BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W)ski

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BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W)ski

Post by Bonzii » Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:25 pm

Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wrobleski, Sara Wroblewski
Truthgrits messages are in green, and mine (bonzii) are in blue, with message breaks in black XX's, I hope this is easy to read and not too hard on the retinas!



Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:40 am
by truthgrit
I have Cryx I can swap with you, I am interested in 
Sevy2
Harbinger 
Blessing of Vengeance
Castigator not assembled 
Crusader/Vanquisher 
Choir 
Zealots + UA
Temple Flameguard +UA 
Durant 
Vilmon 
Bastion Senschall 

I have this stuff available, most is New in box

Asphy1/2 
Denny 1/2
Bane Knights x10
Bane Thralls(plastic)+UA
Bile Thralls x10
Cankerworm
Deathjack 
Bloodwitches +UA 


Subject: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army swap
Bonzii wrote:Hello everyone!
I am looking for an army swap, my preference would be to trade for a Cryx army, but open to other options from the warmachine or hordes armies.

MSRP value totals up to 1417 USD. 



Menoth Models:

Warcasters:
( 12) Feora, Priestess of the Flame Painted
( 18) Feora, Protector of the Flame Painted
( 13) Grand Scrutator Severius Painted
( 24) Hierarch Severius Painted
( 12) High Allegiant Amon Ad-Raza Primer
( 12) High Exemplar Kreoss Not Assembled
( 38) The Harbinger of Menoth Not Assembled
( 15) The High Reclaimer Painted
( 15) Thyra Flame of Sorrow Basecoated

Warjacks:
(135) Judicator Painted

( 30) Blessing of Vengeance Painted
( 17) Dervish Primer ~ Altered running stance
( 17) Devout Primer ~ Altered on guard stance
( 19) Redeemer Painted
( 19) Redeemer Painted
( 19) Repenter Primer
( 19) Repenter Not Assembled
( 19) Revenger Not Assembled
( 19) Vigilant Not Assembled

( 35) Avatar of Menoth Basecoated (Pearl, start of a mother of pearl paint job)
( 49) Blood of Martyrs Painted (empty base)
( 35) Castigator/Reckoner/Sanctifier Painted & Magnetized
( 35) Castigator/Reckoner/Sanctifier Painted & Magnetized
( 35) Castigator/Reckoner/Sanctifier Not Assembled
( 45) Crusader/Scourge of Heresy/Templar/Vanquisher Painted & Magnetized, Altered real chain.
( 35) Crusader/Templar/Vanquisher Painted & Magnetized, Altered real chain.
( 35) Crusader/Vanquisher Not Assembled
( 35) Crusader Not Assembled

Units and Unit attachments:
( 12) Attendant Priest UA Primer
( 32) Choir of Menoth Primer
( 32) Choir of Menoth Primer
( 33) Daughters of the Flame Painted
( 45) Exemplar Cinerators Not Assembled
( 50) Exemplar Errants (Plastic) Painted
( 25) Exemplar Errants Officer & Standard UA Painted
( 50) Holy Zealots Primer
( 12) Monolith Bearer UA Primer
( 50) Temple Flameguard (plastic) Primer
( 20) Temple Flameguard Officer & Standard UA Primer
( 27) Visgoth Juviah Rhoven & Honor Guard Primer (started Painting)

Solos:
( 10) Allegiant of the Order of the Fist Painted
( 25) Exemplar Bastion Seneschal Primer
( 15) Exemplar Errant Seneshal Painted
( 10) Hierophant Primer
( 15)High Paladin Dartan Vilmon Primer
( 20) Initiate Tristan Durant (Kickstarter one) Primer
( 15) Knights Exemplar Seneschal Primer
( 13) Nicia, Tear of Vengeance Painted
( 12) Paladin of the Order of the Wall (Reg) Primer
( 12) Paladin of the Order of the Wall (Variant) Primer
( 10) Reclaimer Primer / Bit of Basecoating
( 17) The Covenant of Menoth Partially Painted
( 8 ) Vassal Mechanik Painted
( 8 ) Vassal of Menoth Painted
( 8 ) Vassal of Menoth Painted
( 20) Wrack Painted and Altered with Real Chain

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:58 pm
by Bonzii
Yup interested in all cryx items you have listed, and all models you have listed are available.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:36 pm
by Bonzii
Did the math on the lists of stuff you are interested in and what your offering, the list of menoth models you are requesting totals up to $386. The cryx stuff you have totals up to $412 appox, it could change a bit depending which versions of Gaspy and Denny you have.
So what would you like to add?
Any questions?

Only two of the models you are after are painted, Sevvy and Blessing of vengeance

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:07 pm
by truthgrit
That's close enough; we can call it even.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:32 pm
by Bonzii
Okay if that's fine with you I can't really complain. 
Which unit of choir would you prefer, the one unit has no tabs that fit in the slots of the base because I was putting them on stained glass bases and removed them to do that. In the other unit one of the grunts came with the menofix from the top of his staff broken off, I have the Menofix to go on the staff and would just pin it on for you but currently I am waiting for more tiny drill bits to arrive and don't have one sharp enough to do that fine of work. I can also just swap that one grunt with the broken staff out of the unit for his equivalent from the other unit.

