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PUFNSTUF Backout

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:29 pm
by Dakkar98
*NOTE: Because of the admitted guilt, the following post is made with admin approval.*
Sorry to waste everyone's time with this, but this Report is way past due, and I want to clear out my mail box so here goes.

The initial negotiations for this deal began in late April/ early May of 2008.
PUFNSTUF disappeared from May until July, then negotiations started again.
I should have let it go then but he had some items that I really needed at the time. :roll:

Here are the PM's pertaining to what is essentially the 2nd and 3rd time he left me hanging.
Dakkar98 wrote:Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:14 pm
I am interested in these Items/Bits can I have some more detailed info on them please.

SM
Ravenwing Battleforce (NIB) - Is it open? if so how many Ravenwing Upgrade sprues come in it?

Eldar
3-4 Warlocks with one seer (assembled) - Is this the farseer w/ two blades?

Bits
nids
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs - which heads and which biomorphs?
rippers (regular and ones with spinefists) - how many spinefist rippers, how many others?

tau
many backpacks - how many?
many pulse rifles - how many?
a few crisis suite weapons and attatchments- what kinds and how many?

I have these items to trade as well as cash

HB and PC devestators, 1 dread, 1 termy CC box

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:31 am
sorry, been real busy. I will check on saturday, since I will not have time tommorow, and it won't be till late afternoon on sat.

all fex heads except regular ones from 3 sprues, all biomorphs minus 2 barbed strangler, 2 Venom cannons, and 2 devourerors.

have to check on rippers

raven wing has been opened to look at but nothing touched. think thiers 2 upgrade sprues.

other things have to count.

is the dread assembled? Do you have an nid warriors?
Dakkar98 wrote:Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:01 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:sorry, been real busy. I will check on saturday, since I will not have time tommorow, and it won't be till late afternoon on sat.

all fex heads except regular ones from 3 sprues, all biomorphs minus 2 barbed strangler, 2 Venom cannons, and 2 devourerors.

have to check on rippers

raven wing has been opened to look at but nothing touched. think theres 2 upgrade sprues.

other things have to count.

is the dread assembled? Do you have an nid warriors?
I am definitely interested in the Canrifex heads, toxin sacs, adrenal glands, the extended carapace bits, and possibly the Weapons.

Double Check on the Ravenwing box for me.

The Dread is partially assembled (feet glued to base, legs assembled and glued to feet torso assembled and pinned to legs so it pivots. In center postition it looks braced for firing. To either the left or right it looks as if it just took a step forward. Arms are not attached.

I do have some Tyranid Warriors for my sons army. Depending on what we can work out I might part with some. I can always get some more later.

For the devastators I can supply complete ten man squads if you want. Unpainted and mostly loose.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:54 pm
10 of each stealer head

2 warlocks with swords, one holding spear straight up. Farseer is also holding spear straight up and has hand held out in a stop position.

25-30 backpacks. Also squad leader arms with 4-5 sprues of 2 guns without hands on them and 2 of the shorter guns with arms attatched.

crisis weapons basically 2 of each with some extra parts here or there.

Ravenwing set is called for, a local friend of mine wants it, so he gets dibs first.
Dakkar98 wrote:Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:11 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:10 of each stealer head

2 warlocks with swords, one holding spear straight up. Farseer is also holding spear straight up and has hand held out in a stop position.

25-30 backpacks. Also squad leader arms with 4-5 sprues of 2 guns without hands on them and 2 of the shorter guns with arms attatched.

crisis weapons basically 2 of each with some extra parts here or there.

Ravenwing set is called for, a local friend of mine wants it, so he gets dibs first.
All of that sounds good so far.
I still need a count on the rippers.

Shame about RW Box, did you get a chance to see if there were two or three upgrade sprues in the box (Would like to know if possible in case I get a chance to buy another one)

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:22 pm
ah yes, forgot to say the rippers

10 spinefist
2 off sprue leaping
12 regular of sprue
3 or 5 assembled leaping rippers. (the ones on the picture in my thread)
Dakkar98 wrote:Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:08 pm
Ok, here is my proposal:
From Me:
1 box Assault Terminators NOS
1 Dreadnaught
10 Devastators unassembled - (2 HB, 4 PC, 2 ML, 2 LC) with bodies for all.

