First off, I will say that I am partially to blame, because I was not thorough in my investigation of these products, so I'm going to swallow my pride here a bit. However; I feel the seller was purposefully deceptive in an attempt to "get one over" on someone with low references, so I feel it's only proper to warn Bartertown and make this BTR thread. CJM04002 and I came to an agreement for 50 hammerers/Longbeards, 1 cannon and 3 zeppelins. After I paid him, he messaged me admitting that the cannon had been assembled. I inquired about the 50 Hammerers/Longbeards, which he then admitted that 10 of them had been assembled into Hammerers, but that the other 40 were NoS. He never made any mention of the Zeppelins. Which, as of today, arrived to my doorstep. When I opened the box, it was without a doubt disgusting. The Zeppelins had clearly been put together with Plastic Cement and then torn or cut apart. Many of the pieces are broken and are probably not repairable without further damaging the product.
Here is our PM History:
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:21 am
by cjm04002
Hello,
I am also dissatisfied with what age of sigmar appears to be. I have a large dwarf collection new on sprue or bare plastic assembled. Warriors with great weapons, newest hammerers/longbeards, cannon, grudge thrower, organ gun, crossbows and miners. ANy interest in picking up the lot?
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:28 am
by Admiral Underpants
I suppose it depends how much you're looking for and how many models you have for sale. I'm not looking to break the bank, since 8th edition probably wont be used competitively anymore.
I'm really only interested in the following models you have:
- Cannon
- Grudge Thrower
- Hammerers
I could be persuaded to buy the whole lot, but the price has to be right.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:53 am
by cjm04002
This is what I have for dwarves
Dwarves
1 Cannon
1 Grudge Thrower
1 Organ Gun
20 Miners
2 Plastic runesmiths
70 Hammerers/Longbeards newest edition
20 Dwarven warriors with great weapons
16 Dwarf Crossbowmen
Titan Forge:
3 Dwarf Zeppelins
1 Dwarf Lord on Shield Bearers
1 Dward Battle Standard Bearer
1 Dwarf Engineer
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:06 am
by Admiral Underpants
That entire lot seems to be worth far more than I'm looking to pay. With that said, I'll entertain ideas. What are you looking to get for the lot?
If not the entire lot, what would you like for the Hammerers/Longbeards, Cannon and 3 Zepplins. I may be interested in the Dwarf Lord on Shield Bearers from Titan Forge, but I've never seen the sculpt to know.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:23 am
by cjm04002
If you buy the lot I could do 50% of retail.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:38 am
by Admiral Underpants
There's no way I can purchase the whole lot... That's just way above my budget, I'm sorry.
If you're willing to part some of it out, I'll gladly purchase enough to make it worth your while.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:24 pm
by cjm04002
How much were you looking to pick up?
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:33 pm
by Admiral Underpants
Zeppelins, cannons and probably 40 Hammerers.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:10 pm
by cjm04002
That sounds pretty good. I figure I won't be able to sell off the entire lot anyways. Could you do $150? I'll look for the 20mm bases for the dwarfs. I'm pretty sure I have them.
$12 for the cannon
$100 for 40 hammerers/longbeards newest models
$32 for the zeppelins. There are 3 zeppelins.
Plus $6 for shipping.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:20 am
by Admiral Underpants
Yeah, $150 is fine. Shoot me your Paypal information, and I'll try to get payment out today. I'm stuck at work a little late today, so if I don't get it today, I'll get it before the weekend.
I have a friend that's getting into putting together miniatures. I'll forward him your PMs and see if I can't convince him to purchase some. He's really into the Dwarf lore stuff, too, so hopefully he'll bite.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:22 am
by Admiral Underpants
Can I actually get that following:
50 Hammerers/Longbeards NoS
Cannon
3 zepplins
Instead of $150, I'll gladly pay $175 or $180 if the shipping is more.
Sorry for the last minute change. An old friend of mine was able to provide me with 30 Hammerers from his set, since he's moving to Age of Sigmar. So I'd like to get 50 from you, to be able to make 40 Hammerers total and then 40 Longbeards. Let me know, thanks!
