I will be posting the conversation. And if the admins need to access my account to double check all the facts do feel free I am an open book. If there's anything else I can do to collaborate please do let me know this is my first time making a bad trader report so excuse me in advance. I am very upset with this nonsense. I contacted the 'seller' and he denied any wrong doing claiming that having more references automatically makes him right in Bartertown and basically stating that i'm screwed out of my money on the notion that admins apparently only agree with whoever has higher number of references.
These are our messages:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 12:24 am
by Akaiyou
Lol sorry i meant to ask how much would the total be for all these assuming you sweeten the deal for taking several of them, as you mentioned in your post that you would
Eldar:
2x Nightwing fighter - 1 primed black, 1 primed black with some paint (both missing the small fins) - $25
Orks:
2x Fighta - painted TT - $40
Imperials:
2x Thunderbolt fighter - TT painted thinly, so can be repainted/finished to higher standard - $40
2x Thunderbolt fighter - unpainted, assembled - $40
2x Lightning fighter - TT painted thinly, one has broken wing glued back on - $35
2x Lightning fighter - TT painted thinly, one is missing a tail fin - $30
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 1:07 am
by Gav99
Just to be clear, the listing contains 2 sets of 2 lightnings (4 total), and 2 sets of 2 thunderbolts (4 total)
I'd be knocking off a bit too much to go down to $100 for the 4 thunderbolts, 4 lightnings, and 2 ork fighters. I have them priced at $185 and can't knock about half off.
The elder is pending, but I consider sale closed once I get payment, so if we conclude a deal first then I will let the other guy know that they're gone.
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Oooooooooh so it's 10 of them total, ok so what is a reasonable discount for you, toss me a number you think is suitable and i can take it into consideration and possible take these 10 flyers off your hands.
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 1:22 am
by Gav99
Well if you want the 2 elder also then there'd be 12 lol.
The total I have the whole lot listed for is $210 (including the eldar). I can offer free shipping and knock $10 off, which means for $50 over your offer of $150 you're getting free shipping and 4 extra ships.
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So you are saying that the eldar are available if I pay $200 for everything? (all 12 flyers?)
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 1:38 am
by Gav99
They're available until the other guy pays lol. So if you pay first then they're yours and I'll tell him he waited too long to pay.
I must note though, that the elder are missing all but 1 of the small tail fins, hence the price for them
Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 1:46 am
by Akaiyou
I'm confused the eldar flyers are missing everythign except for 1 small fin? that's how your message reads. Im not sure if that was intended.
The original listing said they are only missing the small fins. Please send pics of these flyers to my email <removed by staff>
I usually pay immediately if the deal is good and communication is prompt.
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 2:06 am
by Akaiyou
Alright sir so you want $200 for everything correct?
I would like to know if there's anything else in the spirit of full disclosure to know about the other items?
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 2:20 am
by Akaiyou
Gav99 wrote:
Any issues with the minis are written next to them on the listing, I just wanted to make sure that the Eldar were especially noted being as they're the ones you wanted most.
Just to be sure from my side, as I didn't stipulate free shipping destinations (foolish of me as certain countries are expensive regardless of weight), where would I be shipping them to?
Ship To:
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I believe we have a deal for $200 shipping included for all 12 flyers. If you can provide me with your paypal i can send payment right now. Always a pleasure to negotiate with good communication.
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 2:09 am
by Gav99
Any issues with the minis are written next to them on the listing, I just wanted to make sure that the Eldar were especially noted being as they're the ones you wanted most.
Just to be sure from my side, as I didn't stipulate free shipping destinations (foolish of me as certain countries are expensive regardless of weight), where would I be shipping them to?
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 2:30 am
by Akaiyou
Gav99 wrote:
Deal it is. If it clears immediately I'll have them out to you tomorrow, and PA to NY will only take a day or two.
Paypal is:
god99099@yahoo.com
Payment sent. My payments always clear you can check my references if you wish regarding that. Thank you for the great communication and specially for the full disclosure BT needs more of that. Please ship soon as you can I'll be looking forward to receiving the tracking number soon.