From you:
1 Zoanthrope
3-4 Warlocks with one seer (assembled)
Vyper (NiB)
Bits:

Tau
many backpacks
many pulse rifles
a few crisis suit weapons and attatchments

Nids
rippers (regular and ones with spinefists)
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs (Less the guns)
bunch of different stealer heads (10 of each special one basically)

I am pretty sure my math is a little off, but some of the numbers are a little vague.
There are a few things that I will probably not use but they are hard to sort out with the descriptions you gave me.

LMK what you think.
PUFNSTUF wrote:Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:18 pm
your dread is assembled correct?
Dakkar98 wrote:Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:39 pm
The Dread is partially assembled (feet glued to base, legs assembled and glued to feet torso assembled and pinned to legs so it pivots. In center postition it looks braced for firing. To either the left or right it looks as if it just took a step forward. Arms are not attached.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:25 pm
Okay, I don't want the dread since I like doing conversions and prefer unassambled. Anything else you have of equal value to substitute?
Dakkar98 wrote:Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:55 am
I could send you an unassembled Tactical Squad. And I was discounting the dread some because it was partially assembled so I may add back in a few of the things from you list that I took out.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:24 pm
hmm, no SoB? or vindicator? any unassembled rhino's?
Dakkar98 wrote:Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:55 pm
I have an unassembled rhino that I could send but I think I just have the round top hatches and nothing else from the hatch sprue. I got it in a trade and the guy just sent me top hatches I think I have to check.
If that is okay,
I'll send you:
The Rhino NOS (w/limited items from the hatch sprue)
1 box Assault Terminators NOS
10 Devastators unassembled - (2 HB, 4 PC, 2 ML, 2 LC) with bodies for all.

In exchange for:
Whole Models:
1 Zoanthrope
3-4 Warlocks with one seer (assembled)
Vyper (NiB)

Bits:
Tau
many backpacks
many pulse rifles
a few crisis suit weapons and attatchments

Nids
all the rippers (regular and ones with spinefists)
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs (Less the guns)
bunch of different stealer heads (10 of each special one basically)

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:53 am
which hatch items are missing exactly, I have some extra things from 2 whirlwind sprues so it might work
Dakkar98 wrote:Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:23 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:which hatch items are missing exactly, I have some extra things from 2 whirlwind sprues so it might work
I have hatch with the doors glued shut and a hatch with the gun mount with no gun, doors are not attached to this one but I have them.
Edit --->I did find another regular hatch with the doors not glued together as well.
Dakkar98 wrote:Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:47 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:hmm, don't really need that rhino. any spare termy bodies, legs, and heads? or a land raider?
I do have an unassembled land raider.

I'll send you:
The unassembled Land Raider
1 box Assault Terminators NOS
10 Devastators weapons - (2 HB, 4 PC, 2 ML, 2 LC).

In exchange for:
Whole Models:
1 Zoanthrope
3-4 Warlocks with one seer (assembled)
Vyper (NiB)

Bits:
Tau
many backpacks
many pulse rifles
a few crisis suit weapons and attatchments

Nids
all the rippers (regular and ones with spinefists)
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs (all of the items)
bunch of different stealer heads (10 of each special one basically)

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:47 pm
that sounds good to me. I will ship first since I have a lower rating. I may not be able to ship them out till after the long weekend though, so next tuesday would be the earliest
Following message was edited several times between August 1st and when he finally read it on November 16th.
Dakkar98 wrote:Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:53 pm
On Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:47 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:that sounds good to me. I will ship first since I have a lower rating. I may not be able to ship them out till after the long weekend though, so next tuesday would be the earliest
Tuesday August 5th is fine.

Recap of deal:
I'll send you:
The unassembled Land Raider
1 box Assault Terminators NOS
10 Devastators weapons - (2 HB, 4 PC, 2 ML, 2 LC).

You Send me:
Whole Models:

1 Zoanthrope
3-4 Warlocks with one seer (assembled)
Vyper (NiB)

Bits:
Tau
many backpacks
many pulse rifles
a few crisis suit weapons and attatchments

Nids
all the rippers (regular and ones with spinefists)
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs (all of the items)
bunch of different stealer heads (10 of each special one basically)

My address is:
*Address Removed*

Quote this back to me and send me your address as well.
Dakkar98 wrote:Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:01 am
Dakkar98 wrote:On Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:47 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:that sounds good to me. I will ship first since I have a lower rating. I may not be able to ship them out till after the long weekend though, so next tuesday would be the earliest
Tuesday August 5th is fine.

