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Alright, Here is my BTR. This started just shy of a year ago.

Caution VERY long post I deleted much of the "double" information that happens sometimes from replying
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Sent: Sun 9/09/07 8:38 PM
To: prosimian7@hotmail.com

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I was wondering what your time frame were, and if you had any opening.

Due to time constraints I'm looking to finish a few units so i can play this darned army before 2009 (at my painting rate atm)

The unit(s) are:
Eldar Autarch (home conversion + one more conversion detail added by you)
Farseer (x2)
Seer council (x8)
Wraithlord done up in a Warlock fashion (this is a conversion I'd have you do as I do not trust my own convesion skills for something i want to look fairly cool.)

i already have a paint scheme in mind I'm more giving models for the yes/no on time frame.

thanks in advance


From: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)
Sent: Mon 9/10/07 3:51 AM
To: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)

On 9/9/07, Jon Kopecky <prosimian7@hotmail.com> wrote:
This is an enquiry e-mail via http://painter6479.com from:
Jon Kopecky <prosimian7@hotmail.com>

I was wondering what your time frame were, and if you had any opening.

Due to time constraints I'm looking to finish a few units so i can play this darned army before 2009 (at my painting rate atm)

>Sure, I'll see what I can do to help.

The unit(s) are:
Eldar Autarch (home conversion + one more conversion detail added by you)
Farseer (x2)
Seer council (x8)
Wraithlord done up in a Warlock fashion (this is a conversion I'd have you do as I do not trust my own convesion skills for something i want to look fairly cool.)

>Sounds interesting, are you thinking of something with robes and a witchblade, and maybe a head converted to look like a jeweled ghosthelm kind of thing?

i already have a paint scheme in mind I'm more giving models for the yes/no on time frame.

>What level of painting work are you looking for on these? That will affect how soon it could be scheduled and how long the project would take. Still, for a smaller project like this, we can usually fit in into our schedule without too much of a delay, we could probably be ready to start on your project within one to two weeks. As for completion time, that also would vary, but depending on the work you wish to have done, I'd say anywhere from two weeks to six weeks.

If you have any other questions, or would like to get a full quote, just give me some more detail on what you are looking for and the scheme you have in mind.

Thanks,
Painter6479 Studios


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Mon 9/10/07 8:58 AM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

ok here is the full details of what i need done then. My current painting skills range is roughly your standard range with every now and then something more in the line with a step between standard and plus.
I was going to go with a plus paint job mainly due to the amount of detail on warlocks and such.

Basic color scheme is black for the robes (Ulthwe craftworld colors). With the Armor being various mixes of Golds, and Silvers (junior warlocks silver, senior warlocks being Gold) Robe trims for all the warlocks was to be bone/white as well, someting simple as a trim around a hem or arm, to a simple rune (in a convienient to paint spot, I'm not big on tryin to paint things in hard to get to spots myself) Witchblades and singing spears I have done similar to the most recent codex, Bone with one exception. Gems on my weapons are blue, Gems against Black are Red, and Lastly any gems that are against a red background are Green. (For the gems I have already done i was using the Layered style; dark, slightly lighter, lighter, and white dot)

The Farseer's are only slightly different Robes are still black With yellow/gold trim (yellow with gold traces if that makes sense, basically so it looks gold but different than that of the armor trim). I wish a deep red/purple for Armor. Gold armor trim as the senior warlocks.

The Autarch is a conversion I based on an old PSone game "Legend of the Dragoon" off of the character by the name of Rose. As best able to I want the Autarch to look like rose did in the Dragoon form. Here is one conversion i needed done. I wish to have some sort of flame/aura effect around the sword itself (this sword doesn't have to be in the same bone style of the Warlocks/Farseer) In the end effect I want he to look like the "Dark Angel" kind of model.
this model is already converted except for the sword effect, and is currently primed white atm.

