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Post by kutzmon » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:40 pm

After seeing post after post of this guy I have emailed the St. Thomas Police. I'm going to try and start an effort to get some satisfaction out of this deal. If anyone is interested in updates or helping in this please contact me at kutzmon at yahoo dot com

It may or may not get anything done but at least I can say I tried.
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Post by kutzmon » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:51 pm

Good day,
I have been contacted by the St. Thomas Police Dept. I had a nice talk with a detective who gave me the following info.

-They are opening up a case file on Mr. Jones
-They are going to locate him and inform him that if he does not return the goods or send what he was supposed to charges will be brought against him.
-It could be the end of the week before they get back in contact with me.
-If he does not comply I may have to be a witness in his trial.


From the sounds of things the police are going to be helpful in this. I will keep you updated on the proceedings. If you have been taken get all your evidence ready and in order. If you are interested in this please email me with your information and I can give your name and contact information to the detective. I'm sure the more people that come forward and file against Mr. Jones the harder things will be for him.

I have posted in both threads.
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Post by Morlock-Bloodletter » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:20 pm

Kutzmon,

Mr. Jones (Andrews or whoever) has some pretty incriminating posts in this thread on www.warseer.com

This could be useful in the investigation.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthrea ... 317&page=1

Here's an exerpt from page 3, his user id on warseer is Imma_De_Freakin_Pope
08-04-2006, 16:04 #24
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Re: Alert !!! Do Not Send To This Man!

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you guys are funny, go ahead, go to 215 first ave., and 399 talbot st.

if you go to 215 you will be going to an older couples house, that I got my mail from, and if you go to 399 talbot st, you will meet a sholrt guy who has no idea who I am, i just take his mail for him...and my name is not Steve Jones, or Scott Andrews...so good luck with all this fraud crap
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Post by kutzmon » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:13 pm

Thanks. I'll make sure the detective gets the link.
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Post by Brimstone » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:44 am

Hi I'm Brimstone a mod from Warseer.

The Admins and mods are more than happy to assist further in this matter.

So feel free to contact us further if anybody needs more information.

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Post by orcdom » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:46 pm

welcome to Bartertown Brim, i have this same screen name at warseer as well.

Steve
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I'm a little late but...

Post by rakeofd » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:24 am

Instead of just blocking his screenname, try banning his IP adress, that way he will never be able to get on this site unless you un-block him. Trying to help:

Me

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Post by kutzmon » Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:03 pm

Good day,
To my surprise I was contacted by the St. Thomas Police this morning. The Constable in charge of this case informed me that because of the low dollar value (under $500 US) this would fall under a civil case. She was very helpful with her information. Mr. Jones does in fact live at the address he has stuff shipped to. She has talked to the guy and set up an appointment for him to talk to her. He didn't show. (imagine that) She went to his house and he either was not home or did not answer the door. I informed her of the many people Steve has screwed over on this site alone and gave her the address to bartertown and this thread. She could not enter the site due to her systems php blocker. She said she would try from a different computer and take a look. If you want to pursue this feel free to contact the St. Thomas Police at 519-631-1224 and file charges with the criminal investigation unit. Canadians will have better luck at getting this guy because of international law jurisdictions. I truly believe if enough people take the time and file charges Steve will be in a world of hurt. I guess I started it, feel free to add your complaints and maybe something will get done. The St. Thomas police also have a website you can use to get in contact.

http://www.stps.on.ca/contact.html

I hope you take the time to get this rolling.

Thanks,
Dave
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Post by faol » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:31 pm

I do hgope everyone who was scammed by this guy does file that way an example will be made of himthat there is a 0 tolerance of for things like this Bartertown is a great site lets not let scammers, con-artists, and thieves ruin it
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Post by NuWishA » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:39 pm

So is he in Canada? Because in the states isn't $100 of stolen property a felony?

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Post by Zaakath » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:07 pm

Unless I'm mistaken, it's anything above $50 is a felony.
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Post by kturock » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:12 pm

it used to be $100, back in the 1980's. i think the amount increased because the cost of items have now increased.

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Post by NuWishA » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:28 pm

Well, I was only going by what a friend told me. He was a trooper for 20 or so years.

It may very well have gone up since he was working.

I however still think its $100. Though most people won't serve a full year unless they have lots of fun priors, or are as flippant about breaking the law as mister jones has been.

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Post by djinn24 » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:21 am

I bet if everyone who has been scammed bythis person would get together and tally a list of stolen goods it would equal to over $500 just from what I have seen on this post. Also you might want to ask the detective if the attempt to decieve a person into sending goods with no intention of sending return items is also against the law. Because if that is the situation then there are other charges that can be brought up against him as well.

Also since he used the USPS as part of his scheme I honestly believe he can also be brought up on charges in the United States as well for Mail Fraud.

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Post by MagickalMemories » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:37 am

Djinn,

Just say, "No" to Threadomancy.




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