Resolved - Waiting on Hoplite

[Predhead]

It's been a month since my Btown transaction with him. Was told from the start it was packaged up and on the way. It's been almost two weeks since being promised it was going out ASAP. We both live in the States, so it should not take this long.

From: Laconia Inc. <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bartertown Ad I changed the add
To: "Darryl Smith" <preds81@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 1:56 PM


65.20

paypal laconia1966@yahoo.com

I am packing it up now.

thank you

george

please give me positive feedback when you get the package

From: Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bartertown Ad I changed the add
To: "Laconia Inc." <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 1:43 PM


Hi George,

When was this package shipped out? I still do not have it.

March 2nd:

hey bro sorry its been boxed up I have had back problems I have not left the house.

I will send it asap sorry again!!!

[Ironhide]

You need to provide all the PMs that reference this trade, not just the last 3.

[Predhead]

You need to provide all the PMs that reference this trade, not just the last 3.

There are no PMs about the entire trade, I emailed the seller directly, and you see pretty much all the email traffic. The only other email traffic was about haggling over the price.

[MagickalMemories]

Email or PM makes no difference. You need to post the entire history, even the parts where you were just haggling.

Eric

[Predhead]

Here is the rest:

On Mon, 2/14/11, Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bartertown Ad I changed the add
To: "Laconia Inc." <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 1:07 PM

LOL, guess we are both frugal!

$60.00 it is. Do you take PayPal, and if so, which email address should I send it to?

2376 Madison Road
Unit E1G
Cincinnati, OH 45208
Darryl Smith
Organizer - Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Trailblazers
Trail Promotion/Social Media - Buckeye Trail Association
Hiking Pro - VenturePax

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Laconia Inc. <laconia1966@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Laconia Inc. <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bartertown Ad I changed the add
To: "Darryl Smith" <preds81@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 12:11 PM

I understand frugal. OK I want to get my money back or at least part of it. can we go $60.00 so I can get some other 20mm figures. Is that ok. What is your address? I will box them up to send them off.





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--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bartertown Ad I changed the add
To: "Laconia Inc." <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 11:12 AM

Hey George,

I can get new figures for 1.07 each (current exchange rate for 2 pounds is $3.20 - three figure pack), not much more than what you are asking for. When I go to Bartertown, I am looking for a deal, like half or more off. That's just me, others will pay more I am sure.

Now, if you want to move the entire lot, I'll offer $50.00, including shipping (yeah, I'm cheap...I mean frugal). I really just prefer the VC and Aussies, and I'll go $30.00 for them, including shipping.

I just checked the listing, it's still showing just the Aussies and VC.

Thanks!
Darryl Smith
Organizer - Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Trailblazers
Trail Promotion/Social Media - Buckeye Trail Association
Hiking Pro - VenturePax

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Laconia Inc. <laconia1966@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Laconia Inc. <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bartertown Ad I changed the add
To: "Darryl Smith" <preds81@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 11:05 AM

Darryl,

Thank you I changed the add I made a mistake.
I am sure we can work something reasonable out.

There 2 pounds for 3 figures. The exchange rate is like
3-4 US per 3 depending on the exchange rate. Brookhurst is not ordering anymore.
talk to you soon.
George

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--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bartertown Ad
To: "Laconia Inc." <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:35 AM

I can buy them new for that price...thanks anyway!

Oh, and your listing on Btown shows the following:

12 Aussies
2 VC HMGS
48 VC
Definitely not 92 figures.
Darryl Smith
Organizer - Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Trailblazers
Trail Promotion/Social Media - Buckeye Trail Association
Hiking Pro - VenturePax

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Laconia Inc. <laconia1966@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Laconia Inc. <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bartertown Ad
To: "Darryl Smith" <preds81@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:26 AM

there are
92 figures and a two machine guns for the VC.