Whats your shipping address? I can box this up tonight and send it out tomorrow for you.
My shipping address:

Steven K
(address redacted)



Much Thanks!
Steven

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:16 pm
by truthgrit
That sounds fine. Either unit is fine, it's not a big deal. I'd prefer the one without the broken Menofix, but I can fix it if need be. Whatever's easier for you. 


Sara Wrobleski 
203 S. 64th St. 
Milwaukee WI 53214

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:34 pm
by Bonzii
Managed to file a drill bit back to working order. So pinning the menofix on and boxing everything up tonight. Will mail it off in the morning.

Thanks
Steven

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:13 pm
by Bonzii
Package has been shipped. It is supposed to arrive on Thursday apparently, please let me know when it gets there.
Tracking number: EMO63658876CA

For cross border shipping of miniatures I was advised by a friend who trades armies a lot to declare it as a gift, and for the description put down tabletop miniature toys. 
Apparently words like collectibles, art etc really makes customs dig through stuff.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:10 am
by truthgrit
yea, it makes it a good deal cheaper that way

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:57 pm
by truthgrit
Hey brother, just wondering if you had some way of letting me know how you shipped? It didn't show up today.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:14 pm
by Bonzii
Yes I guess it's difficult to use a tracking number without knowing which company lol.
USPS or canada posts site can track it. I sent it with canada post and they give it to usps. 

Checking it now, currently it says "Your item is being processed by United States customs."

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:21 pm
by truthgrit
huh, interesting. I tried to use the number twice but it came back blank. 
"EMO63658876CA" 

Correct?

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:43 pm
by Bonzii
link to the page that I see when I type in the number.

https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmA ... 63658876CA

the tracking number

EM063658876CA

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:50 pm
by Bonzii
EM063658876CA

EM(zero)63658876CA Stupid font zero and letter O look the same.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:28 am
by truthgrit
Huh! cool, thanks for the update. I was wondering why it was coming up blank for me

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:42 pm
by Bonzii
Everything arrived in good shape I hope?

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:10 pm
by truthgrit
I haven't gone through it yet. Just arrived.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:46 am
by truthgrit
All good, will be out tomorrow

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:43 am
by truthgrit
Hey man, not to be an asshat or anything here, but there are quite a few problems now that I'm individually going through the models. 
The way you packed them has lead to many of the models with spears/halbreds and weapons of that nature to be so far bent than when i've moved them back they are at the point of breaking.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:56 am
by Bonzii
Please send me pictures of models, the clamshells and foam they were in, and especially the boxes.
Spears and staves were all nice and straight when I shipped them. I am wondering if customs went through everything and then badly repacked it.

b(email redacted)

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:29 pm
by truthgrit
Sure, I'll take care of it tonight.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:49 pm
by Bonzii
I am wondering if you have already opened all the clamshells that they were sent in? since they are transparent any pics of a closed one that you haven't opened yet would tell me if customs repacked it or not.

Whats the tracking number for the cryx stuff being sent to me?

Thanks

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:58 pm
by truthgrit
It hasn't been sent yet man. Sorry, until I can figure out what happened here, we kind of have to work that out first. 
Yes I only opened one clam, it seems like every spear was bent to fit in the clams. 
The Bastion Sench's spear weapon thing, complete is cracked at the upper half.... I'd have to cut it and replace with a rod. 
Let me get you some pics.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:10 pm
by Bonzii
on monday you said it would be out tomorrow, its now thursday night. I need these items in time for a tournament that requires full paint, so I need them to be sent asap, I thought they were already in the mail.

Lets resolve this tonight so that the cryx stuff is in the mail in the morning. The menoth stuff was shipped out quickly, I expect the same, that is only fair.

Please keep in mind that I know how to pack items into a container to be shipped, I wouldn't be stupid enough to bend the spears by forcing them together. As there is insurance on the package I would need to see if anything can be claimed against that or not. Likely not as customs is probably to blame, and getting them to admit or pay for fault will probably be impossible. The stuff you send north can also have this problem.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:45 am
by truthgrit
Usually on the site, it's about 2-5ish days before reshipping, within a week is the common situation, especially when the amount is a bit bigger as is this. 
I received them on Saturday but we were away from the office until Sunday night. I didn't get a chance to look through them. We were closed down 
Tuesday, so I got a chance to go through the stuff received over the weekend. I saw yours had arrived and the package had not looked damaged, so I said 'all good'. 
Tuesday I got a chance to open the boxes up and it was a bit strange to me everything came in a couple clam shells. When I opened the first one, noticed ALOT of the 
longer weapons were bent pretty far, so I wanted to see what I could do with it before I complained. When I tried to start bending the Bastions spear like weapon it got 
so loose that it's barely hanging on there now. That's when I messaged you. 
My pad was low on a charge, but I'll be sending you pics now.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:51 am
by truthgrit
Sent, and now if you look at each of the pics, EACH of them has weapons that were bent to the point of cracking.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:14 am
by truthgrit
Sent, and now if you look at each of the pics, EACH of them has weapons that were bent to the point of cracking.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:59 am
by Bonzii
Okay so it's only 3 models? that have bent weapons, this is easily fixable even if I have to bits order you pieces. 

