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Cynon ( 296 )
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Backout: Deathjack the ripper

Post by Cynon »

with someone so new i feel its necessary to do this in case a trend starts to develop. agreed to a trade, agreed to ship then today got a message saying 'something came up, cant do it now'

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:41 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
As something has come up I cannot go along with this trade. I am deeply sorry and apologize, but I have a higher priority that came up last night. I really am sorry.

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:25 pm
by Cynon
for some reason i have an odd number of skirmishers but whatever...the unit is 7+ua (i guess i lost one or something) and i found anastasia di bray (i think thats who it is) and ill toss her in to make up a little ground. everything is ready when i get the stuff my side will go out within 24 hours (usually)

Edit+++i just found an ashyll di elise (spelling is wrong) merc warcaster. if you get this in time and need her ill toss her in for your extoller. if not no worries

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:01 am
by Cynon
Awesome

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* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:34 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
I'm cool with this you can have the void spirits, plus the LE Eriyss really should be 15-18 because of the no quarter price. I'll have it in the mail tommorrow with confirmation shipping.I have work today so I can't make it.

Full Kayazies and UA - 58
skirmishers(min) and Ua - 50
Eriyss - 10
herne and Joane - 20
kell - 10
doc - 10
Saxon Orik - 10
alten ashley - 10
gorman di wolf - 10
piper - 10
= 198

For:

Cetrati - 85
bllodrunners - 35
tyrant and SB - 27
Molik Karn - 28
Void spirit x 2 - 20
cyclopse shaman - 20
= 215



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* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:29 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
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* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:27 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
I'm cool with this you can have the void spirits, plus the LE Eriyss really should be 15-18 because of the no quarter price. I'll have it in the mail tommorrow with confirmation shipping.I have work today so I can't make it.

Full Kayazies and UA - 58
skirmishers(min) and Ua - 50
Eriyss - 10
herne and Joane - 20
kell - 10
doc - 10
Saxon Orik - 10
alten ashley - 10
gorman di wolf - 10
piper - 10
= 198

For:

Cetrati - 85
bllodrunners - 35
tyrant and SB - 27
Molik Karn - 28
Void spirit x 2 - 20
cyclopse shaman - 20
= 215

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:21 am
by Cynon
wow i was totally confused lol. without the gundrun you are still up by 17 with him were exactly even retail to retail. you can remove the 2 void spirits to even us up then

* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:11 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
The bokor is no big deal. Saxon and Ashley will be fine. If the skirmishers are a min unit this is what we are looking at. So....:

Full Kayazies and UA - 58
skirmishers(min) and Ua - 50
Eriyss - 10
herne and Joane - 20
kell - 10
doc - 10
Saxon Orik - 10
alten ashley - 10
gorman di wolf - 10
piper - 10
= 198

For:

Cetrati - 85
bllodrunners - 35
tyrant and SB - 27
Molik Karn - 28
Void spirit x 2 - 20
cyclopse shaman - 20
= 215

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:07 am
by Cynon
I do have the piper (two actually lol)
i also have saxon orric and alten ashley i think, but i realized just now that i dont have a bokur i traded him for a gundrun the wanderer, im not sure if that changes your interest level any though they are all mercs and it would put us just about even i think (actually exactly so)

* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:45 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
Right now what I'm getting is:
Full Kayazies and UA - 58
skirmishers(min) and Ua - 50
Eriyss - 10
herne and Joane - 20
kell - 10
doc - 10
ogrun bokur - 20
gorman di wolf - 10
piper - 10
= 198

Cetrati - 85
bllodrunners - 35
tyrant and SB - 27
Molik Karn - 28
Void spirit x 2 - 20
cyclopse shaman - 20
= 215

So one solo short or if it's a full unit of skirmishers it may be in your favor.

* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:32 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
Is the skirmishers a min unit? And do you have the piper?

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:32 am
by Cynon
I am at work on my phone so I need to verify the prices but I think hats about right. I may be a little off.

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:19 am
by Cynon
Cetrati (full unit) - One unit primed
Bloodrunners - 4 painted and 2 assembled
Tyrant Commander and SB - assembled
Molik Karn - Painted
Cyclopse Shaman - primed
Void Spirit x2 - primed

for

full kyazies with UA\
Iridian skirmishers with UA (UA may be primed)
Eriyss *limited edition mail order only*
herne and jonne
Kell Balioch
Doc Killingsworth
Ogrun Bokur
i may have a gorman di wulf as well, but i would have to look

* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:05 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
That sounds great I want it all, retail for retail, pick what you want and we can work from there.

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:49 am
by Cynon
i would have to look but i think all i have is assembled, no paint.
full kyazies with UA\
Iridian skirmishers with UA (UA may be primed)
Eriyss *limited edition mail order only*
herne and jonne
Kell Balioch
Doc Killingsworth
Ogrun Bokur
i may have a gorman di wulf as well, but i would have to look

i think thats about it.

* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:37 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
Are they painted/unpainted, assembled/unassembled, or broken/good? I definatly want them if they are in good condition and depending on where thay are at the paint stage. The only ones there I don't need is Aiyana and Holt. What other solos?

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:26 am
by Cynon
Herne and Jonne. piper. Arian and Holt. Kyazie assassins + ua. Iridisn skirmishers + ua. Bokur. Le Eriss And maybe a few more solos.

* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:14 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
Well I'll keep your offer in mind at least. At the moment that isn't quite enough for the whole lot, but do you have any mercs?

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:08 am
by Cynon
Hey man thanks for getting back to me. As far as trades I have a fairly large menoth army (or �������/40k) but I don't think your interested in that. As far as cash goes I could only realistically offer about half of what you want.
If you don't have any bites and are still planning to eBay it as a lot I will have to just try my loch there.