Lastly is the Wraithlord. I'm not looking for full robes, more like Half robes, or robes that have seen to much combat. Then again I'm going to give you artistic license on this one as half/tattered robes may look dumb. I have an old Avatar's sword I was going to use as the Witchblade. The Helm/head conversion was exactly what I was looking for. And i know it sounds cliche, but I wanted the Rune is Isha (Ulthwe craftworld rune) used as one of it's eyes.
Currently this model is unassembled as I didn't know if assembled or unassembled would be easier to do the grand conversion. If you would need it assembled I can do it easily within a week (in case of a 2 week start date). Last question about this conversion, do you do magnetics? If you do I would want 2 sets of guns done up so i could swap out the guns. If not I'll just send the extra guns and do the magnetics myself.

I understand the 6 week mark given general time frames. one reason why I'm going this route, I've already done 50 guardians, 6 Swooping Hawks, 10 Dark Reapers, a Falcon tank, and 9 Warpspiders. It taken me the better part of the year to get this far.


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Sent: Mon 9/10/07 3:49 PM
To: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)


On 9/10/07, Jon Kopecky <prosimian7@hotmail.com> wrote:
ok here is the full details of what i need done then. My current painting skills range is roughly your standard range with every now and then something more in the line with a step between standard and plus.
I was going to go with a plus paint job mainly due to the amount of detail on warlocks and such.

>Sure. That probably would have been my suggestion as well for these more elite models.

Basic color scheme is black for the robes (Ulthwe craftworld colors). With the Armor being various mixes of Golds, and Silvers (junior warlocks silver, senior warlocks being Gold) Robe trims for all the warlocks was to be bone/white as well, someting simple as a trim around a hem or arm, to a simple rune (in a convienient to paint spot, I'm not big on tryin to paint things in hard to get to spots myself) Witchblades and singing spears I have done similar to the most recent codex, Bone with one exception. Gems on my weapons are blue, Gems against Black are Red, and Lastly any gems that are against a red background are Green. (For the gems I have already done i was using the Layered style; dark, slightly lighter, lighter, and white dot)

The Farseer's are only slightly different Robes are still black With yellow/gold trim (yellow with gold traces if that makes sense, basically so it looks gold but different than that of the armor trim). I wish a deep red/purple for Armor. Gold armor trim as the senior warlocks.

>No problems there.

The Autarch is a conversion I based on an old PSone game "Legend of the Dragoon" off of the character by the name of Rose. As best able to I want the Autarch to look like rose did in the Dragoon form. Here is one conversion i needed done. I wish to have some sort of flame/aura effect around the sword itself (this sword doesn't have to be in the same bone style of the Warlocks/Farseer) In the end effect I want he to look like the "Dark Angel" kind of model.
this model is already converted except for the sword effect, and is currently primed white atm.

>The conversion doesn't sound like it would be a problem, I'll see if I can dig up some pictures of the character you are taking about so that I can have a better reference for what you are after.

Lastly is the Wraithlord. I'm not looking for full robes, more like Half robes, or robes that have seen to much combat. Then again I'm going to give you artistic license on this one as half/tattered robes may look dumb. I have an old Avatar's sword I was going to use as the Witchblade. The Helm/head conversion was exactly what I was looking for. And i know it sounds cliche, but I wanted the Rune is Isha (Ulthwe craftworld rune) used as one of it's eyes.

>Sounds like fun. I'm not completely sure myself what would give the best looking robed effect on that model, I've got a firm idea of how I think the rest of the conversion, but I'll need to try some things to find what I like. I'll probably take some sculpey and mock up some really basic robes on it before I start to get an idea of what will fit well with the shape of the model before getting underway.

Currently this model is unassembled as I didn't know if assembled or unassembled would be easier to do the grand conversion. If you would need it assembled I can do it easily within a week (in case of a 2 week start date).

>Probably best to just leave it unassembled, that gives me more options to play around with while figuring out the best posing with the conversion work.

Last question about this conversion, do you do magnetics? If you do I would want 2 sets of guns done up so i could swap out the guns. If not I'll just send the extra guns and do the magnetics myself.

>Sure, that's no problem at all, though it helps if you can include the magnets. Just let me know how many weapon options you want, and I'll quote it accordingly.