I sent out 2 packages at the same time, yours spent twice as long in customs as the other one. So that likely means customs opened stuff, the models you have sent pictures of were held in place by foam bits and the clams were taped shut.

Is there any other models or just BoV, Tristan, & senschal?

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:03 pm
by truthgrit
I only opened the one package as you can see. 
The TFG have a few models as well that are awfully bent as well. 
I can see in the clam shell there are at least 2 that are bent to the spot of breaking. 
It was pretty well sealed when it arrived, so I'm unsure if customs opened then.
It seemed like they were bent so they would fit.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:07 pm
by Bonzii
Do you think I would bend something to "make it fit"?

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:02 pm
by Bonzii
I would really like to get this resolved, I know we can come up with a solution that will make both of us happy. To do this, I need you to go through everything, and figure out anything that was damaged. I would like this to be done without delays, there is insurance on the package and if everything is assessed quickly I can most likely put in a claim for anything I need to order to make this right, the longer that takes the harder it is to file a claim.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:15 pm
by Bonzii
Oh and I am absolutely sure that customs opened them up and repacked them badly. I sent out two packages at the same time, one to you in Milwaukee, and the other one to a guy by Chicago. So two very close destinations. According to USPS tracking your package spent twice as long going through customs as his did, which means it was randomly selected to be inspected. 

Tracking says the package he sent me is clearing customs in Calgary right now, so I will probably receive it here in Lethbridge tomorrow or the day after.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:23 pm
by truthgrit
Ok, I will go through everything after work. Im sure we can figure out something. The problem is, we are a reseller group. So we resell a lot of the stuff we get. 
I have a friend who might be able to do some work on them tho.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:00 pm
by Bonzii
A reselling group, thats interesting. Website for that? Curiosity may end up using you guys for something.

Anyways, yes please go through it all. Give me an accurate assessment of everything, and please keep in mind I need the Cryx stuff sent asap so I can get it tournament ready. On that note I am actually looking for more Cryx stuff and I have more Menoth items.

The pic of tristan looks like its going to be fixable.
Same for Blessing of Vengeance, his polearm is bent back pretty far but hopefully that will bend back okay.

The Bastion worries me, are his pauldrons in the box somewhere? cause he had pauldrons when he left here. I can't tell for sure in the pic if his head or left hand is attached or not, as those items were all attached when I put him in the box.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:36 pm
by truthgrit
We only really use ebay, same name as the email.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:01 pm
by Bonzii
What was the condition of the rest of the models I sent?

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:56 pm
by truthgrit
K, going through it a bit more now... 
There are some issues, there are 3 Temple Flame Guard who have majorly bent spears. 1 is completely broke off. 
Almost every single one of the choirs top staff pieces are broke off. 

If customs did do this to your item, they really screwed this package. This is going to be frustrating to replace.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:59 pm
by Bonzii
send pics to my email, the choir looked perfectly fine in the previous pics you sent.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:13 pm
by truthgrit
Are you looking at the same pictures that I sent my friend? I'm looking at them now, and you can only see two of the choir. 

I'm not trying to be pushy here man, but these items were sent very poorly. You packed everything into a few clamshells to save space.
If you would of just wrapped each model, and used a regular box, not a single one of these models would of been bent as it is. 

I realize you are very new to the page, so I'm trying to work with you here, usually I would of already shipped the items 'return to sender'

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:27 pm
by Bonzii
I am trying to resolve this as quickly as possible, but you are not giving me enough info to work with. You are being very slow with opening the packaging and checking the contents. I can't offer any viable solutions until you check everything over, and give me a full accurate assessment with pics of all damaged models.

I have sent other stuff packaged exactly the same, and it all arrived just fine. The packaging I have sent these models to you in is more secure than the models I have so far received from other users. Clamshells are what Privateer Press ships most models in, and those models are in there loose, these were held in place with foam. 

I am feeling like you are trying to take advantage of someone who is a new user on this site.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:39 pm
by truthgrit
When PP ships in a clam shell it's because the model isn't built, so the weapons can't bend. When the model is built and in a few cases shoved into a spot it doesn't fit(Tristen) it can cause this kind of problem. 
Why would I take advantage of you, and in what from my history of three years being here would display that? 

So here's where we are at. The Bastions weapon is completely screwed. He's missing shoulder pads. 
Tristens weapon I think I can bend back. 
Blessing of Menoths spear is cracked. 
One Temple Flame Guard spear can not be fixed
Two I think I can bend back, 1 if I try to bend it back may crack, so possibly two down in that unit. 
My apologies on the Choir, I think three of them are probably going to be fine. 

This is our exact situation right now. The bigger problem is, I will have to repair these as well, it kind of sucks for me. The unbuilt stuff is not a big deal as I know about it prior to.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:06 pm
by Bonzii
okay thank you for giving me the info, now I can try to make an offer of how to fix this.

