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GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by kturock » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:43 pm

I've seen several ads looking for paints/inks/washes.
Here is the official regs for mailing USPS. Note it says the bottles MUST screw closed. Friction tops must be in another container, not another box.

The following conditions apply:

Liquids. Nonhazardous liquids, creams, and pastes (particularly those in 1–gallon paint cans with only friction–top closures) are often a source of damage to other mail and postal equipment. The proper packaging of liquids is critical to ensuring the integrity of the mailpiece during handling.

All liquids are subject to the general packaging requirements in DMM 601.2.4 and the following:
Containers having friction–top closures are not acceptable by themselves. Such containers must be packed within a strong and securely sealed outer packaging.
Screw caps with a minimum of one and one–half turns, soldering clips, or other effective means must be used to ensure a secure closure.
Glass and other breakable containers more than 4 fluid ounces and any containers over 32 fluid ounces must be cushioned within a sealed, waterproof container such as a can or a plastic bag, and must be packed within a strong and securely sealed outer packaging.
Steel pails and drums with carrying handles and positive closures (e.g., locking rings or recessed spouts under screw–cap closures) may be accepted without additional packaging.

Full reg. http://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_017.htm#ep290284
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by Forsaken Poptart » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:04 pm

Great info, thanks for sharing! Is this a newer regulation?
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by kturock » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:24 pm

Forsaken Poptart wrote:Great info, thanks for sharing! Is this a newer regulation?
Depends what you call 'newer'. Airline regulations change, as do NSA's. USPS is now having to follow NSA's rules and regulations in addition to it's own, and those of the airlines. Things changed with airlines since 911.

Almost everything USPS handles flies on a commercial airline. You no longer have the choice for mail to go 'by ground'.

Also with internet business increasing, more things are being shipped than ever. People used to buy locally. Now with the internet, people shop online, even from local stores.
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Post by usernamesareannoying » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:45 pm

Just don't declare it? Are they going to open it and look at what style cap is on the bottle?
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by kturock » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:01 pm

usernamesareannoying wrote:Just don't declare it? Are they going to open it and look at what style cap is on the bottle?

NO, but when it breaks open, and damages the machine and other peoples items, and gets thrown away; don't cry because it was thrashed.

And if we hear liquid, it gets held aside. The postal inspectors and/or the local hazmat teams get called in. Sometimes shutting down the building. Then it gets opened. If it's something that's not supposed to be mailed, it gets thrown away. If its something illegal, the authorities are alerted. Sometimes the local police are called in and the shipper or receiver has to explain why they broke the regs.
I've seen people ship illegally killed animals and the State Wildlife officers, postal inspectors and federal wildlife officers were called in. I don't recall who actually arrested him.

With USPS now being under Homeland Security, things have gotten serious. Long gone are the days you could sneak drugs through the mail. The anthrax attacks put all that aside.

We just had it happen locally, after someone was receiving dehydrated rats to his religious store. The box was rotted open, and 2 people got sick. One collapsed from the chemicals. He had show his permits for selling them. I think he's being sued by several people because of it. He was embarrassed by the tv reports, and is also trying to sue them.
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by s_o_r_r_o_w » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:11 pm

So they can be sealed inside a Glad plastic storage container or such? Or a ziplock bag?
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Post by kturock » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:56 pm

Nope. Something that won't pop open by being squeezed; something that doesn't close by friction.
Both of those are friction only. Another small box, of heavy card. Not from cereal or shoe boxes. A jar or container that screws close, with and 1 half twists/turns. That's 540 degrees.

Drop a 70 pound box on your package. If it doesn't crush, you've packed it correctly.
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by s_o_r_r_o_w » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:32 pm

So duct-taped closed? ;)
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by kturock » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:36 pm

s_o_r_r_o_w wrote:So duct-taped closed? ;)
It'll still look like a ketchup packet in a fast food parking lot.
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by kturock » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:12 am

Since I was asked these in PM, here's some more answers.

All USPS mail goes on commercial airlines. It sits on the runways, tarmac and everywhere else you luggage goes. It sometimes is in non-climate controlled parts of the plane. Meaning it can freeze or explode with temperature and pressure changes. Express mail usually flies on FedEx planes. They have a contract to carry it. That's part of the deal where USPS delivers some FedEx deliveries. USPS has or had deals & contracts with UPS, Emory and every major or minor shipper in the US.

GW sends and receives it shipments via FedEx. FedEx has their own planes. They are subject to some of the same rules, but not all of them, as commercial airlines. They have more control over what gets put in what plane and what part of the plane. They also have a trucking fleet. Yes, USPS uses trucks. It hires private, contract drivers for intra-state shipments.
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by mysticarcher » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:58 pm

Just tossing this out, not sure if it would be acceptable:

What about placing the paint pots in a plastic amber vial like prescriptions come in? A 20 dram vial would be about the right size with a little padding. Obviously peal off any label so it doesn't look like you're shipping actual medication.

The safety caps are a locking top and they are fairly water tight.

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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by kturock » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:01 pm

mysticarcher wrote:Just tossing this out, not sure if it would be acceptable:

What about placing the paint pots in a plastic amber vial like prescriptions come in? A 20 dram vial would be about the right size with a little padding. Obviously peal off any label so it doesn't look like you're shipping actual medication.

The safety caps are a locking top and they are fairly water tight.
Almost, except most don't lock tight enough. My pill bottles only turn maybe a quarter turn.
Also remember, it won't contain the paint spill when it loses pressure on an airplane.
That's why it must turn 1 and 1/2 times; so the liquid doesn't leak out.
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Post by 3eland » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:08 pm

So brands like Vallejo would be fine?
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Re: GW paint/inks/washes CAN NOT BE MAILED USPS

Post by kturock » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:29 pm

Hmmm.. I just checked my Game Color paint. It was a 1 and almost 1/4 turn.
It needs to be 1 1/2.
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MY ALWAYS TRADE LIST: Scar Weaver, wmeredith, bloodstrike, tionas, wetstone, Frank Austin, akum, SW-DABOSS, Galador, nahatley, Joeb, Squeakula, mongse, con-fusion, basaint, jugglingfool, IsaiahTheBarbarian, Purple40k, Standard of War, BA-Best .

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Post by 3eland » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:19 pm

Darn it!

So close yet so far...
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