To get to the point,
A fellow bartertown member sent me some free bits without asking anything in return. Meaning, no trade or sale was made, but the guy was still nice enough because he believed that bits "should be shared by the community". I want to post him a good reference, but I don't know if I can it not. Any answers or advice to show him how I'm thankful is appreciated.
Thank you,
Johnny
Posting a reference for a gift
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- Garlicson2 ( 84 )
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Posting a reference for a gift
Couple of things to know when trading with me:
1. Lower rating ships/trades first (Me included), unless your ad states vice versa, NO EXCEPTIONS.
2. The price on my lot does NOT include shipping, unless my ad says otherwise.
3. I'm not good with shipping at the same time, so if our rating is the same, we should discuss who'll send first.
Other than that, I'm a easy going trader, so don't hesitate to make any offer, worst I can say is "No thanks".
1. Lower rating ships/trades first (Me included), unless your ad states vice versa, NO EXCEPTIONS.
2. The price on my lot does NOT include shipping, unless my ad says otherwise.
3. I'm not good with shipping at the same time, so if our rating is the same, we should discuss who'll send first.
Other than that, I'm a easy going trader, so don't hesitate to make any offer, worst I can say is "No thanks".
- starslayer ( 560 )
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Re: Posting a reference for a gift
I do not know the official answer, but if you would leave such a reference, put an explanation that it was a gift of bits, not a sale/trade.
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Re: Posting a reference for a gift
We frown on references in these cases, but do not rule them out, entirely.
It HAS happened in the past that a new member set out a bunch of meaningless bits to people for "just a positive reference," then used those built up references to scam people. It's been a number of years, but it's happened.
Maybe he just tried to, but was unsuccessful... the minutia are lost to me.
If you WANT to leave the guy a ref, it's up to you, but I'd advise you to use good judgement.
Eric
It HAS happened in the past that a new member set out a bunch of meaningless bits to people for "just a positive reference," then used those built up references to scam people. It's been a number of years, but it's happened.
Maybe he just tried to, but was unsuccessful... the minutia are lost to me.
If you WANT to leave the guy a ref, it's up to you, but I'd advise you to use good judgement.
Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Re: Posting a reference for a gift
What if that member is actually a normal contributor to the site and just thinks bits should be shared amongst each other? Like if it was you MM and you sent me some much needed bits and didn't want anything in return I would want to leave you some sort of reference. There was still a trade agreement, no? You still were required to send me the bits and had you not, would it not warrant a backout?
But I agree, good judgement would be key when leaving references when no actual "trade value" was negotiated.
But I agree, good judgement would be key when leaving references when no actual "trade value" was negotiated.
~Ryan~
I'm like superman, but without the super.
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I'm like superman, but without the super.
The rules for Bartertown can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=45470
Helpful guide for sending packages to Canada: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=123125
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Re: Posting a reference for a gift
3eland wrote:What if that member is actually a normal contributor to the site and just thinks bits should be shared amongst each other? Like if it was you MM and you sent me some much needed bits and didn't want anything in return I would want to leave you some sort of reference. There was still a trade agreement, no? You still were required to send me the bits and had you not, would it not warrant a backout?
But I agree, good judgement would be key when leaving references when no actual "trade value" was negotiated.
Good question/bad example.
When *I* gift bits, etc., I specifically request NOT to receive a reference.
Sometimes, they still leave one, though. LOL
Your example, though, is why I said to use your best judgement. Someone like yourself, for example, would be a no-brainer for me. I'd leave a ref. On the other hand, someone with no or very few ref's hasn't established himself and, while he's likely NOT a p.o.s. scammer, I won't take the risk.
I hope that clarifies.
Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Re: Posting a reference for a gift
Very well said Patriarch Eric, there was a reason why I liked you.MagickalMemories wrote:3eland wrote:What if that member is actually a normal contributor to the site and just thinks bits should be shared amongst each other? Like if it was you MM and you sent me some much needed bits and didn't want anything in return I would want to leave you some sort of reference. There was still a trade agreement, no? You still were required to send me the bits and had you not, would it not warrant a backout?
But I agree, good judgement would be key when leaving references when no actual "trade value" was negotiated.
Good question/bad example.
When *I* gift bits, etc., I specifically request NOT to receive a reference.
Sometimes, they still leave one, though. LOL
Your example, though, is why I said to use your best judgement. Someone like yourself, for example, would be a no-brainer for me. I'd leave a ref. On the other hand, someone with no or very few ref's hasn't established himself and, while he's likely NOT a p.o.s. scammer, I won't take the risk.
I hope that clarifies.
Eric
~Ryan~
I'm like superman, but without the super.
The rules for Bartertown can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=45470
Helpful guide for sending packages to Canada: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=123125
I'm like superman, but without the super.
The rules for Bartertown can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=45470
Helpful guide for sending packages to Canada: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=123125
- Garlicson2 ( 84 )
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Re: Posting a reference for a gift
Alright, thanks for the clarification guys. I'm gonna go ahead and think it over before I decide to leave him a reference. Hopefully those who read this post also found this useful.
Happy Holiday everyone!
Johnny
Happy Holiday everyone!
Johnny
Couple of things to know when trading with me:
1. Lower rating ships/trades first (Me included), unless your ad states vice versa, NO EXCEPTIONS.
2. The price on my lot does NOT include shipping, unless my ad says otherwise.
3. I'm not good with shipping at the same time, so if our rating is the same, we should discuss who'll send first.
Other than that, I'm a easy going trader, so don't hesitate to make any offer, worst I can say is "No thanks".
1. Lower rating ships/trades first (Me included), unless your ad states vice versa, NO EXCEPTIONS.
2. The price on my lot does NOT include shipping, unless my ad says otherwise.
3. I'm not good with shipping at the same time, so if our rating is the same, we should discuss who'll send first.
Other than that, I'm a easy going trader, so don't hesitate to make any offer, worst I can say is "No thanks".
Re: Posting a reference for a gift
Instead of a reference, you could always post in the good traders forum instead. This seems like a great time to use that subforum.