I understand the 6 week mark given general time frames. one reason why I'm going this route, I've already done 50 guardians, 6 Swooping Hawks, 10 Dark Reapers, a Falcon tank, and 9 Warpspiders. It taken me the better part of the year to get this far.

>Yeah, I know how it can be. It sounds like you've got a great start so far, and we can help you finish things off so you'll be ready to start gaming. For this level of work, I'd estimate 4-5 weeks, and I should have an opening as soon as a week and a half from now.

Thanks,
Painter6479 Studios


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Mon 9/10/07 9:10 PM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)


Ok I have enough magents left to do what i wish done. OK I want the Shuriken Catapults and flamers done up so i can swap out the forearm mounts with the combo I want. The shoulder mount (oposite the hand that will be holding the wraithsword) I'll be sending a Brightlance and a Starcannon. The model is currently all on sprue still except for a few bits (weapons) that i removed for other projects.

If you wish the Bits removed and Cleaned Please let me know, that Way I can pack them accordingly.

Lastly I don't need any base work other that painting, (Wraithlord, and Farseer's bases have extra bit from the standard models) The common bases can be left brown (I use Valejo Terra) And the enhanced bases can be painted to a nice complimenting "rock" style, but I do not need any static grass or whatever as I wish to base it similar to the other units. I'll be separating the models into the senior/junior classification that I want painted as well.

That should be the last of it. I'll begin to pack things up in anticipation of a price, And I understand that the Wraithlord is currently the big money swinger. Either way I'm still going to hand over artisic lisence to you, since I know that sometimes I'm cutting around 3 models just to get the perfect head, arm, or pose.

From: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)
Sent: Wed 9/12/07 3:06 AM
To: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)

On 9/10/07, Jon Kopecky <prosimian7@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ok I have enough magents left to do what i wish done. OK I want the Shuriken Catapults and flamers done up so i can swap out the forearm mounts with the combo I want. The shoulder mount (oposite the hand that will be holding the wraithsword) I'll be sending a Brightlance and a Starcannon. The model is currently all on sprue still except for a few bits (weapons) that i removed for other projects.

>No problem there.

If you wish the Bits removed and Cleaned Please let me know, that Way I can pack them accordingly.

>Sure, if you want, but it's not a big deal either way. I wouldn't mind having any extra bits from the sprue that you don't need for your own projects, it's always nice to have a variety of parts on hand for conversion work.

Lastly I don't need any base work other that painting, (Wraithlord, and Farseer's bases have extra bit from the standard models) The common bases can be left brown (I use Valejo Terra) And the enhanced bases can be painted to a nice complimenting "rock" style, but I do not need any static grass or whatever as I wish to base it similar to the other units. I'll be separating the models into the senior/junior classification that I want painted as well.

>I really prefer to get completely finished pictures of models with basing whenever possible, they look a lot better in the gallery that way. If it's not a problem for you, you could include your basing material and a picture of one of your own bases and I could match them for you here.

That should be the last of it. I'll begin to pack things up in anticipation of a price, And I understand that the Wraithlord is currently the big money swinger.

>Yeah, all the rest I could give you a quick quote for, but it's a little hard to really estimate the conversion time required for something like you have in mind. I could quote it as a possible range, or coming at it from the other side, if you have a budget in mind, I could figure out what kind of conversion we can do for you that range.

Either way I'm still going to hand over artisic lisence to you, since I know that sometimes I'm cutting around 3 models just to get the perfect head, arm, or pose.

>I think my record is pulling parts from across 7 army ranges for each model for some custom black knights I made for someone once. Everything from a Nurgle lord steeds to dark elf lances went into those guys.

Thanks,
Painter6479 Studios


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Wed 9/12/07 6:57 AM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

To be honest, the bases are not exactly finished yet I have pebbles, glass stones, and some static grass here. They are currently based enough to get "on the field" I do not like to field and units not painted and done. While the bases are not done, they are "done" enough to be on the field.

