Kidnapping Good Trade References

Shirokuma · Post by **Shirokuma** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:04 am

When you complete your end of a trade deal, why is it some traders hold as ransom a good trade reference for you until they receive a good trade reference first?

What purpose does this serve? My opinion is an action like that is absurdly petty. If anyone has a deeper, logical insight to this phenomenon, please share it.

Thanks for your patience.

( 832 ) · Post by **MagickalMemories** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:27 am

Well, now, I'm not saying *I* do it... But I know why it happens in many cases.

Alot of traders are lazy, careless, forgetful (me, at times) and/or selfish.

Many just don't care enough about YOU to leave a ref. I have probably had a dozen trades where the person didn't leave a ref for me... GOOD trades...

As I said, there are some people like me, who can be forgetful. For those people, an email or PM is typically all they need.

If the guy is saying that he'll leave one after you... He's being defensive against those rude traders who just don't bother. he's taking the "I'm not helping you if you don't help me," approach.
Honestly, I can't say I blame them. I did it for a while.

I've just let it go, now. That's all.

IMO, it goes like this;
You RECEIVE first, you LEAVE first. The person who gets the benefit of not having to ship first should FEEL obligated to leave his reference because his side of the trade was successful.
In the case of simu-ships... Leave it when you get it... Leave the ref when you get the package.

That's juy MY opinion, of course.

Eric

Shirokuma · Post by **Shirokuma** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:35 am

Ah. Well, I subscribe to your current philosophy as well.

Alsiaie · Post by **Alsiaie** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:10 am

Considering my rating, I often time have others send to me first. In this case, I do not post a reference once my package arrives. However once I confirm that the package I sent arrived, then I will leave feedback. There are a few reasons why references should be left after BOTH parties have completed their end of the deal.

nightshade_eyes · Post by **nightshade_eyes** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:12 am

There was a thread not too long ago about this very same subject. It is frustrating to not receive feedback when a trade goes well even after you have left the other trader a positive reference. I'm sure it has happened to dozens of traders. It sucks but....

Be glad you only got shafted on the feedback not your mini's.

I say that because in the past two months, the bad trader boards having been buzzing. Seems like there are a lot of sour deals happening recently (more than usual imo). So if a trade goes well, be thankful you were not one of the unlucky traders we have had as of late. Hope you get the feedback you deserve.

Shirokuma · Post by **Shirokuma** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:29 pm

nightshade_eyes wrote:Be glad you only got shafted on the feedback not your mini's. I say that because in the past two months, the bad trader boards having been buzzing. Seems like there are a lot of sour deals happening recently (more than usual imo). So if a trade goes well, be thankful you were not one of the unlucky traders we have had as of late. Hope you get the feedback you deserve.

True enough. I guess there are worse things than missing good trade references.

faol · Post by **faol** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:53 pm

nightshade_eyes wrote:There was a thread not too long ago about this very same subject. It is frustrating to not receive feedback when a trade goes well even after you have left the other trader a positive reference. I'm sure it has happened to dozens of traders. It sucks but....

Be glad you only got shafted on the feedback not your mini's. I say that because in the past two months, the bad trader boards having been buzzing. Seems like there are a lot of sour deals happening recently (more than usual imo). So if a trade goes well, be thankful you were not one of the unlucky traders we have had as of late. Hope you get the feedback you deserve.

Yes, that is all to true being one of those people who were stuck in a bad trade but thank goodness it all came out...after 6 months of BS