1) The Bastion.... looks like he was dropped on his head, if the pieces for him are not there then he was dropped on his head outside of the packaging and no one bothered to pick them up. It would probably be best if you just sent him back with the cryx models that you will eventually be sending me. I can replace that bastion by ordering you a new one via Miniature Market or some other means, or we can subtract him from the deal along with something else from your side.

2) The fixable bits... What is your estimate for:
-Pinning on Menofixs
-putting a rod in for the broken spear of Blessing of vengeance
-if Tristan's spear can't be bent back, can you fix it with a rod? or would you prefer to send that one back with the bastion.
-The TFG, bending any resin/plastic bit is best done hot, almost all of the thin things like that I heat up in water and then form back into place. Usually this only needs to be done with NiB items.
-the TFG whose spear can't be fixed,... I would have to see a picture of him to know what to do with that. Could bits order a spear from Privateer, plastic stuff is always really difficult to order from them though. Can this spear be fixed with a rod instead?

3) There are two bonus models in there, they are two Paladins of the Order of the Wall, one reg and one variant. They work together with Vilmon, I included them as a bonus because this trade was in my favor, hopefully they will help to offset this a bit.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:50 am
by Bonzii
okay.
Would you prefer to send me:

Asphy1/2 
Denny 1/2
Bane Knights x10
Cankerworm
Bloodwitches +UA

Blessing of Vengeance
Choir
Temple Flameguard +UA 
Durant 
Bastion Seneschal

This would mean sending back the broken items and the rest of their unit members and I will deal with fixing them.
The following list includes the models that were fine and some of your cryx models that should be easy for you to trade or sell, would keeping these ones be acceptable for you?


Sevy2
Harbinger 
Castigator not assembled 
Crusader/Vanquisher 
Zealots + UA
Vilmon

Deathjack
Bane Thralls(plastic)+UA
Bile Thralls x10

Is this a viable solution?

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:40 pm
by Bonzii
Whats your thoughts on this? What ideas have you got to fix this?

I am trying my best here to make this right, its a very frustrating situation that I would like to resolve as quickly as possible in a way that we can both be happy with.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:56 pm
by truthgrit
I'll get it fixed up and mailed out before Friday.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:00 pm
by Bonzii
truthgrit wrote:I'll get it fixed up and mailed out before Friday.




Can i get some clarification of what you mean by fixed up please?

I just want to be clear about whats happening.

Thanks

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:52 pm
by Bonzii
Can i get some clarification of what you mean by fixed up please?

I just want to be clear about whats happening.

Shipping by tomorrow will be really really appreciated!this is taking far far longer to resolve than it should. Communication is key.

Thanks

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:16 am
by truthgrit
Yeah, sorry I was speaking with a mod here on the page. 

They advised me to ship back the stuff. 

If you have insurance on it, you should be able to file a claim if customs broke up a bunch of the pieces.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:59 am
by Bonzii
So that means you will be shipping back all the menoth items to me?

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:34 pm
by Bonzii
Are you wanting to ship all the menoth models back, or would you prefer to do a partial trade for the undamaged items?

Which Moderator are you talking with?

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:01 pm
by truthgrit
Sorrows is who I spoke with. 
I'm not trying to be an a--hole here or anything, but yeah I'll get it all shipped out here. 
I just don't want there to be any issues in a partial trade or anything of that nature. 
My apologies, and like I said, I would open an insurance claim, because if customs did indeed open everything up and repackage it, they did a very poor job.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:27 pm
by Bonzii
Well personally I would be much happier with a partial trade, than no trade, but I will just take the items back if need be. I can't help that customs damaged them, and I don't expect you to take them in that condition.

What really is annoying is how long this took to resolve, this conclusion could have been reached within 48 hours easily. All it would have taken would have been for you to send me pictures of ALL of the models and the packaging. I have only received the one email with 4 pics in it. You have told me about damage that I apparently won't be seeing until things are finally back at my place for me to look at personally. Also I have done several other trades since we arranged this one, and turned down models that were in the list I was supposed to be receiving from you, this would not have happened if you would have just assessed the situation in the first 2 days.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:32 pm
by truthgrit
I was out of town on initial arrival. 
I believe I said that, or did I not? 
My partner had said the item arrived and it was sealed nicely, so I figured it wouldn't be a problem. 
They then alerted me that there may be some issues with the models the next day. As soon as I got a chance to look them over I noticed it. 
My apologies again for the slow response.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:50 pm
by Bonzii
No you did not say you were out of town then, and USPS says:
"Signed for By: S WROBLESKI // MILWAUKEE, WI 53214 // 12:17 pm"

But regardless of out of town or not communication was horrible from your end, I have tried very hard to fix this. Offering to bits order stuff, get you a replacement Bastion, and/or alter the trade contract so that we would both walk away with some gain from this and not feel it to be a total loss.

If you wish to completely cancel the contract at this time, OR you wish to alter the contract you need to put that in writing and say exactly what you intend to do. Otherwise I am still obligated to our original contract and to provide you with all the models listed from my end of the deal, and likewise you are still obligated to uphold your end of the agreement. Unless we both agree mutually to do something other than that. 