I'll send you one of my bags of static grass and a handfull of pebbles/stones, as well as a small tub of the flocking I used. While I will fully understand the your job will be better, it will not look completely out of place.

again all part of the "work to much, have a kid, and an old house" reason why it has taken me forever to even get as far as I have


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Wed 9/12/07 12:44 PM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

I'm just going to send you the sprue's intact. Go ahead an have the extra bits, as I said I've just removed a few that i had slated for already. Go ahead and do what you want mine was simply going to be a few rocks with static grass sticking out from around it. And every now an then a piece of sprue carved up to resemble Wraithbone with a few gems attached. I'll send you a bit of everything i was going to use. Go ahead and keep the rest of that as well.

As for pricing I'm going off of the "standard paint job" price list and figure roughly 13-15 per fig roughly 12 figs of the "standard sized" giveing a price range of roughly 156 to 180$ add some more to that rough figure for the Autarch and Farseers. A bit for conversion, Thinking that is going to be somewhere in the range of 200 - 230ish. As for the Wraithlord i wasn't sure how that was going to be classified. As a monstrous infantry or as a warjack...

As things are standing Everything is ready to go, just have to add some of the basing stuff I has set aside for this project. And then again I'm going to need an address to ship it all to.


From: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

Sent: Wed 9/12/07 5:20 PM
To: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)

On 9/12/07, Jon Kopecky <prosimian7@hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm just going to send you the sprue's intact. Go ahead an have the extra bits, as I said I've just removed a few that i had slated for already. Go ahead and do what you want mine was simply going to be a few rocks with static grass sticking out from around it. And every now an then a piece of sprue carved up to resemble Wraithbone with a few gems attached. I'll send you a bit of everything i was going to use. Go ahead and keep the rest of that as well.

>Sounds good, thanks.

As for pricing I'm going off of the "standard paint job" price list and figure roughly 13-15 per fig roughly 12 figs of the "standard sized" giveing a price range of roughly 156 to 180$ add some more to that rough figure for the Autarch and Farseers.

>That's about right for our Standard level work. Warlocks have a lot of fiddly detail, so they would be closer to $15 each, and generally characters like the Autarch and Farseer at that level are $20-25, closer to $50 if you want them bumped up to our Plus level work.

A bit for conversion, Thinking that is going to be somewhere in the range of 200 - 230ish. As for the Wraithlord i wasn't sure how that was going to be classified. As a monstrous infantry or as a warjack...

>He is pretty big, actually larger than most warjacks, and should come in near the high end of that range. The conversion work is the big question mark there, something nice could be done on the simpler side to keep the budget down, or something involving a lot more extra detail and conversion could be done if you want something that really stands out. If you have a specific budget in mind, just let me know and I'll get you a suggestion of what kind of work we can do in that range.

As things are standing Everything is ready to go, just have to add some of the basing stuff I has set aside for this project. And then again I'm going to need an address to ship it all to.

Sure, mainly what's left is to sort out payment and get the models here so they can be ready when our next slot opens. We accept payments via Paypal at painter6479@gmail.com, and you can mail the models to:

Painter6479 Studios
40273 164th st E
Palmdale, Ca 93591


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Wed 9/12/07 6:59 PM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

Ahh I misread the blurb under the plus section. This is my splurge project, So I basically have the go ahead to do what I want. (I'm doing this instead of finishing my Chaos and Tau armies basically)
so If i gather it right we are looking at more like 260-280ish for all but the wraithlord. I did want the plus level of work.

I looked at a few robe styles and I'm thinking a Tattered Cloak and Stole may be more the route to go vs a robe.
I'm an looking for more of the travelling cloak not the small tabardish cloak though. Something that might curl around behind him if he were to be actually walking vs just waving in the breeze. About knee length or so.

If it helps your conversion ideas the Wraithlord is going to be the farseer's "bodyguard"or 1 man Seer council. background of the figure is that the Farseer saw so much promise in one of his "former" students he put his soul into the wraithlord body.
Kinda corney but When I read in the game how wraithlords are made it was the first Idea of how to get a wraithlord that fit the craftworld profile.

As for payment schedual I have no problem paying the amount for the farseer, warlocks, and Autarch ahead of time and if you want to price the Wraithlord as you go based on what you need to do I'm sure we can work on it as you do what you need to do to make it look good.