I was thinking $95.00 plus shipping.
VC
Aussie
USA

factions.
George


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--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com>
Subject: Bartertown Ad
To: laconia1966@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 8:01 AM

Morning Hoplite,

I would be interested in the SHQ Vietnam figures (Aussies and VC). There are around 60 figures, how does $25.00 sound?

Thanks!
Darryl Smith
Organizer - Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Trailblazers
Trail Promotion/Social Media - Buckeye Trail Association
Hiking Pro - VenturePax

[MagickalMemories]

Based on the information in your most recent update, I've edited the thread title. Please, note that there is no user named "Laconia1966."

Eric

[Predhead]

Yesterday I received my figures from Hoplite and was actually looking forward to getting rid of this complaint, but upon opening the box 75% of the figures were NOT of the company he said they were. I offered a solution (see below). I do not want to send all the figs back, as I bought figs for a reason, and I do not want to wait for a check (it took a month to get the figs, imagine how long it would be to get a check). I will send them all back if that is what it takes, but i want my money first, just like he got his money a month before he shipped the figs.

when I bought them the guy said they were ALL shq. I was just thinking we just void the whole sale as it has been the most problems I have had in 6 years of selling figs.

its better to just void the whole thing.

send me all the figs back and I will mail you a check.

thanks

George



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--- On Thu, 3/17/11, Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: please email me when you receive it.
To: "Laconia Inc." <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 6:46 AM


I received the figures yesterday, but now we have another problem. Your ad clearly stated that these figures were SHQ, but only about a third of them are. The ones in the unmarked packs are RAFM, not SHQ. I don't want RAFM figures, I would not have agreed to buy RAFM figures, especially when the ad mentioned SHQ and nothing about RAFM. I propose you return $40.00 to me via PayPal and I will mail the RAFM figures back to you.


Actually, it is more like 75% are RAFM, so make that $45.00 to be returned to me.


Thank you,


Darryl Smith

Organizer - Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Trailblazers

Social Media Coordinator - Buckeye Trail Association

Hiking Pro - VenturePax

[Predhead]

And more...not sure why he says I am making this personal, I am just going from the facts. I offered two solutions, refund $45.00 and I will keep the SHQ figs and send back the RAFM, or refund $60.00 and I will send them all. I want my refund via PayPal, not check.

ok we are going to have a problem now.Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:21 AMFrom: This sender is DomainKeys verified"Laconia Inc." <laconia1966@yahoo.com>Add sender to ContactsTo: "Darryl Smith" <preds81@yahoo.com>I am not trying to have a problem now but the whole transaction is void on it face.

I will mail you a check for $60.00.

I no longer want to sell these figures to you at this point.

I apologized and you took this personally. I was trying to save you money by mailing you a check as you get all your money and paypal does not take any to try to make up for any inconvience.

I want all the figs back please.

Thank you
George




SPANISH CIVIL WAR IN 20mm!
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCW20/

We have a website!!!! Check out: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/laconiahobbies/

"Ìïëὼí ëáâÝ!" or "Come and Take Them!"

Check out VULCAIN SCENICS!
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/vulcainscenics/




--- On Thu, 3/17/11, Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Darryl Smith <preds81@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: please email me when you receive it.
To: "Laconia Inc." <laconia1966@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 9:58 AM


As stated, I am expecting a refund to PayPal, it is how I paid you. I will mail the RAFM figs once I have the $45.00 back, as I want to keep the SHQ figs.

If not, I will dispute the transaction with PayPal.

Darryl Smith

Organizer - Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Trailblazers

Social Media Coordinator - Buckeye Trail Association

Hiking Pro - VenturePax

[s_o_r_r_o_w]

It should be very easy for him to refund the PayPal payment, with no extra charges to either side.

I also encourage you to make sure you have some sort of Delivery Confirmation on the shipping when you return them to him.

[Predhead]

Indeed, I will! I am to the point of zero trust in him. So, I will puit delivery confirmation, heck, maybe even registered mail!

