Hi all,
I'm curious about the situation in Australia with GW products (and prices) and why things are the way they are.
Can anyone who's dealt with shipping to Australia (and Australian buyers and sellers in general) give me a bit of a low down on the topic?
Thanks!
Geoff
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Re: GW & Australia
When you say 'the way things are', what exactly are you referring to?
GW localized sales of their products to each region sometime ago, with no cross-selling of regions, as I understand it. So, the US theoretically cannot sell to Europe, Europe cannot sell to Australia, etc. Australian and New Zealand (ANZ) prices for GW products have traditionally been sky-high, and the move appeared to (a) keep a high revenue stream originating from ANZ, and (b) possibly use ANZ as a price testing ground for the rest of the world.
So, that leaves ANZ generally stuffed when it comes to GW products. Overseas sellers of GW products have found a way to by-pass this embargo, but it is a grey area at best, and a lot of the bigger companies like Wayland abide by the GW embargo to the letter.
At least in part, this gives ANZ buyers of GW products a sour taste in their mouth, but GW are certainly pulling in the monies from ANZ (see their latest finanical report - bear in mind the figures will have been interpreted, for stock and investor relations reasons), so it is quite obvious that ANZ customers are still buying.
If you want more information in general and discussions on GW trade practices, head over to Dakka and search through their Discussion threads.
GW localized sales of their products to each region sometime ago, with no cross-selling of regions, as I understand it. So, the US theoretically cannot sell to Europe, Europe cannot sell to Australia, etc. Australian and New Zealand (ANZ) prices for GW products have traditionally been sky-high, and the move appeared to (a) keep a high revenue stream originating from ANZ, and (b) possibly use ANZ as a price testing ground for the rest of the world.
So, that leaves ANZ generally stuffed when it comes to GW products. Overseas sellers of GW products have found a way to by-pass this embargo, but it is a grey area at best, and a lot of the bigger companies like Wayland abide by the GW embargo to the letter.
At least in part, this gives ANZ buyers of GW products a sour taste in their mouth, but GW are certainly pulling in the monies from ANZ (see their latest finanical report - bear in mind the figures will have been interpreted, for stock and investor relations reasons), so it is quite obvious that ANZ customers are still buying.
If you want more information in general and discussions on GW trade practices, head over to Dakka and search through their Discussion threads.
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Re: GW & Australia
That actually tells me a lot. But how does GW keep suppliers and retailers from cross-selling region-to-region?
When The Pawn Hits The Conflicts He Thinks Like A King
What He Knows Throws The Blows When He Goes To The Fight
And He’ll Win The Whole Thing ‘Fore He Enters The Ring
There’s No Body To Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might
So When You Go Solo, You Hold Your Own Hand
And Remember That Depth Is The Greatest Of Heights
And If You Know Where You Stand, Then You Know Where To Land
And If You Fall It Won’t Matter, Cuz You’ll Know That You’re Right
What He Knows Throws The Blows When He Goes To The Fight
And He’ll Win The Whole Thing ‘Fore He Enters The Ring
There’s No Body To Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might
So When You Go Solo, You Hold Your Own Hand
And Remember That Depth Is The Greatest Of Heights
And If You Know Where You Stand, Then You Know Where To Land
And If You Fall It Won’t Matter, Cuz You’ll Know That You’re Right
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Re: GW & Australia
If you're a major company, it would be written into your terms and conditions of doing business with GW. Failure to comply would probably mean termination of that relationship. For some companies, even large ones, GW products may form large chunks of their inventory, and therefore, revenue stream. Loss of GW as a supplier may therefore cause a big impact to a company's bottom line.
GW most certainly realizes that they cannot enforce the embargo in its entirety, for every single company out there. The intention would probably be to capture the larger companies in the embargo, and accept the loss of the smaller companies who want to play in the grey area.
The other thing to keep in mind is that it may sometimes be hard to get stock from GW. This most recently came to light with the Eldar Wraithknight - again, there's a big discussion on Dakka about this. Salient points, as I understand it, are that (a) GW released a small percentage of overall inventory globally downstream, and kept the vast majority of stock for sale through GW On-line, and (b) this caused a lot of companies being unable to keep up with demand, causing a lot of customer dissatisfaction. It was postulated that this was part of a greater strategy by GW to shift sales to on-line via GW directly, and it seems further evidenced (albeit through inference) through closure of many GW hard stores and reduction of staffing in the stores that remain.
Not that anyone has a better alternative - GW's closest competitor uses a ticketing system for distributing stock, i.e. take a number, and they will get around to you. But that's a whole different discussion.
GW most certainly realizes that they cannot enforce the embargo in its entirety, for every single company out there. The intention would probably be to capture the larger companies in the embargo, and accept the loss of the smaller companies who want to play in the grey area.
The other thing to keep in mind is that it may sometimes be hard to get stock from GW. This most recently came to light with the Eldar Wraithknight - again, there's a big discussion on Dakka about this. Salient points, as I understand it, are that (a) GW released a small percentage of overall inventory globally downstream, and kept the vast majority of stock for sale through GW On-line, and (b) this caused a lot of companies being unable to keep up with demand, causing a lot of customer dissatisfaction. It was postulated that this was part of a greater strategy by GW to shift sales to on-line via GW directly, and it seems further evidenced (albeit through inference) through closure of many GW hard stores and reduction of staffing in the stores that remain.
Not that anyone has a better alternative - GW's closest competitor uses a ticketing system for distributing stock, i.e. take a number, and they will get around to you. But that's a whole different discussion.