As for painting Personally I'd rather have the Farseers stand out over the rest of them (except the wraithlord, which I want the conversion to hit them first then the paint job) Basically I'd be happy with the 40-50 job on the farseers, while the 30-35 ish on the Autarch. I figured on a 14-15 job apiece on the warlocks. I guess if the Wraithlord fit in around 70ish that might get what I was thinking, not exactly sure as I only really have the standard pricing list to work from. Then again 70 might not be anywhere near what I want.

Ok lets shoot for the Head conversion (into a ghost helm) the sword swap (sending the old Avatar Sword) The Wide cloak and Stole, Painted to roughly the Warlock standard. As to what I wish done.


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Sent:
Wed 9/12/07 7:42 PM
To:
Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)



On 9/12/07, Jon Kopecky <prosimian7@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ahh I misread the blurb under the plus section. This is my splurge project, So I basically have the go ahead to do what I want. (I'm doing this instead of finishing my Chaos and Tau armies basically)
so If i gather it right we are looking at more like 260-280ish for all but the wraithlord. I did want the plus level of work.

>Something like that should work well.

I looked at a few robe styles and I'm thinking a Tattered Cloak and Stole may be more the route to go vs a robe.
I'm an looking for more of the travelling cloak not the small tabardish cloak though. Something that might curl around behind him if he were to be actually walking vs just waving in the breeze. About knee length or so.

If it helps your conversion ideas the Wraithlord is going to be the farseer's "bodyguard"or 1 man Seer council. background of the figure is that the Farseer saw so much promise in one of his "former" students he put his soul into the wraithlord body.
Kinda corney but When I read in the game how wraithlords are made it was the first Idea of how to get a wraithlord that fit the craftworld profile.

>Ah, I see. Yeah, it helps to have an idea of the background you have in mind for this kind of conversion, that makes it a bit easier to see where you want to end up.

As for payment schedual I have no problem paying the amount for the farseer, warlocks, and Autarch ahead of time and if you want to price the Wraithlord as you go based on what you need to do I'm sure we can work on it as you do what you need to do to make it look good.

>Sure, that will work just fine. You can go ahead and make a payment once you are ready, that will secure the next painting slot for your project. After that, just go ahead and box them up and send them over. Once I've gotten the wraithlord, I'll play around with a few options and see what looks like it will make the best fit, then I can give you some options for the conversion work along with expected pricing.

As for painting Personally I'd rather have the Farseers stand out over the rest of them (except the wraithlord, which I want the conversion to hit them first then the paint job) Basically I'd be happy with the 40-50 job on the farseers, while the 30-35 ish on the Autarch. I figured on a 14-15 job apiece on the warlocks.

>That should get you a nice look on all those that will stand out well as elites among the rest of your force.

I guess if the Wraithlord fit in around 70ish that might get what I was thinking, not exactly sure as I only really have the standard pricing list to work from.

>Yeah, I really need to expand the pricing information for the Plus level work. It's a more recent addition to offer something in between our Basic and Premium work, and I still need to write up a more detailing pricing breakdown for that level of work.

Then again 70 might not be anywhere near what I want. Ok lets shoot for the Head conversion (into a ghost helm) the sword swap (sending the old Avatar Sword) The Wide cloak and Stole, Painted to roughly the Warlock standard. As to what I wish done.

>I would give a ball park estimate of anywhere from $70 to maybe $110 or so, really depending on how much work is going to be required for the conversion you have in mind. The helmet conversion will probably require the most fine detail, while the cloak and stole could come together quickly, or might need a lot of work to get to look just right on that model.

Let me know if you have any questions, otherwise it sounds like we are pretty much ready to get things underway as soon as you want to get it all kicked off.

Thanks,
Painter6479 Studios


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Thu 9/13/07 2:42 PM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

Finshed with the paypal transfer. Just to tie things together the transaction number was: 6LD69709GJ723305W

Also sent the package Priority with the DC# 0306 0320 0001 3690 2140
You should get it by either Sat or Mon

thanks


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Sent:
Thu 9/13/07 6:11 PM
To:
Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)


Great, thanks for the heads up. I'll let you know as soon as the models arrive and I get everything unpacked.