Darryl

[Predhead]

This one sounds like a threat...is it just me? I've never met theis person face to face, so why make a comment like this?

you are the first problem I had and I just want you to know that by posting this that fast to bartertown is not right. see you at the conventions for HMGS south or west and absolutly cold wars hcon and fall inn when you come up..

And then there is this one (of course I am not going to accept the SHQ figs as a gift, I will give him the money for those). I told him I am at work and can't take a call, so he rants about cell phones? Yes, I have one, can't take a call at work:

I was thinking you will get the partal refund and you can keep the SHQ figs as a st patricks gift.

This is not worth the trouble have fun on bartertown with all your posts it seems like you have way too much time on your hands anyway. People have cell phones and I could have called you to talk to you normally and resolve this but you are a passive agressive type that wants to be the king on cyberspace but in real life cant resolve things normally.

have a great st patricks day. You can post it that fast you seem to not see that people have lives and in those lives there is trouble that on can not forsee. But I will do what it takes to get you your money VIA PAYPAL

THANK YOU BARTERTOWN do not trade with this gentlemen anymore as he jumps the gun.

This is for when you post it on your long thread.

I will get you the refund via paypal as you want

Here's this one:

I am changing banks but I will do it your way to make you happy. That is why I want to just take the money and go to do a money order. But you want it your way so keep it that way.

I am extremely mad that you went right to bartertown and posted this when I wanted to talk to you. It seems like the moderators agreed and made you post everything.

I hope you get your karma backhand soon.

Is he going off the deep end?

And this threat:

I will refund you $40.00 and you will delete the thread or no deal.

This is non negotiable and you will delete the thread now on bartertown.

thank you

George

He has sent five emails one after another to which I have yet to reply, so who is the person with the issues here?

[s_o_r_r_o_w]

1. You need to post all relevant headers and all messages--including any you sent in response.
2. The thread will not be deleted. It can be marked "Resolved", but it will remain.


I think that receiving the $60 refund and sending everything back is the best way to go about things at this point.

@ Hoplite--you are welcome to communicate in this thread, with an eye towards resolution of this issue.

[Hoplite]

That is what I said in the beginning - void the whole deal and then he says he wants the figs. THEN he posts all this when I think things were resolved but he did not get his way he wants these SHQ figs ok its best for him to just get them.

Ok.

I will send him $40.00 via paypal.

this is not worth the effort my record here speaks for itself. I had a personal problem and thats why the figs were delayed and I apologized and he jumps the gun and does all this. I am finished wasting time on a person like this.

thank you again bartertown.

Hoplite

[Predhead]

No, that is incorrect. I gave more than one solution.

I have not done anything personally. I have done everything based on facts.

I will send all the figs when you send me a PayPal payment. It took you a month to send the figs, I certainly will not send the figs and wait for another month for a check. I paid you with PayPal, you can refund me with PayPal.

Not personal, but I want this resolved correctly. You received my money before I had the figs, I expect to receive my money before I return them. I, unlike you, will not make you wait a month. I can have them in the post this Saturday morning, IF the refund is there.

You listed an incorrect listing on Btown, made me wait a month for the figs, and I offered a reasonable resolution. Next step for me is to dispute the transaction. If you do not like that step, then resolve this buy refunding $45.00 and I will send back the RAFM figs, or in full and I will send them all back.

[Predhead]

And the personal problem excuse is just that, an excuse, as proven already. He said the second delay was because he went to Cold Wars.

Jumping the gun? I paid for the figs a month ago, I had to reach out to you two weeks later to find out where they were, had to reach out again two weeks after that to be told you went to Cold Wars, only to finally receive figs that were not as described. Offered two solutions, only to be told you want me to return the figures and then I'll get a check? Sent me threatening emails, and say I jumped the gun?

Simple, refund fill via PayPal today, or refund partial and I will send back the RAFM figs. Still the same reasonable solution.