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:51 am
by cjm04002
Hello,
Yes I can do that. $180 sounds fine now with the shipping. My paypal is cjm04002@hotmail.com. Please send it as a gift.
What is your address?
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:12 am
by Admiral Underpants
My address is:
Anthony Servello
XXX
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:43 am
by Admiral Underpants
There is a mistake with the zip code, I'm not sure why I wrote xxxxx.
My corrected address is:
Anthony Servello
xxxx
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:48 am
by cjm04002
I have them all packed up. Found the bases by the way. I'll send it out as soon as I receive payment. Remember, send it as a gift.
Thanks.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:40 pm
by Admiral Underpants
I'll be out of work at about 2pm EST... At that time I'll swing by the bank and deposit my check (Got paid today, woo!). You should see payment shortly after. I'll send you a message on here for confirmation and we'll go from there.
Thanks for the quick responses, this has been a pleasant transaction.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:38 pm
by Admiral Underpants
Hello,
The payment was sent, at 2:36 pm EST, to cjm04002@hotmail.com (Christopher Murphy). Please let me know when you ship and any tracking number(s) associated with the package.
Thank you,
Tony
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:18 am
by cjm04002
Hello,
I will be sending out your order today. However, I looked over the my post and forgot to mention that the cannon is assembled but is bare plastic and comes with the crew. Is that going to be all right. It is the newest edition of course.
Thanks
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:10 am
by Admiral Underpants
Yeah, I don't see that as an issue. As long as it's bare and has the crew I'm okay with it.
Are the Hammerers/Longbeards NoS at least? I assumed since you labeled them Hammerers/longbeards that you meant they are new on sprue and able to be made into either.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:19 am
by cjm04002
Again i apologize 40 of hem are nos 10 are bare plastic assembled as hammerers. Newest rdition of course. Again sorry for this I'm usually so careful with my posts. I'm glad I caught this before I sent it.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:48 am
by cjm04002
Sorry to bother you again but I just want to check to see if you still want to go through with the deal. 40 hammerers/longbeards are the newest edition new on the sprue. The cannon is assembled on a base with the crew on the base and 10 hammerers are already assembled. The cannon and the hammerers are bare plastic. If you are uncomfortable with this I can issue a full refund of course. I feel terrible that I wasn't more specific in my posting. I have a pretty good reputation on barter town and I want to keep it that way so I want to make sure you are satisfied with the deal.
Let me know.
Thank you.
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:43 am
by Admiral Underpants
Hello,
Sorry for the late response, I've been away for the 4th of July festivities. I'm more than okay with that. I was just more curious then anything, so I know what to expect. Go ahead and ship them. I'll leave a positive reference upon retrieval of the items.
Thanks for letting me know!
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:54 am
by cjm04002
Good Morning,
No problem. I will send them out later today.
Thanks
Re: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:23 pm
by cjm04002
Hello,
Just sent the package through the USPS. Your tracking number is
9505510417765187094428
We shared a few PMs about an Upcoming Grand Tournament, that I don't wish to slander by linking them to this thread, so I've left those PMs out. They have nothing to do with this BTR report. Then this final PMRe: W: Dwarfs H: Paypal
Sent: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:23 pm
by cjm04002
Hello,
Just sent the package through the USPS. Your tracking number is
9505510417765187094428
I felt I was more than reasonable with him. I was accepting that mistakes happen, and 10x Hammerers being assembled really isn't worth getting all upset over when I already planned on making 10. However; when he had numerous chances to admit the quality of the Zeppelins, he clearly avoided them completely in an attempt to save his own butt... I'll be posting pictures momentarily.Sent: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:48 pm
by Admiral Underpants
I received the package today... All I'm going to say is that I'm extremely disappointed in you.
These zeppelins are completely trashed. It looks as though they were put together with plastic cement and then ripped or cut apart. They are in no way repairable in my eyes, without butchering the model further. Luckily for you, the Hammerers/longbeards and the cannon are in good condition.
I suppose it's my fault, for not requesting pictures. I assumed that after I asked about the NoS stuff, you'd have explained that the Zeppelins were in rough shape. I probably would have still purchased them, just to be a nice guy and try to make it work, but your deceiving way of trading is absolutely disappointing. I will never do another trade with you.
It's a damn shame...