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Sent: Tue 9/18/07 8:28 PM
To: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)

Hi, just a quick update to let you know your models arrived.

Could you give me a complete list of what was in the box though? It showed up looking like it had been stomped on, with one crushed side and the other side split open with a medium sized hole in it. It looks like you packed everything well enough to stand up to the abuse, but I wanted to make sure nothing fell out.

Thanks,
Painter6479 Studios


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Wed 9/19/07 5:23 PM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

Ok there was a wraithlord on sprue in its box. Inside that box should have been a set of magnets and the avatar sword. (the sprue had a few thigns removed before sending)

there was a plastic divided "box" that contained all the farseer's and Warlocks. If I count things right there was 2 farseers (one with a spear and one with a sword, both standing on some "rocks") 2 Senior Warlocks, and 3 pair (6) junior warlocks (2 with swords in front of them, 2 with swords in a side/behind position, 2 with spears)

There should have been a white bag/wrap with the Autarch in it, it should also have a set of "jewels" taped to the side

The modeling/senic stuff should have been: A baggie of static grass, a baggie of clump foilage, a small container of flocking, and a small container of purpleish gravel/stones

I don't think i sent any of the onyx cubes, If i did there should be a small bag of roughly 3/8 inch onyx "cut rocks" But i belive i ommited them at the last second as the cubes really didn't go with the man-sized models


From: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)
Sent:
Mon 9/24/07 4:13 AM
To:
Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)


Ok, in that case nothing fell out. You packed it all really well, even with the crushed box none of the models you sent appear broken.


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Mon 9/24/07 4:42 AM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

good when you mentioned crushed, The first think\g ithought of was that Autarch, that particular model's base/legs has already broken on other models (swwoping hawk exarch)


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Thu 10/25/07 8:52 PM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

Hello I commisioned you a short while back to work on a small eldar project.
(1 wraithlord, 1 Autarch, 2 Farseer, 8 Warlocks)
I'm only writing due to the wild fires in Ca and if i remember right you are based in Ca.
Making sure things are "on time" and ok there.


From: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)
Sent: Tue 11/27/07 3:14 PM
To: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)

Hey, I just wanted to check back with you, after all the mess with email while I was out for surgery, I don't think I ever heard back from you about the sample pictures I sent. Did those come through OK, or should I get them posted up in the site gallery so that you can take a look?

Thanks, and sorry for not checking back in with you sooner, I only just realized I had never heard back from you.


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Tue 11/27/07 5:11 PM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

I'm sorry i never recieved those pictures. I had you added to my safe list though I've been insanely buisy in school so they might have been missed somehow, checking my filters i do not see them there either. If it is easier for you to resend them try that again, if for some reason they do not make it I'll have to have you post em.


thanks for the heads up. I wasn't to worried as you posted about the fires and the surgery so I was being fairly lienient.


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent: Wed 12/05/07 6:09 PM
To: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)

If you have sent it again I still haven't gotten it. It would probily just be easier if you just tossed it into your gallery.


From: Painter6479 Studios (information@painter6479.com)
Sent: Fri 12/14/07 8:55 AM
To: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)

Yep, those are yours, I had sent you a link to the gallery, but I've been having some email issues so I guess it didn't make it.

Are these the right pictures?
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This is an enquiry e-mail via http://painter6479.com from:
Jon Kopecky <Prosimian7@hotmail.com>

Hello. I understand that there has been considerable intteruptions to your web service as well as the fires and medical problems. It has been an extended period since I have seen any reply from you on my project. Emails with pics have not shown up and nor have thje pics shown up in the gallery.

My project is a small Eldar Project containing:
1 homemade Autarch
1 Wraithlord
2 Farseer
8 warlocks

I had already pre-paid for all the work except for the conversion on the wraithlord as you were unsure the actual pricing for the conversion.
I understand that things may have been hectic and things may have been delayed. However I was assured to revieve an update on the project over a month ago and nothing has shown in either the mail or in the gallery.

