispute with Paypal. For whatever that is worth.

Is there any kind of joint action we can take? Has anyone been successful in getting personal contact information for this guy?

[Norseman]

Add me to the list i just Paypaled him $70 for 4 Chimeras. Hasnt been enough time yet to BTR though.

[Valhallansurfer]

And then there were six.....

[MagickalMemories]

Add me to the list i just Paypaled him $70 for 4 Chimeras. Hasnt been enough time yet to BTR though.

Norseman, considering the circumstances... feel free to drop a BTR on him immediately.

Eric

[starslayer]

Add me to the list i just Paypaled him $70 for 4 Chimeras. Hasnt been enough time yet to BTR though.

Norseman, considering the circumstances... feel free to drop a BTR on him immediately.

Eric

No offense, that wont accomplish much,if naything. he made his money & now he'll dissappear. His victims need to push this as far as it can go.

[MagickalMemories]

Add me to the list i just Paypaled him $70 for 4 Chimeras. Hasnt been enough time yet to BTR though.

Norseman, considering the circumstances... feel free to drop a BTR on him immediately.

Eric

No offense, that wont accomplish much,if naything. he made his money & now he'll dissappear. His victims need to push this as far as it can go.

You're right, in that it won't accomplish anything in regards to getting back his stuff... but he still should post his complaint so that (a) the immensity of the_trader's scamming in accurately represented and (b) he said he wanted to (eventually) do it. I was just telling him that he could do it immediately.

Now, if one person was to step up and be the tip of the spearhead attack to get people's money back, Norseman will have made it known that he's one of the affected, too.


Eric

[Valhallansurfer]

As soon as I leave my office for the weekend, I am going to have very limited Internet access. I would be willing to initiate a contact on Monday, but I can't do much before then. Will try to check in as I can.