* Quote Deathjack the Ripper

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:44 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
What would you offer for the whole lot? If you are only interested in trading, what do you have to trade?

* Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:50 pm
by Cynon
hey man, would you be willing to split up your skorne? im just looking to start getting into hordes with my buddys and love the look of the models. i would be interested in the lot of it but a little too rich for my blood, (sounds like times are tight for you as well). let me know!

Preatorians (full unit and unit attachment) - primed, two unassembled and one regular grunt has a broken sword
Cetrati (full unit) - One unit primed
Bloodrunners - 4 painted and 2 assembled
Tyrant Commander and SB - assembled



Subject: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Deathjack the Ripper wrote:EDIT: Now Even Cheaper buy Price!!!!!!(Was $500), Added my high priority wants.

I'm looking for mercs from warmachine. I would perfer unassembled/unpainted models. I want pretty much anything merc so rhulics or pirates or special units. Just let me know and we can try to work out a deal. I'll sell the whole lot for $300. Paypal Please! I will supply pictures if needed. If this doesn't go by Friday of next week it's going on ebay for 350+.

Purchase All models and Get dice for free - $300 (You pay for Shipping separate)

WANT
I will trade in your favor for these if they are unassembled or at least unpainted:
Steelhead Halberdiers (ful 10) X 2
Steelhead Heavy Cav (full 5)
Steelhead Riflemen (full)
Forge Guard (full 10)
Boomhowler and Co. (full)
Renegade x 2
Mangler

HAVE
What I have: (All but just a few, as noted, are in great condition with no missing pieces)

Casters
eMorghoul - Assembled
pMakeda - Primed
eMekeda - Primed
Mordikar - Primed with a one section of his cloak painted
Zaal and Kovas - Zaal is painted, Kovas is assembled
Hexeris - assembled
Xerxis - assembled

Beasts
Cyclopse Savage x2 - Primed
Basilisk Drake - Primed
Basilisk Krea - Painted
Titan Gladiator x3 - all assembled, one painted with missing pieces, one primed, one not primed
Rhinodon - primed with two missing knuckle spikes
Molik Karn - Painted
Cyclopse Shaman - primed

Units
Preatorians (full unit and unit attachment) - primed, two unassembled and one regular grunt has a broken sword
Cetrati (full unit) - One unit primed

Bloodrunners - 4 painted and 2 assembled
Tyrant Commander and SB - assembled

Solos
Ancestral Guardian - Assembled
Extoller Soulward - primed

Void Spirit x2 - primed
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Re: Backout: Deathjack the ripper

Post by blackspade »

Unfortunately you altered the deal in the last couple of PMs by attempting to add extra stuff.
That could be interpreted to negate the original deal that you set up.
That said, It would have been nice if a better explaination had been forthcoming.
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Re: Backout: Deathjack the ripper

Post by Cynon »

i dont think that was the case at all.

"Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:34 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
I'm cool with this you can have the void spirits, plus the LE Eriyss really should be 15-18 because of the no quarter price. I'll have it in the mail tommorrow with confirmation shipping.I have work today so I can't make it."

then i basically said here let me give you another model wanthing nothing. and he cancelled. there was an agreement to ship with the deal in place.
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Re: Backout: Deathjack the ripper

Post by Ironhide »

Not to be picky, but did you ask him "What came up?" Could be he had a medical emergency or a death in the family, which if he did, would make you look like a complete jerk. Also did you tell him you were going to file a backout report?

This whole thing took place over 2 days, which is really no big loss of time in my book. Just saying....
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Re: Backout: Deathjack the ripper

Post by blackspade »

This is the post I was referring to:
Quote Cynon

Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:25 pm
by Cynon
for some reason i have an odd number of skirmishers but whatever...the unit is 7+ua (i guess i lost one or something) and i found anastasia di bray (i think thats who it is) and ill toss her in to make up a little ground. everything is ready when i get the stuff my side will go out within 24 hours (usually)

Edit+++i just found an ashyll di elise (spelling is wrong) merc warcaster. if you get this in time and need her ill toss her in for your extoller. if not no worries


I was just pointing out that this post could be seen as changing the original deal as you were attempting to make a last minute change after the original deal was made.
It still does not explain the reason why he bailed though.
Cynon wrote:i dont think that was the case at all.

"Re: W: Warmachine Mercs or $$ H: Huge Hordes Skorne Lot

Sent: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:34 am
by Deathjack the Ripper
I'm cool with this you can have the void spirits, plus the LE Eriyss really should be 15-18 because of the no quarter price. I'll have it in the mail tommorrow with confirmation shipping.I have work today so I can't make it."

then i basically said here let me give you another model wanthing nothing. and he cancelled. there was an agreement to ship with the deal in place.
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Re: Backout: Deathjack the ripper

Post by Cynon »

No iron I didn't. I didn't think I had to. I made this post as a record of what happened and if a trend develops people can make their own judgement.

Sure it was only two days and I'm not heardbroken about it. But we had a deal and he backed out.
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Post by Ironhide »

Your intentions are good Cynon, but I believe the main intent of this board is to get those people who string you along for weeks, and then just drop off or cancel for no apparent reason. I'm not saying you are wrong in posting this; in fact, you are going by the letter of the law as the rules have been written. It is just my personal view that not every backout needs to posted, and it is a decision call on the person who got backed out on. If you feel your time was wasted or the guy was a complete jerk, then file away! Otherwise, move on to the next deal.

At least the guy you were making the deal with actually had the balls to tell you he couldn't do it, and somewhat gave you a reason. Some people don't even do that.
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