I would greatly appreciate an update if not a notification that the project is done (project was commissioned last October and tenative schedual for completion was shortly after the new year, with the fires and medical I understand a delay)


From: Painter6479 Studios (support@painter6479.com)
Tue 3/11/08 4:44 AM
To: prosimian7@hotmail.com

You might have seen the news update on our web page, but we wanted to take a moment to contact our customers via the new email system for those that might have missed it. After getting some expert assistance, we are rolling out a number of changes.
First up and already in place, our email has been reconfigured for our domain, and we have a contact address both for pre-sales and current project support. Coming online shortly will be a live messaging system to contact us via the web page, as well as a toll free number. In the coming weeks, we will be implementing online project logs, with progress information, notes, and pictures in one place.
Right now, we are importing customer data into the new system, which is part of what this message is about. Since we are currently pulling from several sources to unify this information, there might be a hiccup or two as it comes together, but if anything seems out of place please just let us know.

Currently, your project is being finalised, we've posted some pictures at:
http://painter6479.com/index.php?option ... temId=6570
I've tried something new with the cloaks on the characters, and I just wanted to make sure you were happy with everything before shipping.


From: Jon Kopecky (prosimian7@hotmail.com)
Sent:
Sat 4/19/08 5:42 PM
To:
Painter6479 Studios (support@painter6479.com)


Hello
I've noticed that the message has changed on your website about how you are going to be conducting painting from now on. I'm curious about an update on the project that I had set into motion. According to the pictures you have presented below, most of the project was close to being finished. From what I see all that needed to be done was the Bases, the Autarch and the Wraithlord

I have already sent payment enough for all the figures, however pricing for the wraithlord was not finalized as you didn't know the amount of conversion it was going to take. If the man sized figures are finished, and the wraithlord aspect of the project is yet to be started I'd be willing to call it done in the interest of wanting to field my army. If the wraithlord part has been started I'd definitely appreciate an update as the last one was slightly over a month ago. If you are still interested in doing the wraithlord part, please get a hold of me so we can discus pricing for the project so I know how much to set aside.

I do not wish any bad will. You mentioned wanting to do certain types of projects and I'm willing to compromise due to the extended time the project has taken.

Thank you.


From: prosimian7@hotmail.com
Sent: Mon 6/02/08 6:32 PM
To: support@painter6479.com

Hello,

It has been a considerable time since this project has been commissioned (roughly 3 months shy of a year)
It would be very helpful to know some sort of completion date or at minimum an update on the progress.
Your last email made a mention of "Currently, your project is being finalized we've posted some pictures"
This was roughly 3 months ago.

Please respond with some sort of acknowledgement



From: prosimian7@hotmail.com
Sent: Wed 6/18/08 11:53 PM
To: support@painter6479.com
Cc: sales@painter6479.com

I have been extremely patient with everything that has gone on. However It has been nearly 9 months that my project has been commissioned.
For a project that "For this level of work, I'd estimate 4-5 weeks, and I should have an opening as soon as a week and a half from now". (arrival date of goods to your studio 9/18/2007)

I would appreciate a resolution to my project NOW. Contact me now or legal action will be taken. I will give you 3 days to respond.
Thank you for your time.

Contents of my project

Eldar Autarch (home conversion + one more conversion detail added by you)
Farseer (x2)
Seer council (x8)
Wraithlord (new in opened box)
The project was, for the most part, paid "so they can be ready when our next slot opens"

Jon Kopecky

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No models showed up at my door during the "ready to ship" phase, though My figures are still up in the gallery if you wish to view them. I'm actually happy with the results, If I were to ever get them back

[Lormax]

Heya Jon. I hope things go well and you get your stuff back. You omitted the link to the pics of your work though..I'm actually kinda curious as to how they turned out. Do you have the link handy?

[mrrshann618]

Actually the link was burried in the post, justa tad bit from the end.

However I'll repost the link so every can see where the project left off at
http://painter6479.com/index.php?option ... temId=6570
There was an email that many of us who are having problems with this individual got saying about changes and how the project will be shipped soon.

