BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note - Resolved

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BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note - Resolved

Post by thurston » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:30 pm

This is a BTR for Fenrisnorth. Trade message is detailed below. Breaksdown to I paid $205 to Mr. Van Note to acquire and then paint models for me. It has now been in excess of 45 days with no news of shipping, no pictures, or any other proof he has followed through. I hate to do this, but I suppose this is the alternative I am left with.

Message traffic:

Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:18 pm
by Fenrisnorth

So, I don't have any Skorne models, but I can paint some if you like. I am a very good and speedy painter. If you paypal me the money, I can buy them off of discountgamesstore.com and paint them in a week, to your exact specifications.

I'd ask for cost+25% for painting and S&H

If that's something you would be interested in, I can send examples of my painting,


Subject: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)

thurston wrote:
Hi BT -

Looking to start playing Warmachine/Hordes. I'm not a painter just a gamer. As such I'm looking to get some table top quality or better Skorne models, though I could be persuaded into a different faction if you have a beautiful army that you want to sell for a decent price. Don't need all my wants but I'd like enough to make a decent 35 pt list at least.

Models I'd like:

Makeda 3
Xerxis
PMorghoul

Bronzeback
Gladiator
Savage
Brute
Malik Karn
Archidon
Krea
Shaman

Cataphract units
Beast Handlers
Task Master
Gatorman Posse
Marketh

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:50 pm
by thurston

If I could see some of your work that would be great!

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:41 am
by Fenrisnorth

http://imgur.com/a/Lhvtu

http://imgur.com/a/bqrfT

http://imgur.com/a/vlOJx

http://imgur.com/a/nuTSF

I've got a few more I'll send you in a bit

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:12 pm
by thurston

Are you comfortable painting Farrow instead? Please let me know.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:34 am
by Fenrisnorth

Absolutely.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:35 am
by thurston

Yes I think so. I was able to trade some old Warhammer models for Carver Arkadius and some NiB War Hogs and a Road Hog.

So what I still need would be:

2x Slaughterhouses
2x Bone Grinders (max)
4x Razorboars
2x Gorax
2x Gun Boars
Targ

Can you tell how much that would cost me? Thanks.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:26 am
by Fenrisnorth

270$

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:49 pm
by Fenrisnorth

PayPal is : evannote@gmail.com

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:57 pm
by thurston

Great thanks. I'm going to scale back a bit for this first purchase. So for now, I'd like 2 min units of brigands, gun boar, 2x razorboar, 2x slaughterhouses, and perhaps Saxon Orrik. Also, would you be open to painting the Road and War Hogs I just traded for? If so, I'll pay extra.

Does what I have listed work for under $200? Thank you!

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:54 pm
by Fenrisnorth

I can absolutely paint the models you just traded for.

Your totals would be this:

2x Brigands box @ 24.49 ea: 48.99
1x gun boar blister @ 11.19 : 11.99
2x slaughterhousers box @ 31.49 : 62.99
1x razorboars blister @ 13.99 :13.99
1x Saxon orrik @ 6.99: 6.99

Total merch: 163.74

Painting total : 40.93

Total: 204.67

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:34 pm
by thurston

Payment incoming.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:38 am
by thurston

Can you send me a copy of the receipt when you order the models or update me when you receive them? Thanks!

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:56 am
by thurston

Hey can you acknowledge that you received any of my messages and the payment? Thanks!

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:39 pm
by Fenrisnorth

Yep, I've put the order in with discountgamesstore.com, and am awaiting their quote.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:27 am
by Fenrisnorth

The piggies should be getting here this afternoon. What did you want as a color scheme?

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:05 am
by thurston

I would just like them painted up the way they look on PP's website, with a light brown front arc on the base. Thanks! I should be getting in the other pigs I got in trade soon. Once I see their condition, are you still open to me comissioning you to paint the rest in the same style?

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:31 pm
by Fenrisnorth

Hey, giving you an update on the piggies. We are built and the skin has been painted. I'd be a little further along, but we had two people quit recently.