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything here with this either but the following quote does not tell me what you're planning to ship, or how you are planning to ship.
"I'm not trying to be an a--hole here or anything, but yeah I'll get it all shipped out here."

So, please be very detailed in telling me what actions you would like to happen so we can resolve this.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:22 am
by truthgrit
To address each point
-In America anyone at the business can accept packages. I said multiple times my partner accepted it. 

The problem with 'ordering bits for this' is that I still have to then build the army. To be honest, I just don't want to do that. 

I am sending you what I received back, because of the condition it arrived in. I will update you with the return tracking as soon
as the package is in the mail. 


I hope everything is clear.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:55 pm
by Bonzii
Use the cheapest USPS shipping option available. My march deadline to trade for stuff is impossible now, so shipping speed has become irrelevant due to the delay of resolving this. 

Thanks for coming to a conclusion on this matter.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:50 pm
by truthgrit
Hey man, stuff's going out tomorrow morning. Wanted to give you a heads up.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:17 pm
by Bonzii
Thanks for letting me know.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:12 pm
by Bonzii
Just checking that you got my menoth items sent off.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:47 pm
by truthgrit
indeed. They went out

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:01 pm
by truthgrit
Hello there, IDK if we talked, but I have a pretty extensive Cryx list if you have any interest
Subject: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Bonzii wrote:Hey there, I have a fair sized Retribution army that i'm hoping to swap for another faction.
Retails approx. $900, ideally i'd be trading for something the same size. Willing to consider anything non-Cygnar 
with a heavy, heavy preference toward Circle.

Army is approx. 80% painted, a few primed white and some are still bare. Pics and details available on request.

I've got:
Casters
Kaelyssa x 2
Ravyn
Rahn
Issyria
Ossyan
pVyross

Solos
Mage Hunter Assassin x 2
Ghost Sniper x 2
Arcanist
Elara
Houseguard Thane

Untis
Dawnguard Sentinels w/ UA
House Shyeel Battlemages x2
Houseguard Halbardiers w/ UA
Houseguard Riflemen
Mage Hunter Infiltrators w/ Eiryss UA
Mage Hunter Strike Force w/ Commander UA
Stormfall Archers x 2

Light Jacks
Griffon x 2
Chimera x 2

Heavy Jacks
Imperatus 
Discordia (add on kit only)
Hypnos (add on kit only)
Manticore
Manticore/Phoenix/Hydra kit (magnetized for swap)
Manticore/Phoneix/Hydra kit (unassembled)
Sphynx/Daemon/Banshee kit (unassembled)

Colossal
Hyperion

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:13 pm
by Bonzii
Sara

My Menoth items still haven't gotten here. Have you got a tracking number for them? Starting to get a little worried up here.

Steven

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:14 pm
by truthgrit
Yeah, well it's an customs number, I'll throw it your way as soon as I get home.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:15 pm
by Bonzii
That would be great thanks.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:16 pm
by truthgrit
When we wrap up, if you want to work something out for Cryx for your Ret, I still have it... tho if you could pack a bit better, or make sure it's in a box customs wouldn't fk with, perhaps we can work something out there.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:18 am
by Bonzii
Sending that tracking number would be really appreciated as its still not here yet.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:48 am
by truthgrit
it's the same as the one you sent me. It's a return to sender.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:33 am
by Bonzii
That tracking number does not show any results other than delivered to you.

At this point you're responsible for my Menoth items as they were last in your care and needed to be safely returned to me if you choose not to accept them. I have been excessively patient with this, I have tried to fix the problem by offering various methods of either getting you the parts to repair the models that customs broke, or wholly replacing models that arrived damage, and/or being willing to alter the trade agreement.

I am reaching the end of my patience in this matter.

I will need to file a Bad Trader Report if you are unable to conclude this matter by the end of the week.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:38 am
by truthgrit
I have stayed in constant communication with you this entire process. 
While indeed you have been patient, it's also you're fault we were in this situation in the first place. 
If it wasn't for your packaging standards the items would of arrived in perfect shape, and you would of had the Cryx items we originally dealt for. 
You said it was customs fault, that they opened the package, yet there was no sign of that, when I asked the Post office, they said it was VERY unlikely that, that happened. 
If there was damage it was either prior to shipping, or do to packing. 
I've also spoke with multiple mods on the board here that said it would be unlikely that occurred. 

So while you are reaching the end of your patience in this matter, I'm not sure threatening me does anything to help the situation.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:41 am
by truthgrit
The customs number from the original box IS the customs number now, it was shipped 'return to sender'.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:00 am
by Bonzii
You have not provided me with sufficient evidence of all the items you were claiming were damaged. I asked for photos and only received a couple that did not show everything. I specifically asked for photos of the external packaging, customs puts labels on things they inspect, I did not receive a photo of this. 

I sent two packages out at the same time, one to you, and the other one to someone really close to you. Both packages had followed the same route and have time stamps on the tracking info that show this. They traveled together until they hit customs, yours spent twice as long in customs as his did.