While I liked the work being done, being told 6-8 weeks fora turn-around (including shipping) and getting only this far after roughly 6 months....

[Lormax]

Clicking on the link brings up the below...

This account has been suspended by WireNine.com.

This account has been temporally suspended. If you are a visitor to this website, please check back shortly.

Guess he can't even pay for his webhosting now.

[montyc89]

Hello,

I'm in the same boat, I sent a 1500 point army and half the payment in early Feb, and was told 6 weeks. It's now July and nothing. After their site was pulled, I filed fraud charges with www.ic3.gov and www.fraud.org. Paypal was absolutly no help.

Here's to hoping we get our stuff back, back not looking good.

[MagickalMemories]

Hello,

I'm in the same boat, I sent a 1500 point army and half the payment in early Feb, and was told 6 weeks. It's now July and nothing. After their site was pulled, I filed fraud charges with http://www.ic3.gov and http://www.fraud.org. Paypal was absolutly no help.

Here's to hoping we get our stuff back, back not looking good.

montyc89 ( 0 )
New Trader

Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:17 am

Monty, Welcome to Bartertown.
I hope you have nothing but good experiences while you're here.

That being said...

You arent' allowed to do that. Not even for Painter6479.
You just started your Bartertown account today and this is your first post.
You're committing 2 "no-no's."
The first is that you're posting a "me, too" in someone else's BTR thread. If you have a BTR complaint, you have to start your own thread. What you did is like starting a BTR with no proof.
Secondly, as a brand new member, your deal with him was obviously not a Bartertown based transaction.
Only B-Town based transactions are eligible for complaint here.

Please, take the time to read the rules for posting and the Bad Trader Reporting rules. The Administration and Moderator staff can get pretty picky about rules violations. As you hang around, you'll discover that there's more leniency on some rules than others. This, however, is more for people who have already demonstrated an understanding of the rules. Violating a rule on your first post doesn't go over quite as well, however.

Don't worry about this. It's not such a big deal that you need to worry about. It's just a friendly reminder.

Eric

(Posted to thread and sent via PM).

[montyc89]

Sorry about that, won't happen again. I was a member of BT awhile back so I should know better. Apologies.

[Lormax]

Montyc89,

In case you missed it, MagickalMemories has a thread going at the link below for people to try and recover their stuff from Painter6479. I'm actually surprised he didn't plug his own thread in his post

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=68579

Hope that helps you.

[NuWishA]

which is only for people that have a valid BTR.

[Lormax]

To be fair, I did try and edit the post to include the OP in my reply but found I couldn't edit. I try to keep my posting in this forum to a minimum cuz of the rules So, mrrshann618, check out MagickalMemories link as well. Looks like he's trying to organize a way to get your models back.

[mrrshann618]

Actually I've already jumped though all the hoops already. I'm in the process of contacting both sheriff dept for posterity reasons. If you read MM's rant about only one person speaking up.. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who has spoken up.
I've filed both forms, mail and federal. I've already sent information a few ways as to the contents of the project.

When I posted the link, it worked. I tried it again and got the same message about the account on hold.
Sad part is, if you cruse the posts about painter6479 you will see that the account being suspended isn't the first time happening.

[MagickalMemories]

I misspoke in my rant, BTW... There are TWO people who have spoken up, but only one has committed to getting him models back... the other is in an unusual predicament with HIS stuff.

mrrshann618: (and everyone else, for that matter) I've heard from one person that the local PD doesn't want to take the police report & has referred him to HIS local PD first. :shrugs:

Eric

[mrrshann618]

My local sheriff dept is actualy the one contacting me, it seems that the http://www.ic3.gov site sends copies of the report to the affected departments. I haven't been contacted by the Palmdale on yet, and the officer handling my case just went on vacation (I'm getting back in contact on Sunday night)

[bhouze]

Hey that's my Void Dragon Phoenix pictured on his site. He finished late so offered me a credit. Then promptly won't return my e-mails. The dude is a deadbeat and B-town should not associate with him.
My 2 cents