Recap of deal:
I'll send you:
The unassembled Land Raider
1 box Assault Terminators NOS
10 Devastators weapons - (2 HB, 4 PC, 2 ML, 2 LC).

You Send me:
Whole Models:

1 Zoanthrope
3-4 Warlocks with one seer (assembled)
Vyper (NiB)

Bits:
Tau
many backpacks
many pulse rifles
a few crisis suit weapons and attatchments

Nids
all the rippers (regular and ones with spinefists)
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs (all of the items)
bunch of different stealer heads (10 of each special one basically)

My address is:
*Address Removed*

Quote this back to me and send me your address as well.
PUFNSTUF,
I see that you finally returned on Sunday 11/16/08 and 3:49 a.m.
I need your address and I need to know when can I expect you to ship your half, since it is obviously going to be later than aggreed. If you wouldn't mind, I'd also like an explanation of the delay.

LMK,
Dakkar98 wrote:Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:26 am
PUFNSTUF wrote:that sounds good to me. I will ship first since I have a lower rating. I may not be able to ship them out till after the long weekend though, so next tuesday would be the earliest
Dakkar98 wrote:
Dakkar98 wrote:On Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:47 pm
Tuesday August 5th is fine.

Recap of deal:
I'll send you:
The unassembled Land Raider
1 box Assault Terminators NOS
10 Devastators weapons - (2 HB, 4 PC, 2 ML, 2 LC).

You Send me:
Whole Models:

1 Zoanthrope
3-4 Warlocks with one seer (assembled)
Vyper (NiB)

Bits:
Tau
many backpacks
many pulse rifles
a few crisis suit weapons and attatchments

Nids
all the rippers (regular and ones with spinefists)
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs (all of the items)
bunch of different stealer heads (10 of each special one basically)

My address is:
*Address Removed*

Quote this back to me and send me your address as well.
PUFNSTUF,
I see that you finally returned on Sunday 11/16/08 and 3:49 a.m.
I need your address and I need to know when can I expect you to ship your half, since it is obviously going to be later than aggreed. If you wouldn't mind, I'd also like an explanation of the delay.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF,
Since you are back and posting ads again I would like to wrap up our deal that we started negotiating in the end of April and finalized on August 1st. I consider that deal to still be pending. Due to the length of the original negotiations and the gap of time that you disappeared in the middle of those negotiations, I considered your absence of 3 1/2 months to be par for the course. I have held the items that I was to send to you for the last four months so that we could conclude our dealings when you finally returned. I would like to complete the trade as agreed.

At this time, I see that you were last on on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:26 am
Once this message has been read I will check to see when you were on. I will give you a minimum of one week (seven days) from that time to respond to my message. If you do not respond within that time frame I will assume that you are no longer interested in the agreed upon deal. If you notify me that you are no longer interested in the deal or that time has passed without a response from you, I will go ahead and create a post about you in the Deadbeat/Backout Section as well as post a detailed neutral feedback.
I hope it does NOT have to come to this, I just want to complete the deal that we both agreed to, and I believe that I have been more than patient in this matter.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:08 pm
I had replied to your email message, I guess it does not get sent out unless its a PM on here? I cannot complete the trade at this time, as I am in need of funds, that is why everything is now for sale. I had been without internet a few months and was not on. However much I would like to get those models from you, I am in need of money, not models. If you want to post in the backout section I am all for that and will acknowledge the post and say it is true.
Dakkar98 wrote:Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:25 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:I had replied to your email message, I guess it does not get sent out unless its a PM on here? I cannot complete the trade at this time, as I am in need of funds, that is why everything is now for sale. I had been without internet a few months and was not on. However much I would like to get those models from you, I am in need of money, not models. If you want to post in the backout section I am all for that and will acknowledge the post and say it is true.
You were going to send me the following items:
Whole Models:
1 Zoanthrope
3-4 Warlocks with one seer (assembled)
Vyper (NiB)

Bits:
Tau
many backpacks
many pulse rifles
a few crisis suit weapons and attatchments

Nids
all the rippers (regular and ones with spinefists)
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs (all of the items)
bunch of different stealer heads (10 of each special one basically)

If we could work most or all of these items into a sale, we might still be able to avoid the whole backout thing.