You have claimed to returned the items, but I have no way to verify you have done so. They could show up, but really should have done so by now as you claimed to have sent them back somewhere around the 11th to 13th of February, its now March 3rd. I will continue to be patient till the end of the week, so March 6th and hope they show up. That gives you till then to ask USPS how this item gets tracked. 

I am sorry, I don't want to file a BTR if I don't have to, but you haven't given me proof of your claim, and my stuff isn't back. This from my point of view very well could be theft and or fraud. How am I to know? If you can prove where the items are, then not your fault if its just a delay in shipping, but at this point I really need to see some proof.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:09 am
by truthgrit
Theft or fraud? I have a pretty decent name on this board, and have been around for quite a few years. If you look, I have zero backout/badtrader and actually perfect feedback. Nothing even questionable. I'm not saying this proves nothing could happen, but what I am saying is perhaps there's a delay on the package returning to you. 
I have no need to steal approx. $250 worth of models, and in turn ruin my credentials here. 

I have multiple pics, including pics of the packaging. If you asked for that, I may have missed that request, I can send that over to you as well if you'd like for piece of mind. 
The package was two battle boxes with stuff in clam shells(which I'm guessing you packed all of this as it was PP packaging). It had green tape that stretched on each portion of both boxes
completely covering the packages. This must of been placed on by you as it was also what held both packages together. There was no sign that those pieces of tape had been cut or removed. 

So, I'm not saying you purposely bent/broke any of these pieces, but what I am saying is perhaps they were packed no tightly enough and the shipping caused damage. 
I personally didn't want to fix all the items. Perhaps that's an a**hole move by me, but I didn't want to have to do that. 

I'll speak with the USPS but I'm guessing they are not going to say much, the package if I remember correctly was shipped on the 14th as that was V-Day. It regularly takes mail 2 weeks or so to reach Canada.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:44 am
by Bonzii
Joined: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:19 pm
thats one year, not years, unless your using multiple accounts. 
And all of your trades have been very recent, sept/oct is when you started trading in frequency, there are only a couple trades before that.


You have outright lied to me several times during this transaction, provable completely by your own words. Read through our conversation and you will see that.

Right now, I just want my stuff back so I can fix it and move on, and never deal with you again. I am shocked you sent a request offering to trade for my ret army, that makes no sense to me whatsoever! Why would you offer to trade with someone you had trouble with? Because if I had packaged badly why would you risk trying to make a second deal? Maybe its because "hey, this guy believes his menoth stuff is coming back to him and he really wants that cryx stuff, maybe we can get him to send that ret army too" of course this is speculative fiction, but maybe its accurate, I don't know for sure! And since you never provided proof of damage that you claimed... you could be just trying to screw me here, the only pics that I was given showing damage is of two cheap models. For all I know you broke the two cheap ones and sent me pics of them, but since I can't prove that, its more speculative fiction and not an accusation, I only make accusations that I can prove. I have written this paragraph so you can see how this could look to me, while it feels to me that I am being taken advantage of I have given you the benefit of the doubt this whole time in hopes of recovering something from this and not taking a total loss.

Either way, we are never trading with each other again. Lets resolve this so we can both just part ways.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:39 pm
by truthgrit
Sounds good to me.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:42 pm
by truthgrit
Just wondering, what did you feel I 'lied' about to you exactly here?

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:35 pm
by Bonzii
Here are two good examples, in the first one on the 26th of Jan. you tell me "All good, will be out tomorrow", on the 29th you start telling me about broken models. Therefore you lied about the menoth items arriving in good condition, and you lied about when you would be shipping, because according to the message you sent me on the 26th, the cryx stuff was supposed to be sent away on the 27th. In the second example below the Xs on jan 30th you tell me "Ok, I will go through everything after work." I patiently wait until the 3rd of february where I send you a message asking for an update and then I get back a "K, going through it a bit more now... " so again you have lied to me about when you are going to do something. And there are others, I quickly skimmed to find these ones.
Another lie is where you say " I have a pretty decent name on this board, and have been around for quite a few years." note the plural on years, you haven't been on here for years unless you're multiaccounting, your join date is: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:19 pm and like I said earlier you only started trading in frequency back in sept/oct of 2014. But in case "years" is something you claim is subjective, the third example on this message is what you said on feb 3rd, "in what from my history of three years being here would display that? ".



Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:46 am
by truthgrit

All good, will be out tomorrow

Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:43 am
by truthgrit

Hey man, not to be an asshat or anything here, but there are quite a few problems now that I'm individually going through the models. 
The way you packed them has lead to many of the models with spears/halbreds and weapons of that nature to be so far bent than when i've moved them back they are at the point of breaking.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:23 pm
by truthgrit

Ok, I will go through everything after work. Im sure we can figure out something. The problem is, we are a reseller group. So we resell a lot of the stuff we get. 
I have a friend who might be able to do some work on them tho.

Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:01 pm
by Bonzii

What was the condition of the rest of the models I sent?

Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:56 pm
by truthgrit

K, going through it a bit more now... 
There are some issues, there are 3 Temple Flame Guard who have majorly bent spears. 1 is completely broke off. 
Almost every single one of the choirs top staff pieces are broke off. 

If customs did do this to your item, they really screwed this package. This is going to be frustrating to replace.

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Re: H: Menoth W: Cryx, or possibly another Warmahordes army
Sent: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:39 pm
by truthgrit

When PP ships in a clam shell it's because the model isn't built, so the weapons can't bend. When the model is built and in a few cases shoved into a spot it doesn't fit(Tristen) it can cause this kind of problem. 
Why would I take advantage of you, and in what from my history of three years being here would display that?

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:49 pm
by truthgrit
So you're using a few twists here... 

I explained what happened with the items, and why I thought we were all good, until I could open them. 
I said "all good" as the package arrived with no damage to it. 

My apology "Year". I have only been on here for a YEAR, not years, 
I confused my bartertown trading with my ebay selling... 
http://www.ebay.com/usr/sara23loca
and my dakkadakka.com trading form. 
You're right, i've only been here for slightly over a year. 


In the end, there was no trickery. No ill-will from my part. While responses may have been slightly slow at one point, that's all that's been done poorly here. 
Message me when you have the items, or when you feel you'd like to file a BTR so I can respond to it.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:00 pm
by Bonzii
No, not twists, lies! Telling an inaccurate or false statement is lying. Look it up.

As far as it goes, I just want my stuff back. (I would have preferred the cryx stuff, or even a partial trade of cryx stuff, but whatever!) I hope the Menoth items do show up soon, because I really don't want to file a BTR, those things look like a whole lot of work.
I don't know why tracking doesn't work on the return to sender item.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:03 pm
by truthgrit
I'll speak with the Post Office today when I drop my other shipments. 
I'll get back to you this evening.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:17 pm
by truthgrit
It will not have to escalate to a BTR if you'd like. 
If for some reason you do not receive your models back within the next few days or so, we will mail you 50pts of Cryx out of my pocket.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:20 am
by truthgrit
I stopped to ship out our orders/trades this week I spoke with the station manager, they dug up the info on the item and figured out the problem why you haven't received yet. 
When I originally shipped it out I shipped as 'return to sender', and the clerk allowed me to do so, however it was stopped because the item had been opened and re-wrapped so couldn't leave Milwaukee. 
I had to pay for a new shipping label on it, LC700133655US. 
I'm SURE you wouldn't believe me, so I asked if the station manager could provide me with something in writing that said this,(I explained it as an ebay sale that was being returned instead 
of attempting to explain miniature model trading/selling) and he can if you need. I can have it faxed/sent to you if you feel the need to see it in the post officers own words the reason for the delay.


That all said, it is on it's way and you can track it by that info.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:27 am
by Bonzii
When did they say it is expected to arrive? 

You didn't know that you can't just retape a package up and dump it in the mail? You sell things on ebay and bartertown all the time and just learned this now? 

We can figure out the resolution when this package you sent last night gets to me, If it gets to me....
truthgrit wrote:It will not have to escalate to a BTR if you'd like. 
If for some reason you do not receive your models back within the next few days or so, we will mail you 50pts of Cryx out of my pocket.


This has wasted a lot of my time.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:54 am
by truthgrit
It wasted my money, nearly $25 for literally nothing. 

I didn't just 'retape a package and dump it in the mail'. I want to the post office directly and went through the postal worker. 

There's not much resolution past this, your models will be there soon.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:42 pm
by Bonzii
I made multiple offers to make this right, you turned down all of them. 

I am also out shipping to send stuff down there to you.

You wasted 2 months figuring out something that could have been resolved in 2 days.

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:50 pm
by Bonzii
Sara Wrobleski, you owe me compensation for damaged items and lost time. I will be filling out a BTR in 48hrs.

Please note how on Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:33 am I stated: 
"At this point you're responsible for my Menoth items as they were last in your care and needed to be safely returned to me if you choose not to accept them."

You sent me pictures of items while they were in your care, they needed to be returned in at least that condition. I made a video of the Menoth items being unboxed, you didn't even bother to bag the items to make sure pieces wouldn't fall out during shipping. My Canada Post delivery agent was quite surprised at the exterior damage to the package itself, and stated there is no way that USPS or Canada post would have done that during shipping, he also carried on to tell me what typical damage from shipping through the post would look like. I also don't see how its possible for the exterior package to arrive in a condition at your place that you would say "all good" upon receiving it, if it was in anywhere near the condition that it came back to me in. This leads me to believe that on march 3rd at the mention of a BTR you very quickly tossed all the menoth items into the box, proceeded to inflict as much damage upon it by shaking and/or throwing it against the walls out of spite that you were not able to carry out your fraud that you intended, before quickly rushing down to the post office and mailing the item back to Canada. This is my theory and I am more than fine with letting the community decide should you so choose.

