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Painting contest with a prize input

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Hey so I'll be taking over for honorfor1films painting contest thread from now on it seems. However due to a few hic-ups in the last contest I wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions the the rules of the contest as they are now.

Here are the current rules.
1. The entry charge to the contest will be five dollars a model. Note you only have to pay this if yours gets picked and painted and the pics are uploaded. Having your picture up for selection is free. The money will be paid to me though PayPay and will be the prize money at the end.

2. Unless the owner says otherwise painters can do anything you want to the plastic models(chainsaws, Zombie ect.)

3. Shipping costs for the last one was about 1.29$ so if you want to enter a model you can expect to pay about that much.

3. Any painter may request up to three models(unless not all of them are requested then you can take as many as you dare)

4. The owner of the model will pay for shipping his way and the painter will pay for shipping his way.

5. Any person out side the U.S. needs to say so upfront. If they are entering a model then I will list their country besides their model. If they want to paint a model I'll just ask the models owner if they would be willing. If the person out side the U.S. wants to offer to pay shipping both
ways then that would be great.

6. When the painters take a picture of their model they need to pm me with a name for it.

7 All models get three shots upload, Front, Back, Specialty(something neat or cool about the model).

8. If you(a painter) get busy and fail to paint your model you will be required to pay the owner what he paid to ship it to you.(and you still have to ship it back).

9. Dioramas with other infantry models are allowed. No cavalry, monsters or anything that’s to much bigger then standard infantry though. And you can only use models in the contest. Note that unless the owner has said that you can do whatever you want with the model you should make it so the model can come off of the diorama.

10. All models must be around warhammer size, and all models must be generally around infantry size. Banner bearers and hero's are allowed but no tanks, cavalry or huge monsters. If the model costs more then 30 dollars it probably wont work.

11. You can offer models and go in as a painter. But you may not paint and enter your own models.


Other random notes and bits of information.

1. The owner of the model may offer to send money with the model for the painters shipping. Whether or not he offers this will be listed by the models picture.

2. Some of the people who are entering their models to be painted may want them to match their army or be painted along a certain. If you(the owner of the model) want a specific style then send me the description and I'll post it with the models picture. If just want to list a picture of how you would like it painted/based then you can send it to me and I'll upload it. Then I'll post a link next to the models description. If painters are interested in that model they can just click on the link. Please don't be too restrictive though because the painter may not use games workshop's paints and we have to leave some room for creativity(otherwise it's no fun).

4. Here's how the payment will work, if your model is picked then you will mail the package to the painter. If your model is picked and painted you will send five dollars to me though PayPal. When a winner is picked then I'll then distribute the prizes. Note that you will not have to pay the five dollars until the models are listed. Then I'll start collecting the money and by the time there's a winner I should have it all together and can send it right out to the winners. How much the prizes are will depend on how many people have models painted.

5. And the owner will also have the choice to post request a gloss coat, matte coate, none.

6. If a painter has less than ten feedback I will tell the owner so and it will be his choice to do so or not.
I was thinking because the last contest took roughly an extra month or so to get up to poll time because of mail time to a very distant country that we WOULD be allowing painters to work on their own minis. However as this will most likely cause some cheating I need ways to make it fair not fail.

I thought possibly having a newspaper with the date shown in a pic with the mini being sent to me when ever I ask could help this out.

I also think that if you choose to paint your own mini it would cost slightly higher to get it up on the poll (no shipping charge like they get) so like $7 or $8 or something.

And then there is also the idea that I just say that we will be painting some random mini from a starter box that is common, like aobr or skull pass minis, and ask all painters to do the newspaper thing but that would eliminate the minis from other sources and a bunch of the prize money support.



Yeah so if anyone has any ideas about anything having to do with the paint rules or what theyed like to see as I start to run it please post here. I will be checking in throughout the day but I am working 12 hours today so no guarentee when....
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I have enjoyed being part of 2 of these and want to thank HonorforONEFilms for doing them!

I like the idea of people submitting minis to be painted. I think that if you allow some people to paint their own mini, then this whole thing will just turn in to a regular painting contest that can be found anywhere else. The fun of this was sending a miniature and not having any idea what it was going to look like when it was finished.
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I have a few issues.
I intended on addressing them with Hf1F, but I had no idea he was going to stop hosting this.