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 2:36 am
by Gav99
Received and cleared. I'll have them packaged up and out in the mail tomorrow for you. I'll link the tracking to paypal and send you the number here also.
Cheers,
Gav
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Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 6:38 pm
by Gav99
Tracking number 9405509699937601144775
Have them all heavily bubblewrapped and decently packaged so they should arrive as I sent them.
Sent: Mon May 18, 2015 6:50 pm
by Akaiyou
Gav99 wrote:
Tracking number 9405509699937601144775
Have them all heavily bubblewrapped and decently packaged so they should arrive as I sent them.
Is that USPS or UPS? The USPS website says
Tracking Number: 9405509699937601144775
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The Postal Service could not locate the tracking information for your request. Please verify your tracking number and try again later.
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Sent: Thu May 21, 2015 1:16 pm
by Akaiyou
Dude you sent me an empty box wtf? I'm reporting this.
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Sent: Thu May 21, 2015 2:28 pm
by Gav99
Funny, very funny. I packed those minis in carefully wrapped decently in bubblewrap. I have a photo of the packed box (I always take one as proof) clearly showing the minis packed inside.
So either you're lying to scam me out of my minis and the payment, or you're suggesting that the mailman stole the minis out of the box whilst in transit. As the latter is VERY unlikely, I have to surmise that you're lying to try to scam me.
As such you've earned a negative ref and a bad trader report for your scam. Being as you only have 8 refs to my 230 (and one of yours is sketchy as is) it'll only prove my bad trader report on you and you'll never trade or buy here again. I know the admin like to get the local police involved on scams so I'll be looking into this option also. I have your full name, address (from 2 sources), and our written agreement.
Edit:
I was tempted to post one straight away due to being furious but after speaking with my wife, who talked me down from a rash response, I will give you until this evening to come clean about this and end the dispute. If you continue with this scam I'll be forced to go ahead with the aforementioned course of action.
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Sent: Thu May 21, 2015 2:43 pm
by Akaiyou
Gav99 wrote:
Funny, very funny. I packed those minis in carefully wrapped decently in bubblewrap. I have a photo of the packed box (I always take one as proof) clearly showing the minis packed inside.
So either you're lying to scam me out of my minis and the payment, or you're suggesting that the mailman stole the minis out of the box whilst in transit. As the latter is VERY unlikely, I have to surmise that you're lying to try to scam me.
As such you've earned a negative ref and a bad trader report for your scam. Being as you only have 8 refs to my 230 (and one of yours is sketchy as is) it'll only prove my bad trader report on you and you'll never trade or buy here again. I know the admin like to get the local police involved on scams so I'll be looking into this option also. I have your full name, address (from 2 sources), and our written agreement.
Edit:
I was tempted to post one straight away due to being furious but after speaking with my wife, who talked me down from a rash response, I will give you until this evening to come clean about this and end the dispute. If you continue with this scam I'll be forced to go ahead with the aforementioned course of action.
That is great please lets get the police involved I filed a claim with paypal and I received your package and didn't even open it because 12 40k Flyers do NOT fit in a damn shoe box that has a weight of 0 lbs on the package. And when I move the box around there is absolutely no kind of noise indicating that there is anything inside. I am a grown ass man give me a full refund and stop trying to scam people on the internet.
I will be taking pictures of this "Shipment" you sent me all in its original packaging as proof of this absurdity. I thought the deal was too good to be true and it certainly was. I have all the proof necessary to seek my damn refund. I am not playing with you, if you changed your mind on selling the 'real forgeworld 40k models' then that's fine I would've accepted that you backed out of the deal without leaving you a negative reference, you aren't the first person that backs out. I can be very understanding and considerate, but i do not tolerate scammers. You are the second person running a scam that I encounter, first one tried to sell me some counterfeit goods passing it as real forgeworld, but you sir, you take the cake! You sent me an empty package. Congratulations.
I am filing a bad trader report as we speak and will seek the admins on this. I will stay on top of this until you provide a full refund, legal action will be most definetly sought PA isn't far from New York.