I'm hoping to get the metal and leather done tomorrow morning.

Further updates as events warrant.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:57 am
by thurston

Awesome! Thank you!

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:38 pm
by thurston

How goes the it? Just checking in. If you have any pictures I'd love a sneak peek.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:54 pm
by thurston

Hey! How's it going? Any chance I'll be able to the army by Saturday? My store is hosting an exigence event and I had hoped to participate.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:47 pm
by thurston

Hey,

It's been over two weeks. Would you mind sending over pictures at least? Email is r*************r13@gmail.com.

Thanks.


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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:30 pm
by thurston

Hey man, been almost 3 weeks since I heard anything. What's up? Don't want to have to do it, but I'm considering filing a complaint with PayPal and a bad trader report. 200$ might not be a lot to you, but it's a good deal of money to me, so I expect better comes than this.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:52 am
by Fenrisnorth

Very sorry, I took a swing at my friend's abusive boyfriend and spent a few weeks behind bars. I should have your pigs in the mail on Saturday.

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:11 am
by thurston

Wow, that's about as unexpected and completely acceptable an answer as I've ever heard. Thank you for letting me know.


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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:11 am
by thurston

Hey man, any chance you got the pigs mailed? Excited to see them!

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Re: H: $$$ W: Painted Hordes Army (Pref Skorne)
Sent: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:44 am
by thurston

Hey Eric,

What's going on? I am assuming you didn't ship on Saturday as I never heard from you. Please let me know when I can expect a tracking number. Here's my address in case you needs it again.

Richard Palmer
12204 S 73rd Ave
Papillion, NE 68046

I will be filing with Paypal soon because I believe I only have 60 days to file. Would like to avoid this. Thanks!

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So i am unable to file with paypal because those 60 days are actually only 45. so i've waited too long. Hoping this is just the case of bad communication as others have seen, but i'm not holding my breath. I don't have facebook, so any help would be appreciated. thanks!
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Re: BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note

Post by MagickalMemories » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:31 pm

Try reaching him via Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/eric.vannote

Here is his listed employer:
https://www.facebook.com/TesoroCorporat ... 9479102855

You could always inform him that you intend to try to reach him through management at his employer, if he does not respond to you via Facebook, BTown PM or email.

Also, check your PayPal payment. His address should be there.
Lastly, IMMEDIATELY file for a refund via PayPal.


Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.

Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.


I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell

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Re: BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note

Post by thurston » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:50 pm

So I contacted Eric today by calling his work. He actually answered himself. We talked for a minute and promised to get the models in the mail Monday, even though he hasn't completed painting them. I plan to follow up to ensure this happens.
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Re: BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note

Post by MagickalMemories » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:22 pm

At this time, I would like to point out that this is one of the reasons I ALWAYS advise that people not do business with non-advertising painters on Bartertown. With Advertisers, we require them to prove that they're reputable. "Joe Trader" has not gone through the same vetting process as someone who we allow to advertise here.
Although one or 2 might get through the cracks every now and then, the overwhelming majority of transactions with them are very positive.

Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.

Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.


I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell

Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.

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Re: BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note

Post by MagickalMemories » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:45 pm

Update?
Lower rating? You ship first.

Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.


I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell

Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.

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Re: BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note

Post by thurston » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:47 am

Called again yesterday and spoke with his boss. Long story short, she agreed to pass along my message and assured me that Eric probably had a good reason, that he's a good worker, but she couldn't do anything besides send along the message. Today I got an eCheck from PayPal from him for the full amount. Once it clears in 3 days, I will update that this has been resolved.
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Re: BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note

Post by MagickalMemories » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:53 am

Well, it's a shame you hit the point where you felt that was necessary. Kudos to you for having the balls to follow through, though. Too many times, I've seen people just take the loss, rather than play hardball.

Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.

Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.


I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell

Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.

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Re: BTR- Fenrisnorth aka E Van Note

Post by thurston » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:02 pm

Check cleared and this is now settled. Thanks.
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