Looks like you're my man, EZ.
4. The owner of the model will pay for shipping his way and the painter will pay for shipping his way.
Now, you're making this known upfront, so I'm not saying it's dishonest. Anyone entering the contest as a painter should have read the rules and be aware of this.
That being said... you're just hamstringing yourself.
"Want to enter the contest? Sure. BTW, there's no guarantee that you'll win and, regardless, it's going to cost you money to paint someone else's mini."
Even if I had the time, I wouldn't enter the contast as a painter for this reason.
10. All models must be around warhammer size, and all models must be generally around infantry size. Banner bearers and hero's are allowed but no tanks, cavalry or huge monsters. If the model costs more then 30 dollars it probably wont work.
You should give a maximum base size. I mean, a grot on a dreadnought base *is* an Infantry sized model. KWIM?

Other random notes and bits of information.
1. The owner of the model may offer to send money with the model for the painters shipping. Whether or not he offers this will be listed by the models picture.
IMO
This should be a requirement.

Where's #3???
4. Here's how the payment will work, if your model is picked then you will mail the package to the painter. If your model is picked and painted you will send five dollars to me though PayPal. When a winner is picked then I'll then distribute the prizes. Note that you will not have to pay the five dollars until the models are listed. Then I'll start collecting the money and by the time there's a winner I should have it all together and can send it right out to the winners. How much the prizes are will depend on how many people have models painted.
To cover yourself, payment should be paid up front and "refunded" via PayPal if the model isn't chosen. You cannot be stiffed for the "entry fee" this way.


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I was thinking because the last contest took roughly an extra month or so to get up to poll time because of mail time to a very distant country that we WOULD be allowing painters to work on their own minis. However as this will most likely cause some cheating I need ways to make it fair not fail.
Bad idea, IMO. There's just too much room for screwy behavior.
And then there is also the idea that I just say that we will be painting some random mini from a starter box that is common, like aobr or skull pass minis, and ask all painters to do the newspaper thing but that would eliminate the minis from other sources and a bunch of the prize money support.
Not quite sure what you meant.
Everyone painting THEIR OWN "common" models? Only "common" models are allowed to be sent in? Something else?

I also think your contests are starting to lose a LOT of steam. You might want to contemplate a bi-monthly contest. Last contest was in March? Next one is in May.

Nothing "official" up there. Just suggestions.

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Yeah next will most likely be in may (to work out kinks)

sorry the whole common mini thing was my bad 'just woke up later for work (at 6) bad typing'...so not sure either. :-D

Do u think a time limit of 1month is wayy too long? Say may 1st is send out date, must have mini pics by June 1st 12:01 pacific time?

Might loose more steam if I do that...


I was also thinking of asking advratisers here on Btown if they wanted to donate a gift certificate for their products /services or something for number 1& or 2.


Back to work I go....
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EZ mac wrote:Yeah next will most likely be in may (to work out kinks)

sorry the whole common mini thing was my bad 'just woke up later for work (at 6) bad typing'...so not sure either. :-D

Do u think a time limit of 1month is wayy too long? Say may 1st is send out date, must have mini pics by June 1st 12:01 pacific time?

Might loose more steam if I do that...


I was also thinking of asking advratisers here on Btown if they wanted to donate a gift certificate for their products /services or something for number 1& or 2.


Back to work I go....
*I* don't care if you ask them, provided they do make their way to the winners.
Is a month too long? Maybe.
It's not too long for International contestants, considering that they're going to get about 2 weeks to paint the mini... but it might be too long for the contest, in general. Like you said about losing steam and all.

What if you posted NO minis until you had your whole list of minis to be painted.
Post what country the mini is currently located in, as well.
Once it's posted, give anyone not in the same country as the mini they want TWO days to choose a mini. Maybe a week, otherwise.
Once the minis that are to go internationally are chosen, they should be sent (immediately) to give a little jump on shipping.
Models are to be shipped one week after they're posted (So, 5 or 6 days to choose your mini?) and there's a 2 week painting time fram from that date.
That means that some individuals (Aussies, for example) might be given less time to paint their models... Them's the breaks.

Just a thought.


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So I've pmed all the advatisers to see if we could get more prizes and have gotten at least 1 really cool prize so far... Hopefully more will come around.

I think I will be going along with much of mm's advice on most of it (like making a 3rd rule...)

I'm thinking $5 entry must be sent once a mini is chosen (I'll give it back if the mini is not actually finished by the painter), return shipping = mandatory, 3week time limit including shipping time and give international painters 3days extra for time of ship (I'll just have the minis owner send 3days early), and a firm cut off time.

Anyway back to working on other stuff.
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