You may send me compensation in the form of cryx miniatures or cash. Cash total will be $400
Or you may send me the following list of cryx miniature models: (That you should have in stock since its your current listing that you only want $300 for)

Goreshade Lord of Ruin
Goreshade the Bastard(2014)
Warwitch Deneghra
Wraithwitch Deneghra
Pirate Queen Skarre
Skarre, Queen of Broken Coast

Deathjack
Kraken
Ripjaw x2
Defiler x2
Stalker

Bane Thralls +UA(plastic)
Bane Riders
Bile Thralls (full) + Skarlock
Mechanithralls (full)
Blood Witches + Hag
Sat. Raiders (full) + Sea Witch
Blackbanes Ghost Raiders(full)
Withershadow Combine

Machine Wraith
Raider Captain
Warwitch Siren
Tartarus
Darragh Wrathe
Aiakos
Skarlock



My Shipping address: (in case you can't find it)

Steven K
(address Redacted)

Make sure to send me the tracking number ASAP this time.

Thanks
Steven K

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:46 pm
by truthgrit
What is this in short form?

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Re: [H] Ret Army [W] Army Swap
Sent: Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:47 pm
by truthgrit
Never mind, completely read it, please fill out a report. 

I will not do anything more. I have photos of the item reboxed, so we can compare
"Cryx is simply misunderstood by most of the rest of Immorean, it does not wish to expand or conquer the world, its goal is to simply heal a dragons broken heart."

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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by Bonzii » Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:37 pm

And since Jason/Sara has already removed info from facebook tying them together, here is one of the screenshots of her facebook that I took last week.
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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by Bonzii » Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:43 pm

And for everyone that doesn't know who Jason Tick(nor) is, he is line number one in the hall of shame.

Link:
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=17003
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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by truthgrit » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:22 pm

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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by truthgrit » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:24 pm

Items were received in terrible condition. I documented pics with the items. I showed damage to multiple items, and the terrible way in which they were packed.
He asked to replace the items, with parts; I didn't want to, so instead I shipped the items back to him.

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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by Ollieb » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:52 pm

Then all you need to do is fulfill your responsibility to get them back if you wish to nullify the trade. I do wonder why you didn't have him ship to your name instead of you latest squeeze. Were you afraid he would recall that you are a confirmed, known scammer?

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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by truthgrit » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:57 pm

All items were shipped back asap, in fact in the same packaging with a bit of extra foam to make sure the contents did not break.
You're correct, I did fulfill my responsibility, which makes it strange that a BTR was opened.
I'm not sure what you mean at the end there.

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Post by Bonzii » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:01 am

your reply is to post pics of models that I originally thought were damaged by customs.... and which I now believe were probably damaged by you in order to scam me.
Okay, whatever Jason.
Here is a pic of Blessing of Vengeance as he arrived, this pic is taken out of the video I made while unboxing.
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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by truthgrit » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:06 am

[quote="Bonzii"]your reply is to post pics of models that I originally thought were damaged by customs.... and which I now believe were probably damaged by you in order to scam me.
Okay, whatever Jason.
Here is a pic of Blessing of Vengeance as he arrived, this pic is taken out of the video I made while unboxing.


If you notice, according to your own posting, you attempted to keep the Menoth, and gain $400 as well because supposedly the items being damaged by me...

yet I was the one attempting to rip someone off here?

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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by Bonzii » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:24 am

The items were not sent back until I threatened to file a BTR.

Then suddenly you found the items at the post office. This is highly suspicious, especially since someone who trades as much as you should know that you can't send an opened package back as "return to sender".

I asked for compensation because you damaged my stuff and wasted my time. At this point I doubt that I will/would receive any compensation from you. You also flat out said in your last message to me " please fill out a report." As I don't think you're going to provide any compensation, I will happily fill out the Bad Trader Report and expose you to the community as the con artist you are.

You are Jason Tick(nor) after all, If I am correct you are banned from this site?
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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by truthgrit » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:33 am

I asked for the video, you never supplied it.
I asked for the packaging pics, you never supplied it.
You just expected to receive something for free, for the garbage you sent because you threatened a BTR.
Nothing of yours was damaged once it was received by me. You packaged it poorly, and they broke on the way because of it.

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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by s_o_r_r_o_w » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:36 am

Let's have a firm response on this, Truthgrit:

What is your actual, real name? Please be prepared to confirm this with work and phone contact info, sent to the staff privately.
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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by Ollieb » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:49 am

truthgrit wrote:All items were shipped back asap, in fact in the same packaging with a bit of extra foam to make sure the contents did not break.
You're correct, I did fulfill my responsibility, which makes it strange that a BTR was opened.
I'm not sure what you mean at the end there.

What I meant was fairly clear but I will ask again

1. Why did,you have the OP ship to your significant other instead of you? Or are you Sara

2. If you aren't Sara were you afraid that if you had it shipped to your name the OP would recognize your name as Jason Ticknor who leads the Scammer Hall of Shame?

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Re: BTR: Truthgrit, Jason Ticknor, Jason Tick, Sara Wroble(W

Post by s_o_r_r_o_w » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:50 am

Bonzii:

Please state the current status of what you are actually MISSING and/or DAMAGED.

I'd like to see the same from Truthgrit.
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