BTR - Yujirohanma - Resolved by PayPal

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BTR - Yujirohanma - Resolved by PayPal

Post by crazybaldhead » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:34 pm

INTRODUCTION:

Yujirohanma posted an ad for an Infinity Paradiso rulebook for sale. We agreed on a price ($30 shipped), and I paid him immediately using PayPal on 9/10. After hearing nothing for 4 days, I inquired for a status and was told he would ship it in the following afternoon. That was the last communication from him. I then emailed the address from the PayPal payment with another inquiry for status on 9/23. I received a PM from Blackyujiro on 9/24 stating that he is Yujirohanma's parent and would follow up. I requested that if it wasn't sent yet, to issue a refund, which he eventually agreed to do on 9/26. I have yet to receive my refund.

PROOF (PMs and email):
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Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal
Sent: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:53 pm
by crazybaldhead
Subject: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal

Yujirohanma wrote:Campaign Paradiso book for sale.
$35 shipped(CONUS)



Would you do $30 shipped to XXXXX(NOTE: removed my zip)?

Thanx,

Rick

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Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal
Sent: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:49 pm
by Yujirohanma
If you can send payment tonight, I'll do $35.

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Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal
Sent: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:22 pm
by crazybaldhead
I can buy it new for $40. I can do $30 shipped, and I can pay right now.

Thanks,

Rick

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Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal

Sent: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:52 pm
by Yujirohanma
Sorry, I mis-typed that. I meant $30.
PayPal is natelamar1974@gmail.com

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Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal

Sent: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:58 pm
by crazybaldhead
No worries :)

Payment sent to the email you specified. You can send it to the PayPal address. To confirm, it's:

Richard Denny
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(NOTE: removed my address)

Thanks!

Rick

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Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal

Sent: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:38 am
by crazybaldhead
Haven't heard anything from you in a couple of days. Have you mailed this yet?

Thanks,

Rick

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Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal

Sent: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:15 am
by Yujirohanma
Got tied up at work. Will send this afternoon.

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Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal

Sent: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:12 pm
by crazybaldhead
Have you sent the Paradiso book yet?

Thanks,

Rick

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From: XXXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXXXXXX.XXXXXXXXX (NOTE: removed my email)
To: natelamar1974@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Have: Infinity Paradiso book, Want: PayPal
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:35:33 -0400

Did you ever mail me the Paradiso book? I haven't heard anything from you since you said that you would mail it on 9/14. It's 9 days later, no book, no notice that it was mailed, and no replies from you.

Please get in touch with me in the next 2 days, or I'll have to assume that you're not intending to live up to your end of our deal.

Thank you,

Rick Denny
XXXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXXXXXX.XXXXXXXXX (NOTE: removed my email)

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Infinity book

Sent: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:54 am
by Blackyujiro
Hello, I received your email concerning the Paradiso book. It's actually my son who sold it to you on his account, Yujirohanma, but it is linked to my PayPal. I will look into this immediately, and if he has not shipped, I will put it in the post myself, this weekend. Sorry for your inconvenience. Sigh....kids

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Re: Infinity book

Sent: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:28 am
by crazybaldhead
I appreciate you getting back to me. Your son hasn't responded to any of my messages for the last 10 days.

I paid for this 14 days ago. If he hasn't shipped it yet, I'd rather you refund my PayPal payment.

Thank you,

Rick

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Re: Infinity book

Sent: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:21 am
by crazybaldhead
Has the book been shipped yet? If not, please refund my payment. I would appreciate a response ASAP.

It's now been 15 days since I paid with no resolution. If I haven't received a response by 9 PM Eastern time today with either a tracking number or a refund, I will have no other choice but to open a dispute with PayPal.

I can appreciate that you're trying to fix your kid's mistake, but I've spent more time on this than anyone should have to, and I've been more than patient.

Thank you,

Rick

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Re: Infinity book

Sent: Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:17 pm
by Blackyujiro
Will send refund after work tomorrow, around 10pm central.

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Re: Infinity book

Sent: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:19 pm
by crazybaldhead
That works for me. Thank you.

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Re: Infinity book

Sent: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:28 am
by Blackyujiro
Send me your email for PayPal or an invoice.

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Re: Infinity book

Sent: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:14 am
by crazybaldhead
The payment was made on September 10th. If you view the transaction, there should be a link to "Issue a Refund". If that doesn't work, then you can send payment to XXXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXXXXXX.XXXXXXXXX (NOTE: removed my email).

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SUPPORTING INFORMATION:

I looked around online for a bit to see if there was some history, but it didn't turn up anything useful. The searchable information I have is on the parent who owns the PayPal account anyway.

FOLLOW THROUGH:

I opened an "Item not received" dispute with PayPal this morning to try and get my money back that way. Hopefully, it can be resolved that way.
1. Lower rating ships first. Buyer pays before shipping.
2. Please reply back to messages sent; a "no thanks" is better than not responding. I'll do the same.
3. If you don't like the price or trade terms I offer, please feel free to send a counter offer. They call it Bartertown for a reason ;]
4. If there is no communication after 48 hours, then our trade/sale is null and void.

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Re: BTR - Yujirohanma

Post by MagickalMemories » Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:37 am

Using that email address, I found this:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/nathan.moore.3591?fref=ts
Lower rating? You ship first.

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I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

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Re: BTR - Yujirohanma

Post by crazybaldhead » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:20 pm

Still no response to the PayPal Dispute; so, I escalated it to a PayPal Claim today.

Also, here's a link to the refs for Yujirohanma, per the BTR guidelines.
1. Lower rating ships first. Buyer pays before shipping.
2. Please reply back to messages sent; a "no thanks" is better than not responding. I'll do the same.
3. If you don't like the price or trade terms I offer, please feel free to send a counter offer. They call it Bartertown for a reason ;]
4. If there is no communication after 48 hours, then our trade/sale is null and void.

crazybaldhead ( 50 )
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Re: BTR - Yujirohanma

Post by crazybaldhead » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:59 pm

PayPal decided the claim in my favor and returned the funds. I didn't see any comments from the seller in the details for the claim; so, it appears that he never responded to the dispute or the claim. At any rate, this is now resolved.
1. Lower rating ships first. Buyer pays before shipping.
2. Please reply back to messages sent; a "no thanks" is better than not responding. I'll do the same.
3. If you don't like the price or trade terms I offer, please feel free to send a counter offer. They call it Bartertown for a reason ;]
4. If there is no communication after 48 hours, then our trade/sale is null and void.

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