My wife and I are expecting a baby any day now, so money is a little tight, but I think we can still make a fair deal.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:56 pm
okay, shoot me an offer then, sort of based on what the lots at, or would you be willing to buy a whole lot off me?
Dakkar98 wrote:Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:36 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:okay, shoot me an offer then, sort of based on what the lots at, or would you be willing to buy a whole lot off me?
As I said I am little tight on money.
In the interest of avoiding the backout report, I would only be interested in purchasing some or all of the specific items that we had previously discussed. I am not interested in purchasing any large lots. From what I can tell, the items we were dealing for are not listed in the lots.


These were the items that I was specifically interested in from our previous deal:
Bits:
Tau
many backpacks
many pulse rifles
a few crisis suit weapons and attatchments

Nids
spinefist rippers
bunch of extra fex heads and biomorphs (all of the items)
bunch of different stealer heads (10 of each special one basically)

Whole Models:
1 Zoanthrope

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:14 am
ah yes, the zoan is gone, gave it to a friend along with my nid dex. I still have a vyper and think it was the locks that you said before? All the bits I have too
Dakkar98 wrote:Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:31 am
PUFNSTUF wrote:ah yes, the zoan is gone, gave it to a friend along with my nid dex. I still have a vyper and think it was the locks that you said before? All the bits I have too
Since we had made the original deal I have don a good number of other deals, so If you would like to leave the vyper and the warlocks as psrt of the large Eldar Lot that's fine. The Tau bits and the Tyranid bits are what I was most interested in all along.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:31 pm
ah okay, i still have all those. How much are you thinking for them?
Dakkar98 wrote:Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:22 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:ah okay, i still have all those. How much are you thinking for them?
These are the rough numbers that I have from your previous messages:
Tau:
25-30 backpacks. Also squad leader arms with 4-5 sprues of 2 guns without hands on them and 2 of the shorter guns with arms attatched.

crisis weapons basically 2 of each with some extra parts here or there.

'Nids:
10 of each stealer head

10 spinefist rippers

all fex heads except regular ones from 3 sprues, all biomorphs minus 2 barbed strangler, 2 Venom cannons, and 2 devourerors.
This a rough guess based on the rough numbers that I got from you.
What do you say to $40.00 plus shipping?

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:01 pm
That should work. Do you want me to clip them off the srpues? (nid ones are, most Tau are not) Would be able to put them in a smaller shipping bag / box that way.
Dakkar98 wrote:Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:23 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:That should work. Do you want me to clip them off the srpues? (nid ones are, most Tau are not) Would be able to put them in a smaller shipping bag / box that way.
Clipping them off is fine.

If you have any of the plastic Space Marine Studded Shoulder Pads or Mk6 Heads.
I'll take them as well. Let me know how many, if any, that you have.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:16 pm
I'll have a look but don't think so...

I have an exam thursday night, so will only be able to clip everything this weekend if that is fine?
Dakkar98 wrote:Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:17 pm
PUFNSTUF wrote:I'll have a look but don't think so...

I have an exam thursday night, so will only be able to clip everything this weekend if that is fine?
That's fine. My wife and I are supposed to go to the hospital tonight so our son can be born (they are supposed to induce her), but they currently don't have a bed available. Drop me a line once you have checked on the other bits and after you get them clipped and I'll send you my address.

LMK,
PUFNSTUF wrote:Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:44 pm
okay, clipped everything off the sprue, there was 9 sprues for firewarriors that had 4 nades, 4 backpacks, 3-4 guns, 2 sarg hands, sarg head,m bonding knife on all of them, some had sensor spines. Their were 4 or so crisis sprues that had meltas, some had plasma guns, then other random bits. All the nid heads and rippers were cut off too. No Sm heads or shoulder pads were found.

Was your child born? female, male? Hope thier were no complications!
My response to his last message set in my outbox until mid 2009 and then I finally deleted it.

Good luck to him and anyone attempting trades with him!